FBI Raid On Trump's Mar-A-Lago Had No Valid Legal Basis

[Pete7469]

Your pictures are NOT from the search warrant silly one!

The Search warrant in August '22 was DONE IN DAYLIGHT HOURS, from around 10am to 6pm, when they left.....

Your pictures are not from this search, they are nighttime or dawn or dusk. The search and seizure was bright, full daylight ours.

You were punked, in to believing a LIE.

You're punked into believing a potato got 81 million legit votes....

 

[Nostra]

correct, she had them on harddrives of her computer and emails. We get that your brains leaked out your head.

If they did leak out, it would only take one end of a Q-Tip to clean it up.

 

[Magnus]

The Wall Street Journal lays out the reasoning as to why the FBI raid was illegal.

The Presidential Record Act (PRA) of 1978 (Link) grants former presidents complete access to all records created under their admin.

"The PRA explicitly guarantees a former president continuing access to his papers. Those papers must ultimately be made public, but in the meantime—unlike with all other government documents, which are available 24/7 to currently serving executive-branch officials—the PRA establishes restrictions on access to a former president’s records, including a five-year restriction on access applicable to everyone (including the sitting president, absent a showing of need), which can be extended until the records have been properly reviewed and processed. Before leaving office, a president can restrict access to certain materials for up to 12 years.

The only exceptions are for National Archives personnel working on the materials, judicial process, the incumbent president and Congress (in cases of established need) and the former president himself. PRA section 2205(3) specifically commands that “the Presidential records of a former President shall be available to such former President or the former President’s designated representative,” regardless of any of these restrictions.

Nothing in the PRA suggests that the former president’s physical custody of his records can be considered unlawful under the statutes on which the Mar-a-Lago warrant is based. Yet the statute’s text makes clear that Congress considered how certain criminal-law provisions would interact with the PRA: It provides that the archivist is not to make materials available to the former president’s designated representative “if that individual has been convicted of a crime relating to the review, retention, removal, or destruction of records of the Archives.”

In making a former president’s records available to him, the PRA doesn’t distinguish between materials that are and aren’t classified."

Opinion | The Trump Warrant Had No Legal Basis

A former president’s rights under the Presidential Records Act trump the statutes the FBI cited to justify the Mar-a-Lago raid.

www.wsj.com

Meh. Couple lawyers hoping to drum up business from the usual gullible right wing-nuts.

Opinon column are not from the WSJ. They are just that, opinions.

 

[Independent thinker]

The Wall Street Journal lays out the reasoning as to why the FBI raid was illegal.

The Presidential Record Act (PRA) of 1978 (Link) grants former presidents complete access to all records created under their admin.

"The PRA explicitly guarantees a former president continuing access to his papers. Those papers must ultimately be made public, but in the meantime—unlike with all other government documents, which are available 24/7 to currently serving executive-branch officials—the PRA establishes restrictions on access to a former president’s records, including a five-year restriction on access applicable to everyone (including the sitting president, absent a showing of need), which can be extended until the records have been properly reviewed and processed. Before leaving office, a president can restrict access to certain materials for up to 12 years.

The only exceptions are for National Archives personnel working on the materials, judicial process, the incumbent president and Congress (in cases of established need) and the former president himself. PRA section 2205(3) specifically commands that “the Presidential records of a former President shall be available to such former President or the former President’s designated representative,” regardless of any of these restrictions.

Nothing in the PRA suggests that the former president’s physical custody of his records can be considered unlawful under the statutes on which the Mar-a-Lago warrant is based. Yet the statute’s text makes clear that Congress considered how certain criminal-law provisions would interact with the PRA: It provides that the archivist is not to make materials available to the former president’s designated representative “if that individual has been convicted of a crime relating to the review, retention, removal, or destruction of records of the Archives.”

In making a former president’s records available to him, the PRA doesn’t distinguish between materials that are and aren’t classified."

Opinion | The Trump Warrant Had No Legal Basis

A former president’s rights under the Presidential Records Act trump the statutes the FBI cited to justify the Mar-a-Lago raid.

www.wsj.com

Just another democrat abuse of power, finding someone they don't like and investigating that person nonstop until they find something they can get that person with. That is not the way of our country, but it is the way of the democrats.

 

[Magnus]

The Wall Street Journal lays out the reasoning as to why the FBI raid was illegal.

The Presidential Record Act (PRA) of 1978 (Link) grants former presidents complete access to all records created under their admin.

"The PRA explicitly guarantees a former president continuing access to his papers. Those papers must ultimately be made public, but in the meantime—unlike with all other government documents, which are available 24/7 to currently serving executive-branch officials—the PRA establishes restrictions on access to a former president’s records, including a five-year restriction on access applicable to everyone (including the sitting president, absent a showing of need), which can be extended until the records have been properly reviewed and processed. Before leaving office, a president can restrict access to certain materials for up to 12 years.

