Fake prom staged to trick lesbian kids (here we go again wow)

[Gadawg73]

LOL. You will never get it.
You just gave us another example of unequal protection under the law.
It is not about gay or straight. It is about equal rights.
Equal rights means you can take any other human to the prom.

No. Equal rights means that the same rules that apply to one person apply to everyone.

That was always the case.

ONLY if the rules are equally constitutional. And these are not.
Equal rights means the rules have to be constitutional BEFORE they are deemed valid.
Seperate but equal lost a long,long, long time ago dude.

 

[rdean]

I don't understand the uproar. Seems like conservative values at work.

Im surprised you arent upset. People freely choosing not to attend an event isnt something you generally like.

But you are right. Freedom is clearly at work here. People just dont like it because the teenagers involved made a choice they didn't like.

Of course I feel sorry for the children. But we know what to expect from the right. Lies, deceit, violence. They are just mean people. Any other behaviour would be a surprise.

 

[Gadawg73]

Take the situation for what is truly is. A high school girl wants to be accepted for your sexual preference. She decides to manipulate the school and students into meeting her expectations. The school, parents and students were not interested. So, by force of a judge's decision, they have to have the prom.

The other students had three choices, go to the prom, stay home or have an alternative event. I think the students should sue her for having to miss the prom they invisioned for themselves. The selfish act of one person caused damage to many.

Everything you claim is Bullshit.
A high school girl wanted to go to the prom with her girlfriend.
What is wrong with that?
Adults like you manufacture reasons why she should not be honest about who she is.

 

[Samson]

""It would be hard for him to move it," she said. "A lot of people would be inconvenienced."

Davidson ruled the school board violated McMillen's rights. "The Court finds this expression and communication of her viewpoint is the type of speech that falls squarely within the purview of the First Amendment," Davidson wrote in his opinion.

Judge: Lesbian student's rights violated - USATODAY.com

anymore comments you want to look like a fool?

So what your saying is I was correct and then she sued to force the prom to occur. And now you guys think it's somehow evil that the other students decided not to go.

Do you always make it up as you go?
The facts do not support any of your arguments.
She sued because they had a rule that she could not go and that she could not wear a tuxedo. The school argued that they had a right to not hold the prom.
The court ruled her free speech rights were violated. Free speech was going to the prom with her date and wearing what was appropriate FOR ANYONE ELSE.

Most of the pretrial debate covered this part of the story.

The New Part of the story is the topic now:

Parents of students at the Fulton, Miss., high school are organizing the private prom, and school officials testified all junior and senior students would be allowed to attend. It wasn't clear from the testimony whether gay couples would be welcome.

Another prom is being organized by the Mississippi Safe Schools Coalition, an advocacy group for gay and lesbian students.

McMillen said she is considering attending the private prom, once she knows a little more about it. "If I feel like I will be welcome to go, I want to go," she said.

ACLU Mississippi legal director Kristy Bennett called Tuesday's ruling a victory.

A. If the ACLU was happy with the ruling, then why are we bitching?

B. Parents organized a PRIVATE prom (it sounds like school officials had no idea who may be invited)

C. The Mississippi Safe Schools Coalition organized a Prom the Lesbo could have attended. Why didn't she go to it?

 

[jillian]

A. If the ACLU was happy with the ruling, then why are we bitching?

B. Parents organized a PRIVATE prom (it sounds like school officials had no idea who may be invited)

C. The Mississippi Safe Schools Coalition organized a Prom the Lesbo could have attended. Why didn't she go to it?

A. Because it was a discriminatory, spiteful, pathetic and evil thing for the school to do. It also happened to discriminate unlawfully.

B. Parents have no RIGHT to a private prom.... And it doesn't sound at all like the school had no idea.

C. So if there were separate proms for black students and white students, you think that would be okay?

 

[Anguille]

Fake prom staged to trick lesbian kids - Broadsheet - Salon.com

McMillen told the Advocate that the special ed kids "had the time of their lives ... That's the one good thing that came out of this, [these kids] didn't have to worry about people making fun of them."

Props to this girl for doing her best to do the right thing. It looks like she and her girlfriend got snubbed in the end but were able to see the bright side. Sounds like the special ed kids had the best prom of all.

If that were the case then why is she labeling the prom she attended as a fake prom? Is she not also buying into the stereotype of what a real prom is?

Nowhere in the article does she call it a "fake prom". Salon.com called it a fake prom.

Fake prom staged to trick lesbian kids - Broadsheet - Salon.com

 

[Samson]

A. If the ACLU was happy with the ruling, then why are we bitching?

B. Parents organized a PRIVATE prom (it sounds like school officials had no idea who may be invited)

C. The Mississippi Safe Schools Coalition organized a Prom the Lesbo could have attended. Why didn't she go to it?

A. Because it was a discriminatory, spiteful, pathetic and evil thing for the school to do. It also happened to discriminate unlawfully.

