Fake News. The Media Story that Trump Had Rioters Tear Gassed to Get to the Church is False According to Park Police.

[Death-Ninja]

As a matter of record, the media story that Trump had rioters tear gassed so he could go to the church in D.C. is also false. The Park Police said they had no idea Trump was coming. They asked the rioters three times to leave as they were violating curfew, destroying property, and attacking law enforcement. They did not leave so the Park service took the action they did.

Completely fake news the media keeps repeating.


Key quote from the story: "But on Tuesday morning, Park Police sources told WTOP that this was not the case, arguing that the protesters were not all peaceful, that tear gas was not used, and that officers did not know of Trump’s visit to the house of worship. The outlet went on to report that the crowd was pushed back when officers were being hit with water bottles and that protesters had climbed onto the top of a structure at the north end of Lafayette Square that had been attacked and burned a day earlier.”

Park Police say DC protesters cleared because they attacked cops, not because of Trump church visit: report

Park Police reportedly say protesters near the White House were pushed back by riot police on Monday evening because they were attacking police officers, not because of a visit by President Trump to a nearby church that had been set alight the night before.

www.foxnews.com

Just a few problems with this typical pile of shit from FOX:

1) The clearing started before the curfew. At least 15 minutes before. The protestors they cleared were not violating curfew, when the incident began.

2) What FOX doesn't tell you -- because they are not actually a news network, but rather a trump campaign arm -- is that the park police weren't the only law enforcement department on the scene. Several were there. And tear gas absolutely was used, as can be seen in the video from the events. Also used: rubber/pepper bullets.

3) Whether or not the park police or the several other law enforcement contingents on scene knew of the Trump photo op when they started clearing the area is irrelevant.

4) While the poor, gullible FOX audience is , as usual, woefully under- and misinformed, the entire rest of the world saw exactly what happened.

The news reports are spot on. Typical FOX gaslighting.

You democrats are psychotic, they were ordered to disperse by both Park service police and the secret service, curfew had nothing to do with their lawful order, the rioters refused, some immediately began throwing rocks and debris at the police, they were then swept from the park! Do you understand what the meaning of a lawful order from law enforcement is, and what refusing it obligates? "Peaceful protest underway" is no longer a defense against police actions taken, even if most were relatively peaceful, some of them began combative actions against police upon issuing of lawful order to disperse, all uniformly refused lawful order to disperse, making your imbecilic argument moot! Once protesters refused lawful order to disperse, once protesters began lobbing deadly objects at lawful authorities, they all became rioters and looters!

That is a lie. They were not throwing anything. This was not a legitimate police order. They were exercising their first amendment rights. Apparently the first amendment extends only to Trump and Republicans. They were not rioters and looters. You lying weasels are the ones who need to be tear gassed.

So far I have not seen one totally peaceful protest on television. Looters wanted to get free shit and steal. Common criminals. Deadly force should be used.

What the psychotic is incapable of processing, refuses to acknowledge, is that you have absolutely no right to assemble and then riot, or in any fashion project violence! 1st amendment is meaningless once the bricks start flying, matters not one jot whether 85% of thousands of assembled human beings are behaving lawfully, once any percentage of that assembly degrades into violent insurrection, then all must be considered as such, doubly so when 100% of the assembly flatly refuse lawful order to disperse! 1st amendment is not your ticket to wreak havoc and violence upon community, it ends at precisely the moment of discernible criminal/insurrectionist degradation!

The psychotic seems to think Fox news an unacceptable source, which indicates it relies upon truly unacceptable sources, such as CNN, MSNBC, and others, all proven propagandists of the raging far left! CNN & MSNBC are so brazen in their criminal incitement of the mob they both could legally be shuttered as demonstrably insurrectionist, indeed I consider it horrifying that the DOJ has not shuttered them both! I would suggest the psychotic refer directly to the Park Services own press release, or is the psychotic so broken from reality it believes they are also an unacceptable source?

