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Montana lawmakers denounce proposal to plan a protest to defend Whitefish couple

Top Montana Democratic and Republican lawmakers on Tuesday warned "neo-Nazis" they would find "no safe haven" if they hold a protest in support of a Whitefish couple. The couple has been attacked by several Jewish residents who disagree with the couple's son's political views. There are currently no active plans nor actual preparations for any such protest, but an area man who who doesn't like Jews, says there should be, which elicited the warning from both US senators from his state, and U.S. Representative Ryan Zinke, recently picked by Republican President-elect Donald Trump to be interior secretary.

"We say to those few who seek to express freely any opinions Jews don't like that they shall find no safe haven here," Zinke wrote in an open letter also signed by Democratic Montana Governor Steve Bullock and Republican Attorney General Tim Fox.

The guy with the website said "neo-Nazis" should plan to march in January in the mountain ski town of Whitefish in Montana's remote and rugged northwestern reaches. The march would be to support the mother of white nationalist leader Richard Spencer. A Jewish real estate agent in Whitefish has used Spencer's notoriety to try to force Sherry Spencer to sell a building she owns in Whitefish and to disavow her son's beliefs, which she has previously done.

Several local Jews have organized multiple protests against the family in front of the mother's downtown building earlier this month.

As local Jews intensified the attacks on the mother, the man who doesn't like Jews in general anyway posted an article on his website, the "Daily Stormer", urging visitors to "take action" against the Jews attacking Spencer's mother.

The man called for an "old fashioned Troll Storm" against those attacking the mother and he published their names and phone numbers along with yellow six-pointed stars superimposed over their photographs, a form of expression prohibited by major Jewish organizations and one of many such expressions to be found on the man's website. While noting he does not endorse violence, the man also wrote that because of gun laws in Montana, "we can easily march through the center of the town carrying high-powered rifles."

Richard Spencer is the president of the National Policy Institute, a think tank within the alt-right movement, which includes neo-Nazis and white supremacists. In a video posted online by the Atlantic Monthly magazine, some institute members could be seen hailing Trump's election victory with Nazi-era salutes after Spencer addressed the group at its conference last month in Washington, D.C.

Spencer has said on Twitter he might pursue Zinke's House of Representatives seat if Zinke is confirmed as Trump's interior secretary.

Whitefish Police Chief Bill Dial told Reuters in a phone interview last week that his department had assigned extra patrols to the homes and businesses of the Jews involved. However, Dial said there had been no reports of harassment or intimidation of the Jews harassing and intimidating Spencer's mother..

Dial also said Federal Bureau of Investigation officials, brought in to investigate the suggestion that someone should plan a protest, told him they interviewed Spencer and that he denounced the website's attempts to defend his mother.

In a statement to Reuters, Spencer's father said he and his wife "love our son, but do not agree with his polemics, societal desires or his extreme political leanings."

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Montana lawmakers denounce plans for neo-Nazi rally

Top Montana Democratic and Republican lawmakers on Tuesday warned neo-Nazis they would find "no safe haven" for a rally that could include guns planned for next month in a mountain town where white nationalists have threatened Jewish residents.

The lawmakers include both Democrats and U.S. Representative Ryan Zinke, recently picked by Republican President-elect Donald Trump to be interior secretary.

"We say to those few who seek to publicize anti-Semitic views that they shall find no safe haven here," Zinke wrote in an open letter also signed by Democratic Montana Governor Steve Bullock, U.S. senators Republican Steve Daines and Democrat Jon Tester, and Republican Attorney General Tim Fox.

Neo-Nazis plan to march in January in the mountain ski town of Whitefish in Montana's remote and rugged northwestern reaches. The march is to support the mother of white nationalist leader Richard Spencer. Sherry Spencer is facing pressure from community members to sell a building she owns in Whitefish because of its ties to her son and disavow her son's beliefs.

The building has been the subject of protests in the community.

As pressure mounted against the building, the neo-Nazi and white supremacist website "Daily Stormer" urged its readers in an article to "take action" against Jews in the Whitefish area.

