FBI doubted probable cause for Mar-a-Lago raid but pushed forward amid pressure from Biden DOJ, emails reveal

[martybegan]

No Trump broke the law 34 times.
Keep up with the decision from the US court of appeals.

Nope. 34 made up bullshit felonies.

 

[martybegan]

Of course not, when have you ever cared about facts or making any ******* sense?

"facts"

facts like women having penises?

 

[postman]

While a Senator and VP. They can only see classified docs in a secure SCIFF, so he had to intentionally steal them.

There is no other explanation.

As VP, like the President, they can look at Top Secret documentation in their office. They are provided with secure storage for such documents.

 

[postman]

You're not following.

The charge in Trumps indictment of which Biden is also guilty does not exist.

So your proclamation that, if Trump broke the law, so did Biden, was wrong and baseless.

But you go ahead and show us the charge in Trump's indictment of which Biden is also guilty.

See you in never, because it isn't there.

They keep leaving out the part where it requires "intent to retain".

Neither Biden nor Pence tried to hold onto their classified materials. They were turned over, as soon as they were discovered.
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[martybegan]

As VP, like the President, they can look at Top Secret documentation in their office. They are provided with secure storage for such documents.

Not the same. Any documents created under the President are created by said President, as the elected executive.

The VP has ZERO executive powers while VP.

 

[Delldude]

The ones he was legally allowed to have at home, since he was the sitting president.

Media reports say they were from the Obama administration.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Media reports say they were from the Obama administration.

They could have been from the Lincoln administration.

Biden was the sitting president.

 

[Delldude]

Biden was the sitting president.

What matters is he broke the law before he was the shitting president.

 

[postman]

FBI did not believe it had probable cause to raid Mar-a-Lago for classified documents, bombshell files show

The FBI did not believe agents had probable cause to execute a search warrant at President Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate, according to internal records released Tuesday by Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-…

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If that's the previously referenced one, you didn't bother going past the false headline.
None of the memos in the PDF file dispute the probable cause for the search warrant.
Their arguments were with the timing of the search.
Keeping the search secret, while scheduling it while Trump wouldn't be there, and how to handle Walt Nauta who was going from informant to suspect, because he was involved in moving the boxes around, requiring up to date location information for the search warrant.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

What matters is he broke the law before he was the shitting president.

No, what matters is being able to prove that he broke the law.

Which you cannot do. The docs were found while he was sitting president, in 2022.

Furthermore, the criminal charges require willful intent. You would not and could not prove both that Biden remembered the docs were there between 2017 and 2021 and that he also willfully retained them. In fact, you couldn't even prove he possessed them, during that time period.

And there is the fact that he gave them up immediately, when asked. Good luck convincing a jury he had criminal intent to retain them and hide them, when he cooperated and gave them up immediately.

But hey, if you want to go over the Hur report again like it's the first time you have ever heard of it, knock yourself out.

 

[postman]

Lies.

The gov visited MAL that spring, reviewed what he had, and then just asked him to provide an additional lock on where they were kept, which he did.

That was pending the subpoena they issued to Trump and his lawyers, to turn the classified documents over to the National Archives, which they only partially did, while Trump had his lawyers sign off, saying there were no more classified documents at Mar-a-lago.

Which was a lie of course.

Knowing Trump was willfully retaining classified documents. They got a search warrant to find and seize them.

Which is why they found all those classified documents, that Trump claimed he turned over.

 

[Delldude]

None of the memos in the PDF file dispute the probable cause for the search warrant.

An FBI official even noted that agents had spent six “counterproductive” weeks trying to establish they had grounds for a search warrant but they were eventually overruled by the DOJ, with one top official grouching that he “frankly [didn’t] give a damn about the optics.”
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The memo on probable cause and another series of emails exchanged just one week before the Aug. 8, 2022, raid of the former president’s Palm Beach, Fla., residence show that the FBI was looking for “a second path” on the search warrant.

Knowing Trump was willfully retaining classified documents. They got a search warrant to find and seize them.

Interviews with witnesses had also not yielded any proof that sensitive intelligence files remained hidden at the former president’s estate since a trove of them was returned on June 3, 2022.

 

[postman]

Nope. 34 made up bullshit felonies.

That the US Court of Appeals said were legitimate.

 

[postman]

"facts"

facts like women having penises?

Fact like tariffs are a tax on Americans.

 

[Delldude]

No, what matters is being able to prove that he broke the law.

Which you cannot do. The docs were found while he was sitting president, in 2022.

Furthermore, the criminal charges require willful intent. You would not and could not prove both that Biden remembered the docs were there between 2017 and 2021 and that he also willfully retained them. In fact, you couldn't even prove he possessed them, during that time period.

And there is the fact that he gave them up immediately, when asked. Good luck convincing a jury he had criminal intent to retain them and hide them, when he cooperated and gave them up immediately.

But hey, if you want to go over the Hur report again like it's the first time you have ever heard of it, knock yourself out.

'Willfully and knowingly'

"However, he was a nice old man who wasn't playing with a full deck'.

 

[Delldude]

That the US Court of Appeals said were legitimate.

Funny, it's still in the appeal process.

 

[postman]

What matters is he broke the law before he was the shitting president.

You mean like Trump and his 34 felonies?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Willfully and knowingly'

Yep, you would fail on that part, as detailed in the report and explained directly to you in this thread, multiple times.

However, he was a nice old man who wasn't playing with a full deck'.

Found buried in the report you never read.

In the very first paragraph of the very first page, the report states there was not enough evidence to convict.

 

[postman]

And there is the fact that he gave them up immediately, when asked. Good luck convincing a jury he had criminal intent to retain them and hide them, when he cooperated and gave them up immediately.

The same with Mike Pence. Which is why neither of them faced any criminal charges.

Compared to Trump who played hide and go seek with his classified documents.

Remember his co-conspirator Walt Nauta

Walt Nauta, has entered a not guilty plea to charges that he helped the former president hide classified documents from federal authorities.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Compared to Trump who played hide and go seek with his classified documents.

And who to investigators and the court and who defied court orders.