Far Right Wing Violence Has Skyrocketed Since Obama Elected

[Meathead]

Look, blacks commit 49% of murders in the US while only constituting about 15% of the population, the argument that red states have higher murder totals and the implicit argument that conservatives are more prone to violence, it is definitely a red herring. I mean about 95% of blacks voted for Obama.

 

[Black_Label]

The murder rate in LA is due primarily to 2 cities -

New Orleans - Democrat
Baton Rouge - Democrat

Lying to make yourself to make you feel better isn't going to change the fact that the most violent states are also bright red.

The GOP and violence go hand in hand.

I was going to ask you if you really were this stupid in real life.... but... never mind... I have my answer... and it is yes.

Being a butthurt ***** that can't handle the facts shows the true ignorance and downright stupidity from those on the far right.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Most of the homegrown radical right wing militias, KKK/neo-nazi groups, and radical right wing evangelicals are from the bright red south, which also has the highest murder rates.

The murder rate in LA is due primarily to 2 cities -

New Orleans - Democrat
Baton Rouge - Democrat

Lying to make yourself to make you feel better isn't going to change the fact that the most violent states are also bright red.

The GOP and violence go hand in hand.

I live in neighboring Jefferson Parish... predominately (R), approximately 433,000 people... 33 murders in 2012. Orleans parish, predominately (D), approximately 360,000 people,
200 murders.. hell, 5 were shot today at the MLK parade route.

Suck on that bub.

 

[Black_Label]

Come on libs. If the OPs premise were true dont you think the LIB media would be all over this story?
They aren't because there is no story.

It was reported in the media, but it's not exploited like the right wing propaganda machine would do if the opposite was true.

Though I agree it does need much more exposure, the radical right is the most dangerous terror cell and threat to america.

A little old lady who vote for Nixon once is a threat to you Label. jackass. The evidence is mounting that its Obama's voter base areas which have the violence.

The facts show that right wing domestic terrorism is the biggest threat to america.

 

[saveliberty]

It was reported in the media, but it's not exploited like the right wing propaganda machine would do if the opposite was true.

Though I agree it does need much more exposure, the radical right is the most dangerous terror cell and threat to america.

A little old lady who vote for Nixon once is a threat to you Label. jackass. The evidence is mounting that its Obama's voter base areas which have the violence.

The facts show that right wing domestic terrorism is the biggest threat to america.

Then its a potential threat, because the actual is being committed by the left.

 

[nodoginnafight]

It was reported in the media, but it's not exploited like the right wing propaganda machine would do if the opposite was true.

Though I agree it does need much more exposure, the radical right is the most dangerous terror cell and threat to america.

A little old lady who vote for Nixon once is a threat to you Label. jackass. The evidence is mounting that its Obama's voter base areas which have the violence.

The facts show that right wing domestic terrorism is the biggest threat to america.

Why is it important to label one threat as "the biggest."

We have plenty of issues that deserve our attention. Radical right-wing terrorism is certainly one of them, but I'm not sure it's "the biggest" and I don't think we gain anything by spending our time determining which "is bigger."

 

[Misty]

500 deaths by liberals in Chicago alone.. in one year.

The states with the highest murder rates are all bright red. Fail from you as usual.

Prove it. Prove exactly what violence has been committed by registered republicans. You can't.

 

[Misty]

It was reported in the media, but it's not exploited like the right wing propaganda machine would do if the opposite was true.

Though I agree it does need much more exposure, the radical right is the most dangerous terror cell and threat to america.

A little old lady who vote for Nixon once is a threat to you Label. jackass. The evidence is mounting that its Obama's voter base areas which have the violence.

The facts show that right wing domestic terrorism is the biggest threat to america.

This is an outright lie. There is no proof. You can not prove it. Pure hyperbole.

 

[sfcalifornia]

Yours is a liberal argument I used to make as a teeny bopper. It didn't work then and it won't work now. The underlying problem is one that few care to address and only the black community can solve. The first step is self-reliance, or as the late (liberal) Sen. Patrick Moynihan termed it, "Benign Neglect". At some point society will get tired of pouring taxpayers money down a bottomless pit - again.

Self-reliance is getting them to stand on their own two feet which is what I just said.

You aren't going to solve the problem of poverty by ignoring the problem and you aren't going to solve the problem by blindly pumping tax dollars unchecked into their hands each month either. Both the government and private industry need to work together and invest in the community and it's infrastructure.

Your argument is a very familiar one, but one that has not worked in the past unless you consider dependence on government successful. Re-wrapping the same policy and calling it new and innovative is not the ticket either. The problem is not just poverty. Many have come into the country impoverished and bore racism but still built better lives for their children with no help from the government. The problem is far deeper.

You're not reading what I'm writing.... I also just said, government and private industry have to work together.