The only exceptions are for National Archives personnel working on the materials, judicial process, the incumbent president and Congress (in cases of established need) and the former president himself. PRA section 2205(3) specifically commands that “the Presidential records of a former President shall be available to such former President or the former President’s designated representative,” regardless of any of these restrictions.

Nothing in the PRA suggests that the former president’s physical custody of his records can be considered unlawful under the statutes on which the Mar-a-Lago warrant is based. Yet the statute’s text makes clear that Congress considered how certain criminal-law provisions would interact with the PRA: It provides that the archivist is not to make materials available to the former president’s designated representative “if that individual has been convicted of a crime relating to the review, retention, removal, or destruction of records of the Archives.”

In making a former president’s records available to him, the PRA doesn’t distinguish between materials that are and aren’t classified."

Opinion | The Trump Warrant Had No Legal Basis

A former president’s rights under the Presidential Records Act trump the statutes the FBI cited to justify the Mar-a-Lago raid.

www.wsj.com

Did you even read the PRA that you linked to? If you had, you would have found this:

• Establishes that Presidential records automatically transfer into the legal custody of the Archivist as soon as the President leaves office.

What part of the above, did you not get?

 

[Pete7469]

ignorance of a law isn't a defense.

Bed wetters are deliberately ignorant of nearly every issue.

They believe you have to be a university credited biologist to know what 3 year olds discover playing "doctor".

 

[Care4all]

You know this how?

Did Rachel Madcow tell you?

Figured she was still combing through Trump's ILLEGALLY leaked 1995 Tax Return looking for donations to the klan or some more dumb shit.


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All of Trump's administration including previous chief of staffs, heads of Homeland security etc....17 of them, came out and said Trump's made up excuse, is HOGWASH.... they never heard of this so called policy.

AND, NONE OF THE CLASSIFIED STATUS WAS CHANGED AND DECLASSIFIED THROUGH MARKINGS IN THE SYSTEM, NOR ANY ORDER FROM TRUMP TO BE DECLASSIFIED HAS BEEN FOUND, ANYWHERE.

When something is declassified, it is done so in every Govt agency, so all government agencies under a trump know what is classified or not.

You do realize if Trump declassified all of the top secret info, that he claims, then you and i, and all foreign enemies can have easy peasy access....

 

[Pete7469]

All of Trump's administration including previous chief of staffs, heads of Homeland security etc....17 of them, came out and said Trump's made up excuse, is HOGWASH.... they never heard of this so called policy.

AND, NONE OF THE CLASSIFIED STATUS WAS CHANGED AND DECLASSIFIED THROUGH MARKINGS IN THE SYSTEM, NOR ANY ORDER FROM TRUMP TO BE DECLASSIFIED HAS BEEN FOUND, ANYWHERE.

When something is declassified, it is done so in every gift agency, so all government agencies under a trump know what is classified or not.

You do realize if Trump declassified all of the top secret info, that he claims, then you and i, and all foreign enemies can have easy peasy access....

Obama Allowed to Take WH Documents Home Unlike Trump?

Earlier this week, the FBI executed an unprecedented search warrant on Trump’s Mar-a-Lago home in Palm Beach, Florida. It’s unclear what the FBI was looking for, but several reports lin…

truenews.media

Obama admin spent $36M on lawsuits to keep info secret

A new analysis says the administration that much in its final year defending its refusal to turn over federal records under FOIA

www.cbsnews.com

The contorted Presidential Records Act is a bipartisan scam to hide White House mischief

Former presidents should forfeit any right to confidentiality of their papers on the day they sign a (very lucrative) contract to write a memoir.

www.usatoday.com

Obama kept classified nuclear documents too – Trump

Former US President Barack Obama kept classified documents and wasn’t raided, his successor, Donald Trump, has complained

www.rt.com

As Obama Moves Out of the White House, People Noticed His Collection of "Fine Art"

Wow! Do you see it?!?!

thepoliticalinsider.com

Obama's 'wholesale destruction' of tens of thousands of National Archive Records - Geller Report

He had plenty of experience. His birth certificate, student loan application, college records, passport to Pakistan etc. Criminals always try to cover up their crimes, especially experienced ones.

gellerreport.com

BTW... when do we get back the furniture hitlary stole from the WH in 2000? She was just so sure she was bringing it back right?

Still a little bitter about that aren't you?


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[Care4all]

They weren't classified.

