Father of Raped Daughter not Allowed to Speak at Loudoun County School Board

[Correll]

would locking him up be a better deterrent than trying to keep him out of the ladies room?

There is no conflict between the two. We, as a society, could easily have maintained the old way of doing things, ie USE THE RIGHT FUCKING BATHROOM, and then if he raped a girl, no matter where or when, we lock him up.


You are envisioning a conflict where there is none.

 

[iceberg]

People stop accusations. People stop themselves from raping. Muslims want to rape, thinking they are pleasing God. They are the people you need to think about. People need to fear God. Muslims cannot do that thinking they are obeying God, when they rape whoever. Jesus judges the living and the dead. He knows what is in the heart. People who don't have God's mind in them, will not know that.

Yea, well aside from all this...

 

[iceberg]

There is no conflict between the two. We, as a society, could easily have maintained the old way of doing things, ie USE THE RIGHT FUCKING BATHROOM, and then if he raped a girl, no matter where or when, we lock him up.


You are envisioning a conflict where there is none.

then separate the arguments. one does not prevent or encourage the other. or show me studies, not emotional rants, that illustrate this.

 

[Correll]

then separate the arguments. one does not prevent or encourage the other. or show me studies, not emotional rants, that illustrate this.

I'm not aware of any studies on it. I've given you my thinking on why it would be a plus in this aspect of the issue.

 

[WEATHER53]

then separate the arguments. one does not prevent or encourage the other. or show me studies, not emotional rants, that illustrate this.

No studies are needed on what is blatantly obvious. It’s along the lines of liberal “prove yourself innocent”
We dont conduct studies on why eating dirt is bad. We just already know it is despite any feelings otherwise. Same thing here

 

[iceberg]

I'm not aware of any studies on it. I've given you my thinking on why it would be a plus in this aspect of the issue.

fair enough.

I see prosecuting them and tossing them in jail as a deterrent I find to be the most effective.

anything else, to me, moves the focus and I think it encourages the crime.

a "what else can we get away with" type scenario.

 

[Correll]

fair enough.

I see prosecuting them and tossing them in jail as a deterrent I find to be the most effective.

anything else, to me, moves the focus and I think it encourages the crime.

a "what else can we get away with" type scenario.

How would , "no boys in the girls room" encourage the crime?

 

[iceberg]

How would , "no boys in the girls room" encourage the crime?

never said it would.

 

[Correll]

never said it would.

Really? Explain this part then.


"and I think it encourages the crime.

a "what else can we get away with" type scenario."

 

[WEATHER53]

Really? Explain this part then.


"and I think it encourages the crime.

a "what else can we get away with" type scenario."

Libbies say you read the words wrong and something about Trump

 

[iceberg]

Really? Explain this part then.


"and I think it encourages the crime.

a "what else can we get away with" type scenario."

I am referring to our overall lack of prosecution attatude.

 

[BlindBoo]

That is because this thread is about a trans loony raping a girl in a high school bathroom.

The idea that crimes should be punished, unless one is a libtard, that is normally assumed.


I have and will talk for days about "punishing crimes".

Here I though it was about her fathers actions both at the school and during the June School Board Meeting that got him arrested.

We know why the Neo-GOP have focused on this case, not for justice for little girls but for the drama.

Hundreds of young students say K-12 schools mishandled their sex assault cases

Federal investigations uncovered schools that failed to meet the most basic legal requirements — like having someone in charge of Title IX.

www.nbcnews.com

"For months, her attacker’s friends tormented her. They called her a “crazy bitch” and a “porn star” on social media. One suggested that they show her “what rape actually is,” according to a lawsuit the Colorado student filed this year against her school district.

In the summer of 2017, the girl, a high school junior referred to as Jane Doe in court records, reported that she’d been sexually assaulted the previous year by a classmate, identified by the pseudonym John Smith. Smith later pleaded guilty to assault in juvenile court, and was placed on probation and required to participate in sex offender therapy. Yet throughout the 2017-18 academic year, his friends made Doe’s life miserable at Glenwood Springs High School, she says in her suit filed in the U.S. District Court of Colorado against the Roaring Fork School District."

Doe’s complaint is one of at least 330 suits filed across the United States since the beginning of 2018 alleging that K-12 public and charter schools failed to protect students from sexual assault and harassment or mishandled incidents that came to light, according to an NBC News count based on court records.

 

[Correll]

I am referring to our overall lack of prosecution attatude.

Instead we see that the people that made the call to let the boy into the girls room, are teh ones that took action to cover up the crime to avoid prosecutions.

