Facts vs Myths on US National Debt - Republicans & Conservatives Own It

Debt is the only meaningful way the government can expand the money supply.
Although government borrowing does increase the money supply, that is not usually the reason why the government borrows. The federal reserve has the responsibility of regulating the economy by changing the money supply. They have a number of ways that they can use to expand or contract the money supply.

The primary method they use is to encouraging banks to lend more or less. The most common method they use is changing the FED interest rate which they started increasing last Spring. This is the rate banks pay to borrow from other banks. The FED can also change the discount rate which is the rate banks pay to borrow from the FED. Also they can change the ratio of deposit to loans and investments. By changing these rates, banks are encouraged to tighten or loosen their loan policy which increases or decreases the money supply.

The FED can buy or sell treasury bills. When they buy treasury bills from the treasury, funds from a Federal reserve account is transferred to a treasury depository account, again increasing the money supply. However most often the FED will buy treasury bills on the open market. This will increases the volume of bank reserves held by depository institutions.

There are are a number of other tools the FED can use such as changing the margin rate on purchases of securities, closing banks, and changing various rules banks operate under.
 
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The most important thing about US debt is not how much we borrow but rather whether there are eager buyers for our debt. The factors that make the US debt so desirable are:
  • The US debt carries a double AA rating. Only 10 countries have a rating this high or higher.
  • US debt is denominated in US dollars, which serve the world as the 'de facto' international currency and is considered to be the safest currency in the world particularly in times of crisis.
  • The market for US treasury bonds is huge thus it is considered the most liquid sovereign debt. US treasury bills can be bought and sold in minutes all over the world.
  • Finally, no matter how big the demand is for sovereign debt from other countries or major corporations, there is always enough US debt to meet the demand.
 
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The greatest myth about national debt is that it must be repaid eventually and that we can not keep growing the national debt. That gives way to second greatest myth, the national debt is analogous to personal debt.

We do have to keep paying interest on it. As the debt grows so do those payments.
 
The most important thing about US debt is not how much we borrow but rather whether there are eager buyers for our debt. The factors that make the US debt so desirable are:
  • The US debt carries a double AA rating. Only 10 countries have a rating this high or higher.
  • US debt is denominated in US dollars, which serve the world as the 'de facto' international currency and is considered to be the safest currency in the world particularly in times of crisis.
  • The market for US treasury bonds is huge thus it is considered the most liquid sovereign debt. US treasury bills can be bought and sold in minutes all over the world.
  • Finally, no matter how big the demand is for sovereign debt from other countries or major corporations, there is always enough US debt to meet the demand.
I've read for years the Asian consortium has approached the world bank for SDR's (special drawing rights) to take us down a notch.....~S~
 
We do have to keep paying interest on it. As the debt grows so do those payments.
That is not a significant problem. We paid 227 billion in interest on the public debt. Our total expenditures last year was 6.27 trillion. So interest payments or 3.6%. Which is low compared major corporations or other countries. However, if US defaulted on the debt, the interest we pay would certainly rise.

Often people cite our interest expense erroneously as 11% of expenses but that includes intragovernmental debt holdings.

 
That is not a significant problem. We paid 227 billion in interest on the public debt. Our total expenditures last year was 6.27 trillion. So interest payments or 3.6%. Which is low compared major corporations or other countries. However, if US defaulted on the debt, the interest we pay would certainly rise.

Often people cite our interest expense erroneously as 11% of expenses but that includes intragovernmental debt holdings.


We pay interest on intragovernmental debt holdings.

There are treasury bills in the Social Security trust fund that are paid interest by the Fed Govt borrowing more money to pay that interest.

eventually it will all catch up if we allow it to keep climbing as a percent of our GDP
 
I've read for years the Asian consortium has approached the world bank for SDR's (special drawing rights) to take us down a notch.....~S~
SDR's are not likely to become an international reserve currency anytime soon. The SDR was created by the IMF by in 1969 to become an international reserve currency but it never caught on. Until the SDR matches the benefits of using the dollar, central banks will still need dollars. China of course is behind this because they always have too many dollars. This is not the case with most other countries who don't have the need for SDRs.
 
