Fascism is a conservative form of government.

[theHawk]

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This..is the blueprint used by conservatives.

Make no mistake.

I love this line:
Fascism [is] the complete opposite of…Marxian Socialism

HOW is that? tell me how Hitler and Stalin were different?

I love the left's retarded elites who try to sound intelligent.

I have more lines out of this.....holy shit this is a gold mine of stupidity.

That was written by Benito Mussolini.

Look him up.

If it was written by Mussolini it must be true!

Got to love liberal logic.

 

[Peach]

In theory the two (fascism, communism) are polar opposites; in practice, they have shown to be much alike. Fascism is on the far right end of the spectrum, but the ends MERGE in reality.

 

[Sallow]

In theory the two (fascism, communism) are polar opposites; in practice, they have shown to be much alike. Fascism is on the far right end of the spectrum, but the ends MERGE in reality.

Absolutely.

 

[Sallow]

I love this line:
Fascism [is] the complete opposite of…Marxian Socialism

HOW is that? tell me how Hitler and Stalin were different?

I love the left's retarded elites who try to sound intelligent.

I have more lines out of this.....holy shit this is a gold mine of stupidity.

That was written by Benito Mussolini.

Look him up.

If it was written by Mussolini it must be true!

Got to love liberal logic.

Were you asleep in history class or what?

Mussolini was one of the founders of Fascism.

 

[buckeye45_73]

"Liberalism is a disease of the mind that weakens and corrupts human beings." -Adolf Hitler - 1939

The anti-Semitism of the new movement (Christian Social movement)
was based on religious ideas instead of racial knowledge.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 3]

“I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty
Creator. By warding off the Jews I am fighting for the Lord’s work.”

[Adolph Hitler, Speech, Reichstag, 1936]

“My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a
fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded
by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and
summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! was greatest
not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian
and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord
at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the
Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight
against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with
deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact
that it was for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross. As
a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have
the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice… And if there is
anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly, it is
the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty
to my own people. And when I look on my people I see them work and
work and toil and labor, and at the end of the week they have only
for their wages wretchedness and misery. When I go out in the morning
and see these men standing in their queues and look into their
pinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian, but a very
devil, if I felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two
thousand years ago, turn against those by whom today this poor people
are plundered and exposed.”

[Adolf Hitler, speech in Munich on April 12, 1922]

Fascism is the combination of "appointed" one party government, with religion and business/wealthy people doing the appointing.

That's the height of conservatism.

you do realize that liberals in a modern context are not the same as those Hitler was talking about right?

And you're also saying Hitler was a Christian? Are you serious?

He used it, because he knew he couldn't defeat it.....,kinda like liberals now..who say they're Christians but don't believe anything in the bible.

 

[buckeye45_73]

In theory the two (fascism, communism) are polar opposites; in practice, they have shown to be much alike. Fascism is on the far right end of the spectrum, but the ends MERGE in reality.

I agree with what you said, but can someone bullet point the highlights of what these two ideas are and how they are different? I especially want a leftists to do it....it should be entertaining.

 

[buckeye45_73]

so Swallow explain this

Benito Mussolini - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Mussolini made vitriolic attacks against Christianity and the Catholic Church, which he accompanied with provocative and blasphemous remarks about the consecrated host, and about a love affair between Christ and Mary Magdalene.[144] He believed that socialists who were Christian or who accepted religious marriage should be expelled from the party. He denounced the Catholic Church for "its authoritarianism and refusal to allow freedom of thought …" Mussolini's newspaper, La Lotta di Classe, reportedly had an anti-Christian editorial stance.[144]

 

[Peach]

so Swallow explain this

Benito Mussolini - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Mussolini made vitriolic attacks against Christianity and the Catholic Church, which he accompanied with provocative and blasphemous remarks about the consecrated host, and about a love affair between Christ and Mary Magdalene.[144] He believed that socialists who were Christian or who accepted religious marriage should be expelled from the party. He denounced the Catholic Church for "its authoritarianism and refusal to allow freedom of thought …" Mussolini's newspaper, La Lotta di Classe, reportedly had an anti-Christian editorial stance.[144]

Correct; both he & Hitler once in power, despised Christians, openly. Nor was "National Socialism" confined to individual nations. Germany, Italy, and Japan wanted expansion, and started wars because of that desire. Communism was never practiced in reality, just a theory some (Mao & Lenin, and Trotsky are the best examples) used to gain power. But the "state" never faded away, just became another dictatorship, not of the masses, but of the few MOST brutal. I remain a moderate but answered anyway.

 

[Bush92]

Actually..no.

Fascism..is a right wing ideology. In Italy and Germany it did use populism to gain power but later? It was strictly conservative.

