Father Tells his Obamacare Horror Story

[Dekster]

I don't see how the ACA changed anything with networks. Participating providers in network or out of network has been a thing my whole adult life.

 

[sparky]

Nobody is cutting up children.

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~S~

 

[JoeB131]

~S~

You mean a trans girl realized she can get more attention from the bible thumpers?

She didn't get bottom surgery, those are never performed on minors.

 

[sparky]

We pay half in tax per month what Americans pay in health insurance.

and it sounds like you get what you pay for Caveman.........~S~

 

[JoeB131]

and it sounds like you get what you pay for Caveman.........~S~

the UK has a higher life expectancy than the US, a lower infant mortality rate, and very few personal bankruptcies are linked to Medical crisis.

Seems like they are getting a lot more value per Pound than we get per Dollar.

 

[Seymour Flops]

If you met HER on the street, you'd never know she was assigned male at birth.

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Would you have sex with "her," even if "she" still has a penis?

 

[Greenbeard]

I don't see how the ACA changed anything with networks. Participating providers in network or out of network has been a thing my whole adult life.

The ACA just made lots of right wingers realize they hate private insurance. Now half of them sound like some amalgam of Luigi Mangione and Bernie Sanders.

 

[JoeB131]

Would you have sex with "her," even if "she" still has a penis?

Well, if she did, I wouldn't be able to have sex with her.

Also, I'm a happily married man, so I wouldn't have sex with anyone other than Mrs. B131.

The ACA just made lots of right wingers realize they hate private insurance. Now half of them sound like some amalgam of Luigi Mangione and Bernie Sanders.

And that's the rub.

They were all for this private sector scheme when the Heritage Foundation came up with it and Mitt Romney Implemented it.

But then the Black Guy Did It, and they lost their shit.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Well, if she did, I wouldn't be able to have sex with her.

Because he is not a woman, no matter how good his makeup

They were all for this private sector scheme when the Heritage Foundation came up with it and Mitt Romney Implemented it.

But then the Black Guy Did It, and they lost their shit.

Okay, and now what?

We have to keep this failed scheme forever because Mitt Romney once had another scheme? Otherwise it's racist? That's the level you debate on?

 

[JoeB131]

Because he is not a woman, no matter how good his makeup

Except you wouldn't know that unless you checked under the hood, and that is only if she didn't have the bottom surgery.

Okay, and now what?

We have to keep this failed scheme forever because Mitt Romney once had another scheme? Otherwise it's racist? That's the level you debate on?

It did what it was designed to do. It got everyone (or nearly everyone covered), and prevented insurance companies from cheating their customers when treatment was needed.

Now, sure, it can be improved by controlling costs and more carefully regulating Big Health Care. the only question is, do we have the will to do that?

 

[Seymour Flops]

Except you wouldn't know that unless you checked under the hood, and that is only if she didn't have the bottom surgery.

How did you know?

It did what it was designed to do. It got everyone (or nearly everyone covered), and prevented insurance companies from cheating their customers when treatment was needed.

It pumps billions into the pockets of insurance billionaires.

Now, sure, it can be improved by controlling costs and more carefully regulating Big Health Care. the only question is, do we have the will to do that?

No, we dont.

 

[Captain Caveman]

and it sounds like you get what you pay for Caveman.........~S~

Correct, we don't get bankruptcies.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Correct, we don't get bankruptcies.

I'm glad we're admitting that it is about financial difficulties, not people dying without healthcare as they said when they were pushing for Obamacare.

Hypothetical question: a guy chooses not to buy health insurance and instead saves and invests his money for 30 years. Then he develops a very treatable but expensive cancer. Who should pay his medical bills?

 

[JoeB131]

How did you know?

Well, I don't, because I don't care. Not only is she not my wife, she's probably too young for me. I think I have ties that are older than she is.

I suspect that she probably had the bottom surgery because that would make the swimsuit competition awkward if she hadn't.

It pumps billions into the pockets of insurance billionaires.

So do a lot of other questionable procedures. But as long as the insurance, medical, and patients are happy, just not seeing a problem.

No, we dont.

Only because our politicians are owned by Big Insurance and Big Medical.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Well, I don't, because I don't care. Not only is she not my wife, she's probably too young for me. I think I have ties that are older than she is.

If you don't know, what was the point of posting his or her picture?

I suspect that she probably had the bottom surgery because that would make the swimsuit competition awkward if she hadn't.

Why would that be awkward?