B. Parents have no RIGHT to a private prom.... And it doesn't sound at all like the school had no idea.

C. So if there were separate proms for black students and white students, you think that would be okay?

A. The school didn't have a prom, 'k: Its been to court. ACLU is happy. Why can't you just BE HAPPY TOO???

B. Parents have no right to a private prom? REALLY? Are you telling me, that if you have a party you invite people you don't like?

C. If a private party for BLACKS ONLY (like the Black Congressional Caucus), wanted only Blacks, then by all means, have at it! ITS THEIR BUSINESS!

 

[Hellokitty]

I also read that McMillen didn't even take her girlfriend since the girlfriend's parents didn't want her involved in a media circus. McMillen went with a different girl.

 

[jillian]

A. If the ACLU was happy with the ruling, then why are we bitching?

B. Parents organized a PRIVATE prom (it sounds like school officials had no idea who may be invited)

C. The Mississippi Safe Schools Coalition organized a Prom the Lesbo could have attended. Why didn't she go to it?

A. Because it was a discriminatory, spiteful, pathetic and evil thing for the school to do. It also happened to discriminate unlawfully.

B. Parents have no RIGHT to a private prom.... And it doesn't sound at all like the school had no idea.

C. So if there were separate proms for black students and white students, you think that would be okay?

A. The school didn't have a prom, 'k: Its been to court. ACLU is happy. Why can't you just BE HAPPY TOO???

B. Parents have no right to a private prom? REALLY? Are you telling me, that if you have a party you invite people you don't like?

C. If a private party for BLACKS ONLY (like the Black Congressional Caucus), wanted only Blacks, then by all means, have at it! ITS THEIR BUSINESS!

A. You're being silly. You know very well it was a sucker move.

B. It wasn't a private party... it was a SCHOOL party that excluded lesbians and learning disabled kids.

C. Don't deflect. We aren't talking about the Black Congressional Caucus, we are talking about segregating a group of students from another group of students because of ignorance, hatred and bias.

 

[Anguille]

Fake prom staged to trick lesbian kids - Broadsheet - Salon.com

McMillen told the Advocate that the special ed kids "had the time of their lives ... That's the one good thing that came out of this, [these kids] didn't have to worry about people making fun of them."

Props to this girl for doing her best to do the right thing. It looks like she and her girlfriend got snubbed in the end but were able to see the bright side. Sounds like the special ed kids had the best prom of all.

How did she get snubbed? She went to the prom as she wanted. Where on earth is it said that everyone else had to go? They chose to exercise their freedom and not go.

It's like the entire concept of freedom is completely lost on people nowadays.

The second prom was set up to exclude her. People are perfectly free to be assholes. It doesn't make them any less assholes.

 

[saveliberty]

Take the situation for what is truly is. A high school girl wants to be accepted for your sexual preference. She decides to manipulate the school and students into meeting her expectations. The school, parents and students were not interested. So, by force of a judge's decision, they have to have the prom.

The other students had three choices, go to the prom, stay home or have an alternative event. I think the students should sue her for having to miss the prom they invisioned for themselves. The selfish act of one person caused damage to many.

Everything you claim is Bullshit.
A high school girl wanted to go to the prom with her girlfriend.
What is wrong with that?
Adults like you manufacture reasons why she should not be honest about who she is.

"Everything you claim is Bullshit." - prove it. The facts are on my side.

"A high school girl wanted to go to the prom with her girlfriend. What is wrong with that?"
I don't care to write a book on why your confused. You should know the reasoning.

"Adults like you manufacture reasons why she should not be honest about who she is." - No one is saying she can't be honest. They just don't want that type of behavior at a public school function. Good for them.

 

[Samson]

A. Because it was a discriminatory, spiteful, pathetic and evil thing for the school to do. It also happened to discriminate unlawfully.

B. Parents have no RIGHT to a private prom.... And it doesn't sound at all like the school had no idea.

C. So if there were separate proms for black students and white students, you think that would be okay?

A. The school didn't have a prom, 'k: Its been to court. ACLU is happy. Why can't you just BE HAPPY TOO???

B. Parents have no right to a private prom? REALLY? Are you telling me, that if you have a party you invite people you don't like?

C. If a private party for BLACKS ONLY (like the Black Congressional Caucus), wanted only Blacks, then by all means, have at it! ITS THEIR BUSINESS!

A. You're being silly. You know very well it was a sucker move.

B. It wasn't a private party... it was a SCHOOL party that excluded lesbians and learning disabled kids.

C. Don't deflect. We aren't talking about the Black Congressional Caucus, we are talking about segregating a group of students from another group of students because of ignorance, hatred and bias.

