Fascism vs Socialism?

[Agnapostate]

The common fallacy is that I am going to tolerate your long-winded crap about screwing children.

You advocate sex with children? See if you answer it in one sentence.

Nope. Now get the **** out of here and stop derailing this thread, you pathetic little clown.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Took it up the ass, did you, and now you are crying? Folks are laughing at you.

 

[Agnapostate]

Took it up the ass, did you, and now you are crying? Folks are laughing at you.

Snarkey, the way that you're going on in this thread, I'd think the gonorrhea rash must have spread to your strap-on clit...either that, or there's some kind of antagonistic interaction with these hourly hot flashes that you're apparently having, *****.

 

[L.K.Eder]

Fascism vs Socialism

i missed the match, who won?

 

[Agnapostate]

Neither one exists now, so I guess it was a double knockout.

 

[L.K.Eder]

Neither one exists now, so I guess it was a double knockout.

i can't believe i missed it. i was rooting for Fascism in the beginning, because of the uniforms.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Agnapostate apparently is now afraid to say that he thinks pedophilia is just fine and that the laws should be changed to accomodate the illness, though that is certainly what he inferred earlier.

His cowardice really is the better part of discretion. What a loozer.

 

[Agnapostate]

Agnapostate apparently is now afraid to say that he thinks pedophilia is just fine and that the laws should be changed to accomodate the illness, though that is certainly what he inferred earlier.

His cowardice really is the better part of discretion. What a loozer.

Not quite, Snarkey. Apart from the fact that pedophilia isn't illegal (it's a clinical disorder, not a criminal offense), you're apparently too ******* stupid to know that I'm the one here who most strongly advocated the preservation of pedophilia as a mental disorder in the DSM and stated reasons for that. Now run along before your **** gets smashed into tomato pulp, sparky.

 

[JakeStarkey]

You are not the person to do that. Of that I am quite sure, and so are you.

Pedophilia is not a mental disorder. When commited it is a crime.

Murder is not a mental disorder. When committed it is a crime.

Are you going to threaten me again, little one?

 

[L.K.Eder]

You are not the person to do that. Of that I am quite sure, and so are you.

Pedophilia is not a mental disorder. When commited it is a crime.

Murder is not a mental disorder. When committed it is a crime.

Are you going to threaten me again, little one?

how do you commit pedophilia?

your comparison to murder sucks big time.

 

[Ringel05]

Interesting, in my experience it's almost everything. Specific types of socialism and incentives combined with human nature do not go hand in hand, as has been proven over and over. People are more often motivated by self, not collectivism.

There is a common fallacy that socialists believe that persons will be inclined to labor "for the good of the collective" rather than for their own self-interest. But I've never heard any major socialist theorist describe any such sentiment, and socialism is ultimately more meritocratic than capitalism because it's based on remuneration for personal labor contribution (measured through effort or some other standard), rather than the labor and capital contribution measurements of capitalism, which permits those who have hoarded capital to be slovenly.

So to speak from a purely theoretical stand point from individuals cloistered from the real world. I've delt with these people on numerous occasions. Their focus is generally so myopic as to not take into account real world application within their model or misconstrue what the actual motivational factors are.
Question: Given your theoretical model applied to real world scenarios what would you do with people like me? BTW in this scenario I refuse to be part of the system.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Eder, are you supporting the legal right for adults to have sex with children?

 

[L.K.Eder]

Eder, are you supporting the legal right for adults to have sex with children?

No Starkey, I don't.

Now what?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Now? Thank you.

 

[Agnapostate]

You are not the person to do that. Of that I am quite sure, and so are you.

Pedophilia is not a mental disorder. When commited it is a crime.

Wrong. According to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, pedophilia is a mental illness wherein a person experiences a prolonged and regular sexual attraction to prepubescent children. I don't give a **** what you think and I don't give a **** what you call me for providing the accurate definition, chump.

So to speak from a purely theoretical stand point from individuals cloistered from the real world. I've delt with these people on numerous occasions. Their focus is generally so myopic as to not take into account real world application within their model or misconstrue what the actual motivational factors are.