Yes, they were....some, TOP SECRET SCI the highest compartmental national security documents, were retrieved from Mara Lago closets and storage rooms, in this search.

 

[struth]

Yes, they were....some, TOP SECRET SCI the highest compartmental national security documents, were retrieved from Mara Lago closets and storage rooms, in this search.

maybe xiden reclassified them…but they were declassified when they left the white house

 

[Care4all]

Obama Allowed to Take WH Documents Home Unlike Trump?

Earlier this week, the FBI executed an unprecedented search warrant on Trump’s Mar-a-Lago home in Palm Beach, Florida. It’s unclear what the FBI was looking for, but several reports lin…

truenews.media

Obama admin spent $36M on lawsuits to keep info secret

A new analysis says the administration that much in its final year defending its refusal to turn over federal records under FOIA

www.cbsnews.com

The contorted Presidential Records Act is a bipartisan scam to hide White House mischief

Former presidents should forfeit any right to confidentiality of their papers on the day they sign a (very lucrative) contract to write a memoir.

www.usatoday.com

Obama kept classified nuclear documents too – Trump

Former US President Barack Obama kept classified documents and wasn’t raided, his successor, Donald Trump, has complained

www.rt.com

As Obama Moves Out of the White House, People Noticed His Collection of "Fine Art"

Wow! Do you see it?!?!

thepoliticalinsider.com

Obama's 'wholesale destruction' of tens of thousands of National Archive Records - Geller Report

He had plenty of experience. His birth certificate, student loan application, college records, passport to Pakistan etc. Criminals always try to cover up their crimes, especially experienced ones.

gellerreport.com

BTW... when do we get back the furniture hitlary stole from the WH in 2000? She was just so sure she was bringing it back right?

Still a little bitter about that aren't you?


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All hogwash again. And Obama's situation was not remotely close, to Trump's situation.

All previous presidents, when questioned by the National Archives or whomever on furniture, immediately returned the documents or furniture to the govt, THEN worked out deals to get some of it back by paying for it with the case of furniture.

Trump did not return anything immediately when asked.

 

[Lesh]

No, it's been widely reported that Xiden signed off on it...and has been caught lying that he didn't know anything about it

What did Biden ‘really’ know about the drive to raid Mar-a-Lago?

“President Biden defers to my determination” on respecting Trump’s claims of executive privilege in retaining various documents — and that National Archivist had “decided not to honor” those claims…

nypost.com

Biden called in FBI to look at first haul of classified Trump documents

The Biden administration authorized the FBI to scrutinize 15 boxes containing classified information that the National Archives retrieved from Mar-a-Lago earlier this year.

nypost.com

Neither of your links support your claims

 

[struth]

All hogwash again. And Obama's situation was not remotely close, to Trump's situation.

All previous presidents, when questioned by the National Archer VES or whomever or n furniture, immediately returned the documents or furniture to the govt, THE worked out deals to get some of it back by paying for it with the case of furniture.

Trump did not return anything immediately when asked.

i’m that’s what trump was actively doing when the demafasict conducted their unprecedented political raid

 

[struth]

Neither of your links support your claims

haha then you aren’t reading them

 

[Pete7469]

All hogwash again. And Obama's situation was not remotely close, to Trump's situation.

All previous presidents, when questioned by the National Archives or whomever on furniture, immediately returned the documents or furniture to the govt, THEN worked out deals to get some of it back by paying for it with the case of furniture.

Trump did not return anything immediately when asked.

You're desperate to believe that aren't you?

I'd just like the WH furniture back from hitlary since she won't be going back there herself.

I wonder if Monica ever got that blue dress back or is it still in Epstein's closet?

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[Care4all]

maybe xiden reclassified them…but they were declassified when they left the white house

If that were done, then there would be a record for it, silly one!

 

[struth]

If that were done, then there would be a record for it, silly one!

there is no requirement. the president can at will

 

[Care4all]

They gave a copy to Care4all and she's here parroting all that insipid drivel just like always.

It's sort of cute in a sad way.

Must be that avatar of Lucy Lawless....



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Nope! I just read the news...I'm an avid reader, and obsessive researcher.... Boring stuff to most, but I enjoy it!

 

[Lesh]

haha then you aren’t reading them

Actually I did.

Nowhere does it say he authorized or even had advance knowledge of the raid.

It says he knew about the issue and enabled the investigation.

That’s not news. “I” new about the issue … it’s been public knowledge for almost two years. That he enabled the investigation is not news either

The raid itself was not anything he knew about or controlled

 

[Lesh]

there is no requirement. the president can at will

If a tree falls in the forest does it make a noise? Yes… unless the tree is nowhere to be found.

If no one witnessed Trump declassifying documents… it didn’t happen