Do judges count off if your balls pop out of your one-piece? Are the transphobic?

Didn't bother Lia Thomas any. All of his competitions were swimsuit. The media just made sure not to show his junk bulge. Why couldnt they do the same for pageant contestants?

So do a lot of other questionable procedures. But as long as the insurance, medical, and patients are happy, just not seeing a problem.

Me neither, if you left the kids out of it.

Only because our politicians are owned by Big Insurance and Big Medical.

I said that.

So what makes you doubt what a giveaway the ACA is?

 

[JoeB131]

If you don't know, what was the point of posting his or her picture?

My point was that you'd never be able to tell she was born male by looking at her.

Why would that be awkward?

Do judges count off if your balls pop out of your one-piece? Are the transphobic?

I wouldn't know. So out of curiosity, I decided to look for pics of her in swimsuits.

I guess she is post-op.

Didn't bother Lia Thomas any. All of his competitions were swimsuit. The media just made sure not to show his junk bulge. Why couldnt they do the same for pageant contestants?

Um, because swim meets aren't about ogling women in swimsuits. Beauty Pageants are.

Me neither, if you left the kids out of it.

yet you spend a lot of time hating on transgenders, for some reason.

I said that.

So what makes you doubt what a giveaway the ACA is?

ACA was just Romneycare. The only reason you guys hate it is that you insanely hate Obama.

 

[San Souci]

This and thousand of other stories is why EVERY American should stand in front of Congress and tell them to **** off.

NO GOVERNMENT IN HEALTHCARE is the ONLY acceptable policy.

Absolutely. The Dems should be schooled on Basic economics.

 

[JoeB131]

Absolutely. The Dems should be schooled on Basic economics.

Um, basic economics. Most of the Free World has single payer, and their healthcare metrics beat ours in every category.

 

[Captain Caveman]

I'm glad we're admitting that it is about financial difficulties, not people dying without healthcare as they said when they were pushing for Obamacare.

Hypothetical question: a guy chooses not to buy health insurance and instead saves and invests his money for 30 years. Then he develops a very treatable but expensive cancer. Who should pay his medical bills?

Your life expectancy is lower than the UK, mainly due to the health systems

 

[Seymour Flops]

My point was that you'd never be able to tell she was born male by looking at her.

I got that point and from the numerous photos you are obsessively posting,

Time to answer my question: given that this person can pass for a woman, how did you find out that she was a male?

While you dodge that question, let me explain something. If a male who looks like that goes into the ladies room, no one would notice. Sex changes have happened since the seventies, and there have been no mass protests against transexuals using the bathroom for their "chosen gender."

It is when this guy:

Wants to go in the ladies room that the problem comes up. No man is going to silently and meekly watch that dude go into the ladies room after his wife, daughter or mom. A male who made it to adult age without becoming a man would.

When Lia Thomas undresses withing arms reach of college-age women who are expected - as a condition of participating in a UIL sport - to undress also to show their belief that he isa woman, that is a big problem.

I wouldn't know. So out of curiosity, I decided to look for pics of her in swimsuits.

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I guess she is post-op.

Uh, yeah. Those pictures don't really show that he is post-op, but I'm not going to get into the weeds with you on that. Ask a more experienced trannie chaser what I mean.

If you are right, then you admit that the "bottom surgery" is purely cosmetic. That person will not be able to conceive children, no matter how many times a trannie chaser tries to impregnate "them."

Um, because swim meets aren't about ogling women in swimsuits. Beauty Pageants are.

But if "Lia" Thomas' balls pop out of his swimsuit at a swim meet, that destroys the illusion that the real women swimmers are competing against one of their own. If anyone is really under that illusion.

yet you spend a lot of time hating on transgenders, for some reason.

You are the ones posting pictures and talking obsessively about them. I offered two opinions: I should not be forced to pay for "gender affirming care" for adults, and children with healthy bodies should not be mutilated and hormonalized for a mental issue.

I dont' care if you buy into a healthcare policy that covers "gender Affirming" and other cosmetic surgery. I am sad for an eighteen year old who hates his body so much that he has it surgically altered at the prompting of profit-seeking actors in the transgender industry, but if freedom means anything, it means freedom to make one's own mistakes.

ACA was just Romneycare. The only reason you guys hate it is that you insanely hate Obama.

Dumb argument. Almost as many Republicans hate Romney as hate Obama. More importantly, I hate Romney (in the political sense) so your talk about him means nothing.