This example seems to exactly contradict your prediction.

 

[iceberg]

Instead we see that the people that made the call to let the boy into the girls room, are teh ones that took action to cover up the crime to avoid prosecutions.

This example seems to exactly contradict your prediction.

was he prosecuted?

if no, then this post by you has nothing to do with what I said.

if they covered up the crime, it's a "let's see what we can get away with" to me. again no one prosecuted yet.

throw those who covered it in the prison next door and I'll bet they don't do it again.

 

[Correll]

Here I though it was about her fathers actions both at the school and during the June School Board Meeting that got him arrested.

We know why the Neo-GOP have focused on this case, not for justice for little girls but for the drama.

Hundreds of young students say K-12 schools mishandled their sex assault cases

Federal investigations uncovered schools that failed to meet the most basic legal requirements — like having someone in charge of Title IX.

www.nbcnews.com

"For months, her attacker’s friends tormented her. They called her a “crazy bitch” and a “porn star” on social media. One suggested that they show her “what rape actually is,” according to a lawsuit the Colorado student filed this year against her school district.

In the summer of 2017, the girl, a high school junior referred to as Jane Doe in court records, reported that she’d been sexually assaulted the previous year by a classmate, identified by the pseudonym John Smith. Smith later pleaded guilty to assault in juvenile court, and was placed on probation and required to participate in sex offender therapy. Yet throughout the 2017-18 academic year, his friends made Doe’s life miserable at Glenwood Springs High School, she says in her suit filed in the U.S. District Court of Colorado against the Roaring Fork School District."

Doe’s complaint is one of at least 330 suits filed across the United States since the beginning of 2018 alleging that K-12 public and charter schools failed to protect students from sexual assault and harassment or mishandled incidents that came to light, according to an NBC News count based on court records.

It's a pretty strong example showing that the politics of the left leads to bad outcomes.

Indeed, it is sooooo bad, that imo, the motives of the Left come into question themselves and not just the quality of their policies.

 

[Correll]

was he prosecuted?

if no, then this post by you has nothing to do with what I said.

if they covered up the crime, it's a "let's see what we can get away with" to me. again no one prosecuted yet.

throw those who covered it in the prison next door and I'll bet they don't do it again.

He was eventually prosecuted, but IN SPITE of the actions of the school, not because of them.


And those that did the coverup, they are not going to be throw in jail. They are the ones telling the police who to arrest, and teh police are doing as they are told.

 

[iceberg]

He was eventually prosecuted, but IN SPITE of the actions of the school, not because of them.


And those that did the coverup, they are not going to be throw in jail. They are the ones telling the police who to arrest, and teh police are doing as they are told.

and this would illustrate my exact sentiment you seem to ignore because you and i don't agree on how to get to the goal of stopping this.

if the kid was prosecuted and in jail, he won't rape someone. done.

however, if the group that covered it up and got away with it are NOT prosecuted, then they are emboldened to see what else they can cover up and get away with because no one is holding people accountable these days.

 

[Correll]

and this would illustrate my exact sentiment you seem to ignore because you and i don't agree on how to get to the goal of stopping this.

if the kid was prosecuted and in jail, he won't rape someone. done.

however, if the group that covered it up and got away with it are NOT prosecuted, then they are emboldened to see what else they can cover up and get away with because no one is holding people accountable these days.

If we pretend that this is all just about "crime" and we don't point fingers about teh policies that led to this crime, that IS the very ACT of NOT holding them accountable.


Ginning up outrage over their actions, is teh first step towards holding them accountable.

 

[iceberg]

If we pretend that this is all just about "crime" and we don't point fingers about teh policies that led to this crime, that IS the very ACT of NOT holding them accountable.


Ginning up outrage over their actions, is teh first step towards holding them accountable.

great. we can deal with the policies 2nd. but first, prosecute to the fullest extend and penalty of law and *that* policy will slow things down.

what you are advocating i don't disagree with, but simply feel if you attack closer to the source of the problem, these things stop by nature.

their illegal action of rape should be enough to warrant tossing him in jail. all the sideshow noise diminishes going after the dude who did it.

 

[Lesh]

We know why the Neo-GOP have focused on this case, not for justice for little girls but for the drama.

In that same county...just weeks prior...there was another rape but that one occurred in an empty classroom and the RWNJs are silent about it.

That one doesn't fit their agenda

Newsflash...rapists rape because they are rapists. Not because of a sign on a door or whether or not they are wearing pants as opposed to a skirt.

No sign on a door keeps a rapist out of a bathroom