You can't just expect people to develop a work ethic overnight. You can't expect generations of people in this country with a lousy work ethic to just sit up one day and change for the better. Government is there to help and yes, lots of people now depend solely on the government these days, but the private sector really needs to start kicking in and picking up the slack in trying to solve the poverty problem. No, I don't think one should have a lifetime membership in Section 8 or foodstamps but I do think businesses should set up shop in poor neighborhoods, hire and train the locals, pay a living wage in order to make drug dealing and prostitution less appealing and maybe give the people who live there a sense of community and purpose.

The problem isn't much deeper than that. It's actually very cut and dried.

 

[Cowman]

Look, blacks commit 49% of murders in the US while only constituting about 15% of the population, the argument that red states have higher murder totals and the implicit argument that conservatives are more prone to violence, it is definitely a red herring. I mean about 95% of blacks voted for Obama.

The act that almost nobody calls you idiots out anymore is just telling of what kind of conservatives are on this board.

More and more they're becoming accepting and supportive of this kind of racist talk... always looking for a new angle to try and paint black people as a scourge on society.

This is the classic, "You know... I'm not saying your mother's a whore... but she is blowing all kinds of dudes for money."

 

[Dot Com]

500 deaths by liberals in Chicago alone.. in one year.

Wheres your friend Salt Jones?

 

[Charles_Main]

Not that it's to anyone's surprise, but since Obama became the nominee for president, radical right wing violence has soared.

"A report published by the Combating Terrorism Center at West Point Military Academy on Jan. 15 discusses the potential dangers of “violent far-right” organizations, which has angered some conservatives that believe the military should focus on international threats.

The executive summary of the paper, “Challengers from the Sidelines: Understanding America’s Violent Far-Right,” claims that “since 2007, there has been a dramatic rise in the number of attacks and violent plots originating from individuals and groups who self- identify with the far-right of American politics.”

Written by Arie Perliger, Director of Terrorism Studies at the Combating Terrorism Center and an Assistant Professor at the Department of Social Sciences at West Point, the paper asserts that three distinct ideologies exist in the “American violent far right.” Those are “a racist/white supremacy movement, an anti-federalist movement and a fundamentalist movement,” the last of which “includes mainly Christian Identity groins such as the Aryan Nations.”

“Findings indicate that…it is not only feelings of deprivation that motivate those involved in far right violence, but also the sense of empowerment that emerges when the political system is perceived to be increasingly permissive to far right ideas,” it later reads.

The rise in attacks in the 21st century were significant, as “Although in the 1990s the average number of attacks per year was 70.1, the average number of attacks per year in the first 11 years of the twenty-first century was 307.5, a rise of more than 400%.”

West Point study on ?violent far right? shows ?dramatic rise? in attacks | The Raw Story

Can you point out some of the latest violence committed by the right wing?

Sikh Temple Shooter ID'd as White Supremacist, Neo-Nazi | TIME.com

That was before Obama's Re-election fool.

 

[Black_Label]

A little old lady who vote for Nixon once is a threat to you Label. jackass. The evidence is mounting that its Obama's voter base areas which have the violence.

The facts show that right wing domestic terrorism is the biggest threat to america.

This is an outright lie. There is no proof. You can not prove it. Pure hyperbole.

Did you not read the OP?

 

[Bigfoot]

Look, blacks commit 49% of murders in the US while only constituting about 15% of the population, the argument that red states have higher murder totals and the implicit argument that conservatives are more prone to violence, it is definitely a red herring. I mean about 95% of blacks voted for Obama.

The act that almost nobody calls you idiots out anymore is just telling of what kind of conservatives are on this board.

More and more they're becoming accepting and supportive of this kind of racist talk... always looking for a new angle to try and paint black people as a scourge on society.

This is the classic, "You know... I'm not saying your mother's a whore... but she is blowing all kinds of dudes for money."

OMG let's NOT tell the truth eh? If someone does they will be called a racist and then you don't have to look at the truth of what was posted.

The Complexion of Crime in America

In 2005 black men raped 37,460 white women, while white men raped less than 10 black women.

Despite a corrupt mainstream media that refuses to highlight this predominant social plague, the statistics are irrefutable: Blacks commit an excessively disproportionate number of crimes in comparison to other races. And many of these crimes are black on white. According to a 2005 Justice Department report entitled “Criminal Victimization in the United States,” black men raped 37,460 white women, while white men raped less than ten black females, for example. Blacks murder whites at a rate 18 times higher than whites murder blacks.

A 2005 report published by the New Century Foundation called “The Color of Crime” took these trends a step further:

• Blacks are seven times more likely than people of other races to commit murder, and eight times more likely to commit robbery.
• Blacks are three times more likely than non-blacks to use a gun in a crime.
• Blacks commit 75% of all interracial crimes; whites commit 15%; while others account for 10%.
• Blacks are seven times more likely to be imprisoned than whites.