Communism..while it may start out as "leftist"? In practice becomes quite conservative and right wing.

You have no idea what your babbling about. Communism is a leftist totalitarian ideology with a command economy. Fascism is also a leftist ideology that is totalitarian and a near command economy. Conservatives in America are constitutionalist or strict constructionist that are opposed to more big government and central planning of the state.

You have a degree?

Seriously?

From where?

Regents? Because then that would make sense.

And what the heck is "Constitutionalist"?

By the way Conservatives didn't write, or even know much about the United States Constitution aside from a bifurcated 2nd Amendment and misinterpreted 10th Amendment.

Conservative governments include Monarchy, Aristocracy, Theocracy, Dictatorships, Theocracy, Oligarchy and Fascism.

And if you had your druthers in political science you'd know that Marxism advocates for the eventual dissolution of a central government.

Which basically shows you don't really know what you are talking about.

Actually I have three degrees and all from 4 year schools. fascism is leftist. the battle on the eastern front in WWII was between two leftist ideologies. Nazi Germany was socialist. Hence the "NATIONALIST SOCIALIST PARTY". The economy in Nazi Germany was; free education, health care,economy based on government contracts,and all Germans got two weeks vacation...paid for by the state. Communism calls for the eventual dissolution of central government. Tell that to the fuckin people that died under Stalin, or the East Germans who stormed the Berlin Wall because communism was oppressive.

 

[Little-Acorn]

Fascism is a conservative form of government.

(Various quotes from Hitler)

So now liberals like Sallow are forming their opinions based on the writings of Adolf Hitler?

I expected no less.

 

[Bush92]

Shallow: Read the Communist Manifesto and learn something about state control and creation of the new "communist man." Pol Pot in Cambodia, yeah, he dissolved central government.

 

[IlarMeilyr]

Stalin's government was extraordinarily fascist.

But it wasn't conservative.

So much for the thesis of the OP.

 

[Pete7469]

Fascism is a conservative form of government.

(Various quotes from Hitler)

So now liberals like Sallow are forming their opinions based on the writings of Adolf Hitler?

I expected no less.

They've been doing it all along, but they're still too stupid to recognize it.

 

[Bush92]

Hmm..

Reagan was a Union leader and part of the Democratic Party.

Does that mean he was pro Union and pro Democrat all his life?

Quite a quandary when you deal in absolutes..

Reagan did a 180 on his beliefs dolt

on the other hand fascism and socialism both believe in a strong central government heavily involved in your evryday life

try again

Fascists killed Liberals, Jews, Communists, Socialists, Union Members, and most people that were unlike them.

Just liked you'd like to do if given the chance (or probably have).

Fascism is intolerant and Undemocratic. That is the "180" degree polar opposite of Liberalism.

It is however..Conservatism to a "T".

You try again.

Stalin killed millions of his own people. Mao killed millions of his own people. Pol Pot killed millions of his own people. Why? Because in order to create the "new communist man" you have to destroy all vestiges of the old capitalist system and way of thinking. Never seen a free market democratic-republican fascist state or communist state. Murder and central control by the state: liberalism to a "T."

 

[Bush92]

Fascism an academic definition Dictionary of Political Science: A political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition .

 

[Bush92]

com·mu·nism [kom-yuh-niz-uhm] Show IPA
noun
1.a theory or system of social organization based on the holding of all property in common, actual ownership being ascribed to the community as a whole or to the state.
2. a system of social organization in which all economic and social activity is controlled by a totalitarian state dominated by a single and self-perpetuating political party.(Democrats wet dream)

 

[Bush92]

8,9,10...Shallow yer out!

 

[francoHFW]

TY, brainwashed, ignorant morons. LOL

No university in the world teaches that fascist is leftist, dunces. Germany had paid vacations and health care since Bismarck and the Kaiser. Being civilized is not fascist (capitalist) or communist.

 

[theHawk]

That was written by Benito Mussolini.

Look him up.

If it was written by Mussolini it must be true!

Got to love liberal logic.

Were you asleep in history class or what?

Mussolini was one of the founders of Fascism.

Yes, which means he lied in order to get his seat of power. Has it ever occurred to you that dictators like Mussolini and Hitler were full of shit, so maybe you shouldn't be qouting them as if what they said is truth?

 

[The T]

Stalin's government was extraordinarily fascist.

But it wasn't conservative.

So much for the thesis of the OP.

Sallow is the same kind of creep that says Conservatives want a theocracy, while ignoring what one really is. He thinks the weirdbeards in IRAN are Conservatives. He and his band of idiots are in here constantly defending them and what they do.

Odd that is.