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SDR's are not likely to become an international reserve currency anytime soon. The SDR was created by the IMF by in 1969 to become an international reserve currency but it never caught on. Until the SDR matches the benefits of using the dollar, central banks will still need dollars. China of course is behind this because they always have too many dollars. This is not the case with most other countries who don't have the need for SDR
We pay interest on intragovernmental debt holdings.

There are treasury bills in the Social Security trust fund that are paid interest by the Fed Govt borrowing more money to pay that interest.

eventually it will all catch up if we allow it to keep climbing as a percent of our GDP
Intragovernmental debt is debt owed to itself. Major corporations and other countries around the world that invest in US public debt are not concerned with intragovernmental debt. If the US government abolished the trust funds and the specials issue treasury bills they hold and made Social Security and Medicare mandatory budgetary expenses, it would have no effect on public debt or the ability of the treasury to sell treasury bills.
 
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Intragovernmental debt is debt owed to itself. Major corporations and other countries around the world that invest in US public debt are not really concerned with intragovernmental debt. It has no effect on their investment in treasuries.

Yet we still have to pay the interest on the debt the government owes to itself.
 
Yet we still have to pay the interest on the debt the government owes to itself.
We only have to pay it because that is the way congress wrote the law. If congress changed the law if would have no impact on our ability to borrow money because this is an intragovernmental loan. The money paid by the treasury is an interest expense to one government account and income to another.
 
We only have to pay it because that is the way congress wrote the law. If congress changed the law if would have no impact on our ability to borrow money because this is an intragovernmental loan. The money paid by the treasury is an interest expense to one government account and income to another.

They are borrowing more money to pay the interest on the money already borrowed.

This cannot go on forever. Sooner or later the debt to GDP ratio is going to strangle us
 
They are borrowing more money to pay the interest on the money already borrowed.

This cannot go on forever. Sooner or later the debt to GDP ratio is going to strangle us
It depends on the rest of the world. World debt to GDP has increased by factor 5 in the last 20 years to 248 while US debt to GDP has increased by a factor of only 2.5 to 99.1. These and other factors result in the US being a safe haven for money. The US economy also has one of the best investment risk reward ratios in the world. As long as the US remains a good place for the rest of the world to put their money, we will do ok.

We don't need to spend less but we do need to spend more wisely. Investments in things like infrastructure, healthcare, education, and defense of the country are good investments because they make our country more safe, more competitive and more attractive to investments.
 
It depends on the rest of the world. World debt to GDP has increased by factor 5 in the last 20 years to 248 while US debt to GDP has increased by a factor of only 2.5 to 99.1. These and other factors result in the US being a safe haven for money. The US economy also has one of the best investment risk reward ratios in the world. As long as the US remains a good place for the rest of the world to put their money, we will do ok.

We don't need to spend less but we do need to spend more wisely. Investments in things like infrastructure, healthcare, education, and defense of the country are good investments because they make our country more safe, more competitive and more attractive to investments.
You've been talking a lot. Making a lot of assertions and throwing a lot of numbers around. Please link to your sources when using these assertions and numbers. Lacking that a link to your credentials as a respected economists would be nice.
 
It depends on the rest of the world. World debt to GDP has increased by factor 5 in the last 20 years to 248 while US debt to GDP has increased by a factor of only 2.5 to 99.1. These and other factors result in the US being a safe haven for money. The US economy also has one of the best investment risk reward ratios in the world. As long as the US remains a good place for the rest of the world to put their money, we will do ok.

We don't need to spend less but we do need to spend more wisely. Investments in things like infrastructure, healthcare, education, and defense of the country are good investments because they make our country more safe, more competitive and more attractive to investments.

US debt is at 123.4 % of GDP and climbing
 
You've been talking a lot. Making a lot of assertions and throwing a lot of numbers around. Please link to your sources when using these assertions and numbers. Lacking that a link to your credentials as a respected economists would be nice.

https://www.imf.org/-/media/Files/C...debt (public plus,29 percentage points of GDP.​

 

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