A. I'm not being silly. I'm SERIOUS DERNIT!! Sucker moves aren't illegal.

B. Seems there's conflicting evidence about the privacy of the party: I'm going with the USA Today Article's quote.

C. Deflect? You mean you don't want to compare Racial Segregation in Public School with Private Parties for Blacks?? Ok

I agree that there's what you and I call ignorance, hatred and bias. But darnit, if someone DEMANDS to be an ignorant, bias, hater, then they HAVE THAT RIGHT.

 

[saveliberty]

Props to this girl for doing her best to do the right thing. It looks like she and her girlfriend got snubbed in the end but were able to see the bright side. Sounds like the special ed kids had the best prom of all.

How did she get snubbed? She went to the prom as she wanted. Where on earth is it said that everyone else had to go? They chose to exercise their freedom and not go.

It's like the entire concept of freedom is completely lost on people nowadays.

The second prom was set up to exclude her. People are perfectly free to be assholes. It doesn't make them any less assholes.

Typically the one being an "asshole" is singular or a small group. Examples: Guy steals cookies from the Girl Scouts. Cop breaks up a good party. In this case your young lady decided ruining the prom for the entire class was fine, if it meant she could get her way. Lines up pretty good huh?

 

[Anguille]

Everyone has the right to exercise free speech.

The difference is most people don't use free speech to ostracize two little girls from their community.

No, you just do it to ostracize anyone who doesnt just worship your ideas whether they are "little girls" or adults.

BTW, on what planet are teenagers of prom age little girls?

They threatened to ruin the prom for everyone else. So why on earth would anyone else want to go with them or invite them to a party? Why would anyone want to be around someone so selfish?

They did not threaten anything. Stop making stuff up.

The school officials and some redneck parents screwed up big time. There is no indication it would have bothered any of the students to have had one prom where the entire class was welcome.

 

[Samson]

Everyone has the right to exercise free speech.

The difference is most people don't use free speech to ostracize two little girls from their community.

No, you just do it to ostracize anyone who doesnt just worship your ideas whether they are "little girls" or adults.

BTW, on what planet are teenagers of prom age little girls?

They threatened to ruin the prom for everyone else. So why on earth would anyone else want to go with them or invite them to a party? Why would anyone want to be around someone so selfish?

They did not threaten anything. Stop making stuff up.

The school officials and some redneck parents screwed up big time. There is no indication it would have bothered any of the students to have had one prom where the entire class was welcome.

Well, the OP doesn't describe the private party as one filled with sorrow and woe because the lesbian didn't show up.

 

[Anguille]

Actually, if it wasn't for the tuxedo... she probably wouldn't have won her case.
Hot Air Blog Archive Lesbian teen wins lawsuit against school that canceled prom, sort of


And, IMHO... it's her parents who should be ashamed of themselves. They failed to protect this kid from her own poor judgment. And now, she's probably got every kid in town mad at her. The course of her life is changed and who knows whether it'll be for good or ill.. all over a stupid high school prom.

I wouldn't be so sure about that. I know that if it had happened at my school she would have won the admiration of many of the kids I knew.

 

[Samson]

Amazing. They even revealed that in their opinions the learning disabled are shameful and unequal.

That town is a town of everything that is wrong with Americans.

What did you expect? This is Mississippi, Ground Zero of the Republican Party.

So you're saying that everyone in MS hates gays, and is Republican?

Just a tad prejudice yourself, huh.

 

[Samson]

Actually, if it wasn't for the tuxedo... she probably wouldn't have won her case.
Hot Air Blog Archive Lesbian teen wins lawsuit against school that canceled prom, sort of


And, IMHO... it's her parents who should be ashamed of themselves. They failed to protect this kid from her own poor judgment. And now, she's probably got every kid in town mad at her. The course of her life is changed and who knows whether it'll be for good or ill.. all over a stupid high school prom.

I wouldn't be so sure about that. I know that if it had happened at my school she would have won the admiration of many of the kids I knew.

Yes, and as we all know, all high schools are exactly the same and they are all like the one you went to.

and if they aren't THEY ARE EVUL!!!

 

[Anguille]

Y'all are such dumb sheep. Like this is an issue. Glad y'all fall for the divisiveness our government perpetuates to smokescreen them ripping us off blind, as an institution.

Heterosexuals have rights too, just in case any of you *** hags forgot that.

everyone has rights... that does not mean you have more right than someone else.

Not sure why people just don't get this...

They get it. They are just very petty people.

 

[Samson]

Y'all are such dumb sheep. Like this is an issue. Glad y'all fall for the divisiveness our government perpetuates to smokescreen them ripping us off blind, as an institution.

Heterosexuals have rights too, just in case any of you *** hags forgot that.

everyone has rights... that does not mean you have more right than someone else.

Not sure why people just don't get this...

They get it. They are just very petty people.

They are EEEEEEeeeeeeVUUUUuuuuUUULLLL!!!

Just like everyone else that don't share your definition of who has "more right than someone else" (whatever the hell THAT means).