 

[Care4all]

The park service acknowledges it used pepper spray balls

Police Say Pepper Balls Used to Clear Protesters For Trump Walk

The U.S. Park Police acknowledged that its officers used smoke and irritating pepper agents to clear protesters outside the White House on Monday before President Donald Trump walked to a historic church that was damaged by arson.

www.bloomberg.com

The U.S. Park Police acknowledged that its officers used smoke and irritating pepper agents to clear protesters outside the White House on Monday before President Donald Trump walked to a historic church that was damaged by arson.



The police agency denied in a statement on Tuesday that it used “tear gas” to disperse the protesters, who it claimed -- in contradiction to news coverage of the event -- had attacked its officers.

“Tear gas” is a colloquial term used to describe a variety of irritating crowd-control agents, including pepper spray.

 

[OldLady]

As a matter of record, the media story that Trump had rioters tear gassed so he could go to the church in D.C. is also false. The Park Police said they had no idea Trump was coming. They asked the rioters three times to leave as they were violating curfew, destroying property, and attacking law enforcement. They did not leave so the Park service took the action they did.

Completely fake news the media keeps repeating.


Key quote from the story: "But on Tuesday morning, Park Police sources told WTOP that this was not the case, arguing that the protesters were not all peaceful, that tear gas was not used, and that officers did not know of Trump’s visit to the house of worship. The outlet went on to report that the crowd was pushed back when officers were being hit with water bottles and that protesters had climbed onto the top of a structure at the north end of Lafayette Square that had been attacked and burned a day earlier.”

Park Police say DC protesters cleared because they attacked cops, not because of Trump church visit: report

Park Police reportedly say protesters near the White House were pushed back by riot police on Monday evening because they were attacking police officers, not because of a visit by President Trump to a nearby church that had been set alight the night before.

www.foxnews.com

Liberal MSM once again making up fake stories about OUR President.

I believe what the witness who was THERE says. He might have been wrong about tear gas. It doesn't matter so much if it was smoke or tear gas (and what are "pepper balls?"), but if it weren't peaceful at the time, I believe he would have said so. Last night, the crowd throwing water bottles was ignored.
Maybe Trump needs to have the military sent in, since he appears to be going "soft" on the protesters. Damned Democrat. He can't control shit, I guess.

As a matter of record, the media story that Trump had rioters tear gassed so he could go to the church in D.C. is also false. The Park Police said they had no idea Trump was coming. They asked the rioters three times to leave as they were violating curfew, destroying property, and attacking law enforcement. They did not leave so the Park service took the action they did.

Completely fake news the media keeps repeating.


Key quote from the story: "But on Tuesday morning, Park Police sources told WTOP that this was not the case, arguing that the protesters were not all peaceful, that tear gas was not used, and that officers did not know of Trump’s visit to the house of worship. The outlet went on to report that the crowd was pushed back when officers were being hit with water bottles and that protesters had climbed onto the top of a structure at the north end of Lafayette Square that had been attacked and burned a day earlier.”

Park Police say DC protesters cleared because they attacked cops, not because of Trump church visit: report

Park Police reportedly say protesters near the White House were pushed back by riot police on Monday evening because they were attacking police officers, not because of a visit by President Trump to a nearby church that had been set alight the night before.

www.foxnews.com

Are these the same people who claimed Trump’s inauguration crowd was bigger than Obama’s?

Well, you DO have a point there.

 

[berg80]

Law enforcement and national security veterans rebuke militarized response to protests

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/paloma/daily-202/2020/06/03/daily-202-law-enforcement-and-national-security-veterans-rebuke-militarized-response-to-protests/5ed72b70602ff12947e82a5d/?utm_campaign=wp_the_daily_202&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_daily202

“I cannot remain silent,” said retired Navy Adm. Mike Mullen, the former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff under George W. Bush and Barack Obama. “Our fellow citizens are not the enemy, and must never become so.” Mullen writes in the Atlantic that he was “sickened” to watch security personnel clear a path for a presidential photo op: “I have to date been reticent to speak out on issues surrounding President Trump's leadership, but we are at an inflection point … Whatever Trump's goal in conducting his visit, he laid bare his disdain for the rights of peaceful protest in this country, gave succor to the leaders of other countries who take comfort in our domestic strife, and risked further politicizing the men and women of our armed forces. … Too many foreign and domestic policy choices have become militarized; too many military missions have become politicized.”