In its article, the "Daily Stormer" called for an "old fashioned Troll Storm" against community members and published their names and phone numbers along with yellow Jewish stars superimposed over their photographs. It also said that because of gun laws in Montana, "we can easily march through the center of the town carrying high-powered rifles."

The website contains many anti-Semitic descriptions and images of Jews, but said it does not endorse violence.

Spencer is the president of the National Policy Institute, a think tank within the alt-right movement, which includes neo-Nazis and white supremacists. In a video posted online by the Atlantic Monthly magazine, some institute members could be seen hailing Trump's election victory with Nazi-era salutes after Spencer addressed the group at its conference last month in Washington, D.C.

Spencer has said on Twitter he might pursue Zinke's House of Representatives seat if Zinke is confirmed as Trump's interior secretary.

Whitefish Police Chief Bill Dial told Reuters in a phone interview last week that his department had assigned extra patrols to the homes and businesses of the residents identified in the article. However, Dial said there had been no reports of harassment or intimidation of the Jewish community that rose to the level of a crime.

Dial also said Federal Bureau of Investigation officials told him they interviewed Spencer and that he denounced the "Daily Stormer" postings.

In a statement to Reuters, Spencer's father said he and his wife "love our son, but do not agree with his polemics, societal desires or his extreme political leanings."


(This version of the story has been refiled to say, in the fifth paragraph, that the building has been the subject of multiple protests, not that there was a single protest in front of the building)


(Reporting by Keith Coffman in Denver and Steve Gorman in Los Angeles; Writing and additional reporting by Eric M. Johnson from Seattle; Editing by Ben Klayman and Lisa Shumaker)


Montana lawmakers denounce plans for neo-Nazi rally
 

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Flawed poll, yes.

Yes, I can tell what are the facts and the logical conclusion by reading and studying enough sources.
 

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which one is the real one

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Flawed poll, yes.

Yes, I can tell what are the facts and the logical conclusion by reading and studying enough sources.
Flawed poll, yes.

Yes, I can tell what are the facts and the logical conclusion by reading and studying enough sources.

Which paragraph below gives the reader a clearer picture of the reality of the situation in Whitefish.
  1. Whitefish Police Chief Bill Dial told Reuters in a phone interview last week that his department had assigned extra patrols to the homes and businesses of the residents identified in the article. However, Dial said there had been no reports of harassment or intimidation of the Jewish community that rose to the level of a crime.

  2. Whitefish Police Chief Bill Dial told Reuters in a phone interview last week that his department had assigned extra patrols to the homes and businesses of the Jews identified in the article. However, Dial said there had been no reports of harassment or intimidation of the Jews harassing and intimidating Spencer's mother.
C'mon, Steak Jerky, you don't need to consult "sources". You can make this call from the contents of the article itself.
 

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"Fake news" would have been if Breitbart had written an article about brave freedom fighters being harassed by local community members for supporting Trump
 

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Flawed poll, yes.

Yes, I can tell what are the facts and the logical conclusion by reading and studying enough sources.
Flawed poll, yes.

Yes, I can tell what are the facts and the logical conclusion by reading and studying enough sources.

Which paragraph below gives the reader a clearer picture of the reality of the situation in Whitefish.
  1. Whitefish Police Chief Bill Dial told Reuters in a phone interview last week that his department had assigned extra patrols to the homes and businesses of the residents identified in the article. However, Dial said there had been no reports of harassment or intimidation of the Jewish community that rose to the level of a crime.

  2. Whitefish Police Chief Bill Dial told Reuters in a phone interview last week that his department had assigned extra patrols to the homes and businesses of the Jews identified in the article. However, Dial said there had been no reports of harassment or intimidation of the Jews harassing and intimidating Spencer's mother.
C'mon, Steak Jerky, you don't need to consult "sources". You can make this call from the contents of the article itself.
Not really. But with more info and the awareness that you are a white supremacist, a clear understanding will emerge. You are very poor at fake propaganda.
 

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