AtheistBuddah
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The fool says there is no GOD. Why? Because he loves sin and allows satan to blind him. Sad to see.I thought Santa Clause WAS the atheists alternative to Christmas.....It has been said by many Christians that one of the primary reasons for someone being an atheist and saying that they don't believe is because they don't want to believe. They don't want to ask the hard question "What if I'm wrong?" because they can't accept the implications of that questioning. They claim that we as atheists take the easy way out but I argue that it is just the opposite. Christians downright refuse to humor any kind of questioning when it comes to their belief. They refuse to look inside themselves and ask "What if there is no God?" because they are terrified of the implications of that question. They claim we are afraid of hell but in fact it is they who are afraid of oblivion. Of nonexistence. Understandably so. The idea of ceasing to exist is unpleasant to say the least. That is why being an atheist is far from the easy way out.
As an atheist you look that unpleasant reality in the face, swallow your fear and accept it and live your life to its fullest. Being a Christian is a way of ignoring the fact that the world is an unpleasant and often unjust place where some people live their whole lives in despair before their flame of consciousness goes out forever. This world can be cruel and unfair but as atheists we accept that it's the only one we are ever going to get and that motivates us to fight our hardest to make it a better and brighter one. For our sake and for the sake of our children. We don't turn away from reality and turn a wishful eye to an afterlife that isn't going to happen.
You are doing to others what you complain others are doing to you.
I am doing no such thing. I do not complain about the criticism of my ideas in fact I welcome and cherish it. I welcome Christians to make the same criticizing statements about my views because that is a vital part of how a free society works. What I complain about is when my rights and the rights of other minorities are infringed upon by the Christian majority in the name of their specific values.
Yes, you are. You are taking an entire class of people and sticking them into a little box and slapping a label on it. You are acting in exactly the same manner as the people you are complaining about.
The fundamental difference is that I am not trying to get laws passed that limit their freedom of expression.
I have no idea what you personally might be doing, but to say Atheists have not tried to do this is flat wrong. In fact, most of the attempts to limit freedom of expression I can think of have come from either Atheists or the left.
We want an Atheist display next to your Christmas displays. We want a booth next to Santa to talk to all the kids that don't believe in Santa or Xmas. And we want to put up right next to the Prayer you have in our school a sign that says THERE IS NO GOD and a Website where students can go see that their parents and churches have quite possibly been feeding them a fairy tale for the last 3-18 years. Let them decide after seeing both sides of the argument. But instead it is you who wouldn't dare let us have a place in society because we would expose your lie.
So don't cry about us. We sit quietly and let your religious holidays go by and some of us even participate. I like Easter and Xmas for the family. I skip church. The people bore me. Should I find a new church? Why? Am I doing it because I believe in God or because I want to meet new friends and have fun?
For some they believe because they want to believe. They don't want to be the odd ball in the flock. They enjoy church and the people at church. Met their wives or husbands at church. I know there is a lot of good that comes out of this cult but a lot of bad comes too. Like Ghandi said. Christ sounded like a good man. It's Christians that he had a problem with. AGREED!
I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that the Santa remark was joke.
Santa is like a training bra for future atheists.
It would appear not.
No? What are the central lesson's of Santa Claus?
1. People love a good bullshit story if it makes them feel good.
2. There's no such thing as a free lunch.
Pretty much the atheist credo.
And yet most people who believed in Santa turn out to be believers in Jesus. So again, it would appear not.
Sure. It's a minority in any case.
You ever read any Florence King? She's a bisexual, pagan, southern, conservative who argues for prayer in school and closeted sexual deviance. Her point of view, in broad strokes, is that the real value of having an independent mind is the level of resistance you face in claiming it. In other words, the value of being an atheist is emphasized by the fact that so few people bother to think for themselves.
It is amazing how many people are brainwashed with god. Some of them haven't given it much thought since they were "convinced" when they were young. They just say they believe or that they are christians but then ask them a few questions and they quickly admit that they don't believe the stories in the bible are literal and some of them will even admit there probably is no god.
Just a lot of them stay where its safe. Don't think about it, don't doubt, it's safer that way. An atheist has to have balls to deny god when theists say the penalty is torture forever. What a crock but it is clearly a very effective tactic to use on the sheep. I myself was one of them for over 40 years and recently woke up.
I guess I can agree, it is pretty cool being in on the secret truth that no one seems to want to hear or know. I appreciate the atheists who opened my eyes. I feel so stupid that I believed for so long. What was I thinking?
We got together every week and watched The Cosmos. It was fun. Like church.
Gismys did you go and make another profile? You scamp you lol