Bush himself released a rare statement to not just commend Americans demonstrating against racial injustice but criticize those who try to silence them. “There is a better way — the way of empathy, and shared commitment, and bold action, and a peace rooted in justice,” said the former president, not mentioning Trump by name. No stranger to protests during his two terms, Bush said he’s “anguished” by George Floyd’s death in police custody in Minneapolis. And he urged white Americans to seek ways to support, listen and understand black Americans who still face “disturbing” bigotry.

 

[Dick Foster]

As a matter of record, the media story that Trump had rioters tear gassed so he could go to the church in D.C. is also false. The Park Police said they had no idea Trump was coming. They asked the rioters three times to leave as they were violating curfew, destroying property, and attacking law enforcement. They did not leave so the Park service took the action they did.

Completely fake news the media keeps repeating.


Key quote from the story: "But on Tuesday morning, Park Police sources told WTOP that this was not the case, arguing that the protesters were not all peaceful, that tear gas was not used, and that officers did not know of Trump’s visit to the house of worship. The outlet went on to report that the crowd was pushed back when officers were being hit with water bottles and that protesters had climbed onto the top of a structure at the north end of Lafayette Square that had been attacked and burned a day earlier.”

Park Police say DC protesters cleared because they attacked cops, not because of Trump church visit: report

Park Police reportedly say protesters near the White House were pushed back by riot police on Monday evening because they were attacking police officers, not because of a visit by President Trump to a nearby church that had been set alight the night before.

www.foxnews.com

It's gotten to the point that one can almost take it on faith that everything MSM reports is a lie and fake news from the get go. They are no longer reliable or credible sources of information, so why are we aollowing our nation's bandwidth to be pissed away for those assholes to run ads if there is no public benefit?

 

[OldLady]

Law enforcement and national security veterans rebuke militarized response to protests

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/paloma/daily-202/2020/06/03/daily-202-law-enforcement-and-national-security-veterans-rebuke-militarized-response-to-protests/5ed72b70602ff12947e82a5d/?utm_campaign=wp_the_daily_202&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_daily202

“I cannot remain silent,” said retired Navy Adm. Mike Mullen, the former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff under George W. Bush and Barack Obama. “Our fellow citizens are not the enemy, and must never become so.” Mullen writes in the Atlantic that he was “sickened” to watch security personnel clear a path for a presidential photo op: “I have to date been reticent to speak out on issues surrounding President Trump's leadership, but we are at an inflection point … Whatever Trump's goal in conducting his visit, he laid bare his disdain for the rights of peaceful protest in this country, gave succor to the leaders of other countries who take comfort in our domestic strife, and risked further politicizing the men and women of our armed forces. … Too many foreign and domestic policy choices have become militarized; too many military missions have become politicized.”

Bush himself released a rare statement to not just commend Americans demonstrating against racial injustice but criticize those who try to silence them. “There is a better way — the way of empathy, and shared commitment, and bold action, and a peace rooted in justice,” said the former president, not mentioning Trump by name. No stranger to protests during his two terms, Bush said he’s “anguished” by George Floyd’s death in police custody in Minneapolis. And he urged white Americans to seek ways to support, listen and understand black Americans who still face “disturbing” bigotry.

Good for Bush!

 

[OldLady]

My first reaction when Welfare Queen opened this thread was to support LE trying to control the crowd. But as all the rest of the story comes out, it sounds like the crowd was truly manhandled. Using force against protesters who are peacefully airing their grievances and not violating any agreed upon arrangements (like curfew) is ugly. It didn't stop them from coming back yesterday for the largest protest yet. Escalating force is NOT going to solve this problem. It seems to FEED it.

 

[BULLDOG]

As a matter of record, the media story that Trump had rioters tear gassed so he could go to the church in D.C. is also false. The Park Police said they had no idea Trump was coming. They asked the rioters three times to leave as they were violating curfew, destroying property, and attacking law enforcement. They did not leave so the Park service took the action they did.

Completely fake news the media keeps repeating.