Since I've not dealt with and encountered the same persons that you have, I of course can't comment on that issue. But even moving beyond that, there are provisions in socialist economic theory that have long since addressed the incentive issue, and ensure that socialism is ultimately more meritocratic in nature than capitalism.

Question: Given your theoretical model applied to real world scenarios what would you do with people like me? BTW in this scenario I refuse to be part of the system.

Not provide you with public services if you won't accept labor assignments, and possibly reduce your public goods and services allowance if you shirk or don't work as productively as possible.

 

[Ringel05]

You are not the person to do that. Of that I am quite sure, and so are you.

Pedophilia is not a mental disorder. When commited it is a crime.

Wrong. According to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, pedophilia is a mental illness wherein a person experiences a prolonged and regular sexual attraction to prepubescent children. I don't give a **** what you think and I don't give a **** what you call me for providing the accurate definition, chump.

So to speak from a purely theoretical stand point from individuals cloistered from the real world. I've delt with these people on numerous occasions. Their focus is generally so myopic as to not take into account real world application within their model or misconstrue what the actual motivational factors are.

Since I've not dealt with and encountered the same persons that you have, I of course can't comment on that issue. But even moving beyond that, there are provisions in socialist economic theory that have long since addressed the incentive issue, and ensure that socialism is ultimately more meritocratic in nature than capitalism.


If you work in academia then you are in contact with these people on a daily basis.

Question: Given your theoretical model applied to real world scenarios what would you do with people like me? BTW in this scenario I refuse to be part of the system.

Not provide you with public services if you won't accept labor assignments, and possibly reduce your public goods and services allowance if you shirk or don't work as productively as possible.

And if that doesn't work?

 

[Agnapostate]

What reasonable expectation could you have of material incentives not motivating people to work?

 

[Ringel05]

What reasonable expectation could you have of material incentives not motivating people to work?

You theoretical model still has one major flaw. What makes you think material incentives are the only motivating force for people? In a real world application while 80% of the people might go quietly into the darkness, i.e. submit to your brand of slavery, the 20% left will do everything in their power to not allow it. Hence my reference to your brand of slavery.
In the real world in order to deal with people like me you would have three options: A. Imprisonment B. Reeducation C: Disposal. The fact that the 20/80 rule will constantly apply means that eventually the idilic model will eventually give way to a dictatorship of one or a dictatorship by councel in order to maintain and exert control.
Black market and other criminal activities would be rampant also undercutting market control leading to even more state control. The state, not the people will control as has been proven time and again.
Thanks, no thanks.

 

[Dante]

...we're now incorrectly describing fascism as "socialist" in nature?

This comment by Agna got me thinking.

Certainly I can see how fascism and socialism differ in theory. In fact theoretically, they differ quite significantly. However, in practice it seems they end up looking very much alike: All power (and control of resources and means of production) in the hands of a very few. Far fewer even than with capitalism.

Discuss.

False first premise. Start over.

ditto!

 

[JakeStarkey]

You are not the person to do that. Of that I am quite sure, and so are you.

Pedophilia is not a mental disorder. When commited it is a crime.

Wrong. According to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, pedophilia is a mental illness wherein a person experiences a prolonged and regular sexual attraction to prepubescent children. I don't give a **** what you think and I don't give a **** what you call me for providing the accurate definition, chump.

Since I've not dealt with and encountered the same persons that you have, I of course can't comment on that issue. But even moving beyond that, there are provisions in socialist economic theory that have long since addressed the incentive issue, and ensure that socialism is ultimately more meritocratic in nature than capitalism.


If you work in academia then you are in contact with these people on a daily basis.

Question: Given your theoretical model applied to real world scenarios what would you do with people like me? BTW in this scenario I refuse to be part of the system.

Not provide you with public services if you won't accept labor assignments, and possibly reduce your public goods and services allowance if you shirk or don't work as productively as possible.

And if that doesn't work?

You can baa u ball baaa if you wish until all the sheep come home, but to try to pretend that as a first premis pedophilia is a sexual orentation rather than a crime against children is false. The pedophile does not treatment and a swanky clinic but some butt justice at the gray-bar hotel.