To gauge these numbers, although blacks only comprise 13% of the U.S. population compared to whites at 65%, in 2010 blacks committed more murders (5,890) than whites (5,286). In this context, it’s not surprising that over 10% of all black males aged 25-65 currently reside in prison. That figure is a mere 1.4% for whites.

 

[Wehrwolfen]

It was reported in the media, but it's not exploited like the right wing propaganda machine would do if the opposite was true.

Though I agree it does need much more exposure, the radical right is the most dangerous terror cell and threat to america.

A little old lady who vote for Nixon once is a threat to you Label. jackass. The evidence is mounting that its Obama's voter base areas which have the violence.

The facts show that right wing domestic terrorism is the biggest threat to america.

When did #OWS adopt the name of "Right Wing"? Please list the number of domestic terrorist acts committed by those Right Wingers since Obama assumed his monarchy.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Anyone who does not think the far right has a violent side is not reading this forum.

 

[Harry Dresden]

500 deaths by liberals in Chicago alone.. in one year.

The states with the highest murder rates are all bright red. Fail from you as usual.

doesnt matter what color the States are.....why do the anti- "Gun Nutters" not talk about the REAL "Gun Nutters"......the Gangs in big Cities throughout the Country who kill people every ******* day.....and its usually some poor kid walking home from School who has nothing to do with these ***** or their dam conflict.....instead they are worried about the guy down the street who owns 5 guns and is overly concerned about the 2nd Amendment.....

 

[Mushroom]

The executive summary of the paper, “Challengers from the Sidelines: Understanding America’s Violent Far-Right,” claims that “since 2007, there has been a dramatic rise in the number of attacks and violent plots originating from individuals and groups who self- identify with the far-right of American politics.”

When I read this, this is the phrase that stuck out to me the most.

That is not the same as saying "Right-Wing". That claim is like trying to tie groups like The Weathermen as "Left-Wing". Violent groups are violent groups, and the majority of those on both the right and left both condemn those kinds of individuals.

In reality, most of those "Far Right" groups really have an ideology that is a mixed-bag of Socialist, Liberterian, Isolationist and Anti-Government beliefs that are really only associated with "Right Wing" because they think they oppose the "Left Wing". However, they also just as solidly are against the "Conventional Right Wing", which could be seen by many of them opposing such Conservative presidents as Reagan, Bush and Bush.

Tim McVeigh is a great example of this. Registered as a Republican, he actually voted for and backed increasingly fringe Libertarian beliefs. And his actions took on an increasingly violent Anti-Government turn, culminating in the destruction of a Federal Building in a recreation of a scene from a famous White-Supremist book.

Myself, I view such individuals not as Far-Right, but as an off-shoot of the Far-Left Anarchist movement. Because in reality that is the ideological belief that is closest to the truth.

 

[beagle9]

So Black control would go much further at lowering the national homicide rate then gun control.

It's not about controlling blacks, it's about addressing poverty. Clean up and invest in low income neighborhoods and gun violence will go down.

There is no excuse in violence spoken in this way, even in poverty we are to be loving, humble human beings, and we are to remain focused on the Lord Christ and his word in our lives without waver while in our struggles. If we do these things then we will have rewards that can not be taken away from us ever, otherwise seek not your treasures or rewards upon this earth, but store your treasures in Heaven where rust and moth doth not corrupt them, and therefore where your heart is, there shall your treasures be also.

Many are still to this day poor, and have been poor throughout time, but they who are of the Lord do not cause trouble while in their poverty, nor do they hold their poverty against others whom did not cause their poverty, nor do they hold accountable unto themselves, those whom have caused their poverty while upon this earth, for this is the Lord's work to hold accountable those who are sinful against another in their lives, for the Lord is just and shall always comfort and deliver his children for whom do believe in these things from evil.

They hold not anyone hostage or anything else while in their poverty, because spiritually they are rich beyond imagination in the Lord's eyesight, and therefore they await patiently on the Lord to set them free, just as he had promised those whom do believe these things in which are written unto them, and that do believe these things with all their hearts.

No excuse in violence while in poverty, but rather it is that we should pray for deliverance as being the best solution always, for his guidance is without challenge by man, for he is found spiritually among those who are impoverished and weak always, and he is strong for them, and they shall prevail in the Lord always through their belief in these things which are written unto them.

 

[Cowman]

Anyone who does not think the far right has a violent side is not reading this forum.

Considering we have people who say they would kill police officers for simply knocking on their door because they wouldn't have any reason other than nefarious to be doing it.

Yeah, I'd say our little forum here is a good show of the violent tendencies some of the far right have.

Never going to let you live that one down, bigrebnc. But of course I know that doesn't bother you, because you were proud of it when you said it.