Key quote from the story: "But on Tuesday morning, Park Police sources told WTOP that this was not the case, arguing that the protesters were not all peaceful, that tear gas was not used, and that officers did not know of Trump’s visit to the house of worship. The outlet went on to report that the crowd was pushed back when officers were being hit with water bottles and that protesters had climbed onto the top of a structure at the north end of Lafayette Square that had been attacked and burned a day earlier.”

Park Police say DC protesters cleared because they attacked cops, not because of Trump church visit: report

Park Police reportedly say protesters near the White House were pushed back by riot police on Monday evening because they were attacking police officers, not because of a visit by President Trump to a nearby church that had been set alight the night before.

www.foxnews.com

Liar. The curfew didn't start until 7:00 PM. They fired off tear gas at 6:30.

Because they were being pelted with debris.

LIAR

You Trump supporters should get your stories strait. The OP said it was past curfew. Of course that was a lie. I was watching a live feed when the cops started clearing the park. There wasn't any sign of anything being thrown until Trump's attack on innocent protesters.

It was 25 minutes before the crowd was going to be ordered to leave.
That's why Trump did it then, to tear gas them while they were still there.

prove it.

The timeline is already proven.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

 

[Bush92]

As a matter of record, the media story that Trump had rioters tear gassed so he could go to the church in D.C. is also false. The Park Police said they had no idea Trump was coming. They asked the rioters three times to leave as they were violating curfew, destroying property, and attacking law enforcement. They did not leave so the Park service took the action they did.

Completely fake news the media keeps repeating.


Key quote from the story: "But on Tuesday morning, Park Police sources told WTOP that this was not the case, arguing that the protesters were not all peaceful, that tear gas was not used, and that officers did not know of Trump’s visit to the house of worship. The outlet went on to report that the crowd was pushed back when officers were being hit with water bottles and that protesters had climbed onto the top of a structure at the north end of Lafayette Square that had been attacked and burned a day earlier.”

Park Police say DC protesters cleared because they attacked cops, not because of Trump church visit: report

Park Police reportedly say protesters near the White House were pushed back by riot police on Monday evening because they were attacking police officers, not because of a visit by President Trump to a nearby church that had been set alight the night before.

www.foxnews.com

Liberal MSM once again making up fake stories about OUR President.

I believe what the witness who was THERE says. He might have been wrong about tear gas. It doesn't matter so much if it was smoke or tear gas (and what are "pepper balls?"), but if it weren't peaceful at the time, I believe he would have said so. Last night, the crowd throwing water bottles was ignored.
Maybe Trump needs to have the military sent in, since he appears to be going "soft" on the protesters. Damned Democrat. He can't control shit, I guess.

As a matter of record, the media story that Trump had rioters tear gassed so he could go to the church in D.C. is also false. The Park Police said they had no idea Trump was coming. They asked the rioters three times to leave as they were violating curfew, destroying property, and attacking law enforcement. They did not leave so the Park service took the action they did.

Completely fake news the media keeps repeating.


Key quote from the story: "But on Tuesday morning, Park Police sources told WTOP that this was not the case, arguing that the protesters were not all peaceful, that tear gas was not used, and that officers did not know of Trump’s visit to the house of worship. The outlet went on to report that the crowd was pushed back when officers were being hit with water bottles and that protesters had climbed onto the top of a structure at the north end of Lafayette Square that had been attacked and burned a day earlier.”

Park Police say DC protesters cleared because they attacked cops, not because of Trump church visit: report

Park Police reportedly say protesters near the White House were pushed back by riot police on Monday evening because they were attacking police officers, not because of a visit by President Trump to a nearby church that had been set alight the night before.

www.foxnews.com

Are these the same people who claimed Trump’s inauguration crowd was bigger than Obama’s?

Well, you DO have a point there.

They had to be out by the 7:00PM curfew. Not one minute after. Protesters are just common criminals waiting for a chance to loot. Pull your head out of the media bubble that works in concert with Democratic Party to keep race issue brewing in the United States. I bet liberal media didn't report on black officers in Atlanta that taxed to black college students. Doesn't fit the bullshit narrative of white officers using force on black criminals like Michael "Fat Ass"Brown.

 

[Bush92]

As a matter of record, the media story that Trump had rioters tear gassed so he could go to the church in D.C. is also false. The Park Police said they had no idea Trump was coming. They asked the rioters three times to leave as they were violating curfew, destroying property, and attacking law enforcement. They did not leave so the Park service took the action they did.

Completely fake news the media keeps repeating.


Key quote from the story: "But on Tuesday morning, Park Police sources told WTOP that this was not the case, arguing that the protesters were not all peaceful, that tear gas was not used, and that officers did not know of Trump’s visit to the house of worship. The outlet went on to report that the crowd was pushed back when officers were being hit with water bottles and that protesters had climbed onto the top of a structure at the north end of Lafayette Square that had been attacked and burned a day earlier.”

Park Police say DC protesters cleared because they attacked cops, not because of Trump church visit: report

Park Police reportedly say protesters near the White House were pushed back by riot police on Monday evening because they were attacking police officers, not because of a visit by President Trump to a nearby church that had been set alight the night before.

www.foxnews.com

Liar. The curfew didn't start until 7:00 PM. They fired off tear gas at 6:30.

Because they were being pelted with debris.

LIAR

You Trump supporters should get your stories strait. The OP said it was past curfew. Of course that was a lie. I was watching a live feed when the cops started clearing the park. There wasn't any sign of anything being thrown until Trump's attack on innocent protesters.

It was 25 minutes before the crowd was going to be ordered to leave.
That's why Trump did it then, to tear gas them while they were still there.

prove it.

The timeline is already proven.

They had to have their asses out by 7:00PM...not one minute after. 99.99% of these so called protest have just been excuses

No tear gas was used. You buy into liberal media narrative. It was smoke grenades. God you people are dumb.

We are past that now. There is overwhelming video evidence and personal accounts of people being effected by tear gas.

The question that remains is will anyone be held accountable for the use of excessive force and the violation of the protester's constitutional rights? Not to mention Trump's callous use of a church and the bible as backdrop for a piece of propaganda.

it was pepper gas, the natural form of tearing gas, but not the chemical form tear gas made in a lab.... there is little difference, between the two....man made vs natural.


Tear Gas vs. Pepper Spray. The two biggest differences between tear gas spray and pepper spray are their chemical makeup and delivery methods. Pepper spray (sometimes referred to as “OC spray“) is a combination of natural chemicals, whereas tear gas (also called “CS gas“) comes from man-made compounds.
Tear Gas vs. Pepper Spray – Aftermath Services

Thanks for validating my post...it was not a choking agent. Fucking liberals.

 

[Dragonlady]

As a matter of record, the media story that Trump had rioters tear gassed so he could go to the church in D.C. is also false. The Park Police said they had no idea Trump was coming. They asked the rioters three times to leave as they were violating curfew, destroying property, and attacking law enforcement. They did not leave so the Park service took the action they did.

Completely fake news the media keeps repeating.


Key quote from the story: "But on Tuesday morning, Park Police sources told WTOP that this was not the case, arguing that the protesters were not all peaceful, that tear gas was not used, and that officers did not know of Trump’s visit to the house of worship. The outlet went on to report that the crowd was pushed back when officers were being hit with water bottles and that protesters had climbed onto the top of a structure at the north end of Lafayette Square that had been attacked and burned a day earlier.”

Park Police say DC protesters cleared because they attacked cops, not because of Trump church visit: report

Park Police reportedly say protesters near the White House were pushed back by riot police on Monday evening because they were attacking police officers, not because of a visit by President Trump to a nearby church that had been set alight the night before.

www.foxnews.com

Liar. The curfew didn't start until 7:00 PM. They fired off tear gas at 6:30.

Because they were being pelted with debris.

LIAR

You Trump supporters should get your stories strait. The OP said it was past curfew. Of course that was a lie. I was watching a live feed when the cops started clearing the park. There wasn't any sign of anything being thrown until Trump's attack on innocent protesters.

A live feed does not see everything, it sees one perspective. Don't be such a moron.

Don't believe your eyes and ears. Don't believe the Pastor, the press, or the citizens. Believe what Donald Trump tells you.

And then you tell us that we're being "morons". Only a moron continues to believe the people who are directly employed by Donald J. Trump, given that one of the job requirements of working for Donald Trump is to never contradict his lies.

 

[Dragonlady]

As a matter of record, the media story that Trump had rioters tear gassed so he could go to the church in D.C. is also false. The Park Police said they had no idea Trump was coming. They asked the rioters three times to leave as they were violating curfew, destroying property, and attacking law enforcement. They did not leave so the Park service took the action they did.

Completely fake news the media keeps repeating.


Key quote from the story: "But on Tuesday morning, Park Police sources told WTOP that this was not the case, arguing that the protesters were not all peaceful, that tear gas was not used, and that officers did not know of Trump’s visit to the house of worship. The outlet went on to report that the crowd was pushed back when officers were being hit with water bottles and that protesters had climbed onto the top of a structure at the north end of Lafayette Square that had been attacked and burned a day earlier.”

Park Police say DC protesters cleared because they attacked cops, not because of Trump church visit: report

Park Police reportedly say protesters near the White House were pushed back by riot police on Monday evening because they were attacking police officers, not because of a visit by President Trump to a nearby church that had been set alight the night before.

www.foxnews.com

Liar. The curfew didn't start until 7:00 PM. They fired off tear gas at 6:30.

Because they were being pelted with debris.

LIAR

You Trump supporters should get your stories strait. The OP said it was past curfew. Of course that was a lie. I was watching a live feed when the cops started clearing the park. There wasn't any sign of anything being thrown until Trump's attack on innocent protesters.

It was 25 minutes before the crowd was going to be ordered to leave.
That's why Trump did it then, to tear gas them while they were still there.

prove it.

The timeline is already proven.

They had to have their asses out by 7:00PM...not one minute after. 99.99% of these so called protest have just been excuses

No tear gas was used. You buy into liberal media narrative. It was smoke grenades. God you people are dumb.

We are past that now. There is overwhelming video evidence and personal accounts of people being effected by tear gas.

The question that remains is will anyone be held accountable for the use of excessive force and the violation of the protester's constitutional rights? Not to mention Trump's callous use of a church and the bible as backdrop for a piece of propaganda.

it was pepper gas, the natural form of tearing gas, but not the chemical form tear gas made in a lab.... there is little difference, between the two....man made vs natural.


Tear Gas vs. Pepper Spray. The two biggest differences between tear gas spray and pepper spray are their chemical makeup and delivery methods. Pepper spray (sometimes referred to as “OC spray“) is a combination of natural chemicals, whereas tear gas (also called “CS gas“) comes from man-made compounds.
Tear Gas vs. Pepper Spray – Aftermath Services

Thanks for validating my post...it was not a choking agent. Fucking liberals.

You are aware the Mark Esper has apologized for the manner in which the military cleared the park last night. He said it was wrong for the President to use troops, flash bombs, and field of combat tactics to break up a peaceful demonstration, and he believes that using the military to stop these marches is wrong.

Sec. Esper claims he had no idea that the President was going to use the military to clear the park for a photo op, and that this was wrong.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/06/03/george-floyd-protests-live-updates/

 

[Bush92]

As a matter of record, the media story that Trump had rioters tear gassed so he could go to the church in D.C. is also false. The Park Police said they had no idea Trump was coming. They asked the rioters three times to leave as they were violating curfew, destroying property, and attacking law enforcement. They did not leave so the Park service took the action they did.

Completely fake news the media keeps repeating.


Key quote from the story: "But on Tuesday morning, Park Police sources told WTOP that this was not the case, arguing that the protesters were not all peaceful, that tear gas was not used, and that officers did not know of Trump’s visit to the house of worship. The outlet went on to report that the crowd was pushed back when officers were being hit with water bottles and that protesters had climbed onto the top of a structure at the north end of Lafayette Square that had been attacked and burned a day earlier.”

Park Police say DC protesters cleared because they attacked cops, not because of Trump church visit: report

Park Police reportedly say protesters near the White House were pushed back by riot police on Monday evening because they were attacking police officers, not because of a visit by President Trump to a nearby church that had been set alight the night before.

www.foxnews.com

Liar. The curfew didn't start until 7:00 PM. They fired off tear gas at 6:30.

Because they were being pelted with debris.

LIAR

You Trump supporters should get your stories strait. The OP said it was past curfew. Of course that was a lie. I was watching a live feed when the cops started clearing the park. There wasn't any sign of anything being thrown until Trump's attack on innocent protesters.

It was 25 minutes before the crowd was going to be ordered to leave.
That's why Trump did it then, to tear gas them while they were still there.

prove it.

The timeline is already proven.

They had to have their asses out by 7:00PM...not one minute after. 99.99% of these so called protest have just been excuses

No tear gas was used. You buy into liberal media narrative. It was smoke grenades. God you people are dumb.

We are past that now. There is overwhelming video evidence and personal accounts of people being effected by tear gas.

The question that remains is will anyone be held accountable for the use of excessive force and the violation of the protester's constitutional rights? Not to mention Trump's callous use of a church and the bible as backdrop for a piece of propaganda.

it was pepper gas, the natural form of tearing gas, but not the chemical form tear gas made in a lab.... there is little difference, between the two....man made vs natural.


Tear Gas vs. Pepper Spray. The two biggest differences between tear gas spray and pepper spray are their chemical makeup and delivery methods. Pepper spray (sometimes referred to as “OC spray“) is a combination of natural chemicals, whereas tear gas (also called “CS gas“) comes from man-made compounds.
Tear Gas vs. Pepper Spray – Aftermath Services

Thanks for validating my post...it was not a choking agent. Fucking liberals.

You are aware the Mark Esper has apologized for the manner in which the military cleared the park last night. He said it was wrong for the President to use troops, flash bombs, and field of combat tactics to break up a peaceful demonstration, and he believes that using the military to stop these marches is wrong.

Sec. Esper claims he had no idea that the President was going to use the military to clear the park for a photo op, and that this was wrong.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/06/03/george-floyd-protests-live-updates/

Esper is misguided and show me where Trump issued the order? We need water cannon and live rounds to deal with common criminals. They had to be out by 7:00PM. Looks like Esper is going to get his ass fired.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Another quote from the reporter.



Early Tuesday, a US Park Police source told WTOP the agency was unaware of the President's upcoming walk, and that USPP had fired smoke canisters, rather than tear gas. DC Police Chief Peter Newsham said Tues his agency hadn't used tear gas to clear Lafayette Park. Asked several

The news said William Barr spoke with park police ahead of time about the President's visit.

I read that as well after I posted this. I do not know if it is true. I do know tear gas was not used and Trump never told the Park police to go after protesters. Neither did Barr. Fake news.

not much difference between tear gas and pepper spray.... most people call pepper spray disbursement tear gas... tear gas is a more common use term that covers both in most people's mind....


Is Pepper Spray the same as tear gas?

Pepper Spray. The two biggest differences between tear gas spray and pepper spray are their chemical makeup and delivery methods. Pepper spray (sometimes referred to as “OC spray“) is a combination of natural chemicals, whereas tear gas (also called “CS gas“) comes from man-made compounds.

They did not use pepper spray either. They used smoke canisters. That is what they said. I provided the link with direct quotes from the Park police. This is not difficult. Just read what they said.

Also, Trump never directed the Park police to go after protesters. Neither did Barr. Fake news. And the media is still telling the same lies even though the police on the scene directly contradict the media.

i was just skimming this thread and I believe one of the articles you or someone else posted said they did use pepper spray, not tear gas.

let me see if I can find it....

here ya go.... Park police SAID smoke canisters AND PEPPER BALLS

NEW: Smoke canisters and pepper balls, but United States Park Police acting Chief Gregory T. Monahan says “No tear gas was used by USPP officers or other assisting law enforcement partners to close the area at Lafayette Park.”

I just said that above your post. That is neither tear gas (which the media is still claiming) or pepper spray. Believe the media or believe the cops on the scene. Up to you.

So then your argument is purely semantical, WelfareQueen (lol). Whether it was tear gas or mace, bullets or pepper balls, all that shit is academic.

The park police didn't use flowers, unicorns and great intentions to disperse protestors either. Who gives a flying fuck what kind of non lethal projectiles were used to do so, that's a pointless takeaway.

The point is they did it for some useless photo op.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Orange Man STILL bad.

Yep. Orange bag of shit is the worst.

He is still your president!

He is still your president!

 

[Norman]

As a matter of record, the media story that Trump had rioters tear gassed so he could go to the church in D.C. is also false. The Park Police said they had no idea Trump was coming. They asked the rioters three times to leave as they were violating curfew, destroying property, and attacking law enforcement. They did not leave so the Park service took the action they did.

Completely fake news the media keeps repeating.


Key quote from the story: "But on Tuesday morning, Park Police sources told WTOP that this was not the case, arguing that the protesters were not all peaceful, that tear gas was not used, and that officers did not know of Trump’s visit to the house of worship. The outlet went on to report that the crowd was pushed back when officers were being hit with water bottles and that protesters had climbed onto the top of a structure at the north end of Lafayette Square that had been attacked and burned a day earlier.”

Park Police say DC protesters cleared because they attacked cops, not because of Trump church visit: report

Park Police reportedly say protesters near the White House were pushed back by riot police on Monday evening because they were attacking police officers, not because of a visit by President Trump to a nearby church that had been set alight the night before.

www.foxnews.com

No one is surprised. They are now making the news rather than reporting them. Fake is fake...

Not that I care, 4th grade gossip always was better than the nonstory.

 

[iceberg]

As a matter of record, the media story that Trump had rioters tear gassed so he could go to the church in D.C. is also false. The Park Police said they had no idea Trump was coming. They asked the rioters three times to leave as they were violating curfew, destroying property, and attacking law enforcement. They did not leave so the Park service took the action they did.

Completely fake news the media keeps repeating.


Key quote from the story: "But on Tuesday morning, Park Police sources told WTOP that this was not the case, arguing that the protesters were not all peaceful, that tear gas was not used, and that officers did not know of Trump’s visit to the house of worship. The outlet went on to report that the crowd was pushed back when officers were being hit with water bottles and that protesters had climbed onto the top of a structure at the north end of Lafayette Square that had been attacked and burned a day earlier.”

Park Police say DC protesters cleared because they attacked cops, not because of Trump church visit: report

Park Police reportedly say protesters near the White House were pushed back by riot police on Monday evening because they were attacking police officers, not because of a visit by President Trump to a nearby church that had been set alight the night before.

www.foxnews.com

Liar. The curfew didn't start until 7:00 PM. They fired off tear gas at 6:30.

Because they were being pelted with debris.

LIAR

You Trump supporters should get your stories strait. The OP said it was past curfew. Of course that was a lie. I was watching a live feed when the cops started clearing the park. There wasn't any sign of anything being thrown until Trump's attack on innocent protesters.

A live feed does not see everything, it sees one perspective. Don't be such a moron.

Don't believe your eyes and ears. Don't believe the Pastor, the press, or the citizens. Believe what Donald Trump tells you.

And then you tell us that we're being "morons". Only a moron continues to believe the people who are directly employed by Donald J. Trump, given that one of the job requirements of working for Donald Trump is to never contradict his lies.

heh - you ever even TRY to follow your own advice?

no. didn't think so.

 

[Bush92]

My first reaction when Welfare Queen opened this thread was to support LE trying to control the crowd. But as all the rest of the story comes out, it sounds like the crowd was truly manhandled. Using force against protesters who are peacefully airing their grievances and not violating any agreed upon arrangements (like curfew) is ugly. It didn't stop them from coming back yesterday for the largest protest yet. Escalating force is NOT going to solve this problem. It seems to FEED it.

What about all the other cities that are burning? Why would law enforcement not feel that it would break out in DC as well?

 

[jknowgood]

Orange Man STILL bad.

Yep. Orange bag of shit is the worst.

He is still your president!

He is still your president!

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