Fact is fact, Tea Partiers are extremists

[Meister]

Frank Rich wrote a great column today.

The Rage Is Not About Health Care

The current surge of anger — and the accompanying rise in right-wing extremism — predates the entire health care debate. The first signs were the shrieks of “traitor” and “off with his head” at Palin rallies as Obama’s election became more likely in October 2008. Those passions have spiraled ever since — from Gov. Rick Perry’s kowtowing to secessionists at a Tea Party rally in Texas to the gratuitous brandishing of assault weapons at Obama health care rallies last summer to “You lie!” piercing the president’s address to Congress last fall like an ominous shot.

If Obama’s first legislative priority had been immigration or financial reform or climate change, we would have seen the same trajectory. The conjunction of a black president and a female speaker of the House — topped off by a wise Latina on the Supreme Court and a powerful gay Congressional committee chairman — would sow fears of disenfranchisement among a dwindling and threatened minority in the country no matter what policies were in play. It’s not happenstance that Frank, Lewis and Cleaver — none of them major Democratic players in the health care push — received a major share of last weekend’s abuse. When you hear demonstrators chant the slogan “Take our country back!,” these are the people they want to take the country back from.

Op-Ed Columnist - The Rage Is Not About Health Care - NYTimes.com

I think Frank Rich really nailed it. This is what the Tea Parties, Palin, Fox News, Limbaugh, and Beck are all pissed about. I never believed it was Healthcare.

That's the dumbest article ive read in a long time.

We hate the fact that we have a woman speaker of the house so we make one our greatest spokepeople a woman many of us want to be President.

We hate Obama because he's black because there is no way we can actually be opposed to his bad policies.

the writer is either incredbly stupid or arrogant. probably both.

That is why rinata gravitated to this article. just sayin'.....

 

[Avatar4321]

Except when we're talking to you.

You we just call a racist.

The liberals we call socialists/commies/marxists.

You use those names and labels for fear mongering, you guys are total idiots, I'm not wasting anymore time slap you punks up.

Let me see if i understand you.

You start a thread telling us all how we are extremists and racists.

Someone calls you an extremist and racist and somehow they are fearmonger.

But you arent.

Got you.

 

[Avatar4321]

Why so mad???? I think you know he nailed it, too. It doesn't make sense that people would act so crazy over healthcare.

Course not. Why would we be upset with a government spending well over a trillion dollars of money we don't have for a program we dont want that will make things worse for our nation while consolidating power in the corrupt politicians who are passing the legislation. Who the heck could oppose that?

Tell me are you pro life or pro choice? And why?

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Typical Saul Alinsky bullshit.... blame the others for exactly what you are doing.

And this admin and Congress and their supporters aren't extremists? Care to comment on the physical attack on tea partyers at Searchlight by leftists and members of the IBEW?

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Why so mad???? I think you know he nailed it, too. It doesn't make sense that people would act so crazy over healthcare.

Course not. Why would we be upset with a government spending well over a trillion dollars of money we don't have for a program we dont want that will make things worse for our nations while consolidating power in the corrupt politicians who are passing the legislation. Who the heck could oppose that?

Tell me are you pro life or pro choice? And why?

Not to mention that the "healthcare" bill has little to do with healthcare.

 

[Vanquish]

Oh dude. Are you really saying that Tea Partiers don't think he's a Muslim? Really? Seriously?

You dont remember everyone trying to play "gotcha" with the Stephanopolous interview where he talks about "my faith" and everyone took that out of context as he's a Muslim?

You dont remember that whacky YouTube video of the redneck crack lady on the ATV calling him a Muslim and an A-RAB?

To this there's a large contingent that think he's a Muslim.

Now, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume your argument actually is that you cant prove TeaPartiers in specific, as opposed to simply conservatives (broader group) think he's a Muslim. To which I say, I'm sure you could find some, although I doubt it can be called a platform in their party.

 

[Dante]

Right-wing extremists taint Tea Party protests, hurt conservative cause | The Eagle Online

This was from a conservative on conservatives. The Tea Partiers are sick extremist monkeys with severe mental issues and are in need of help. When you believe lies are the truth and believe it as gospel something is wrong.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/announcements-and-feedback/111958-google-ads-and-usmb-cookies.html

 

[Jarhead]

There are many out there that think he may be a muslim. Who the hell cares? Muslim, Catholic, Jewish. Irrelevant.

But nowhere do I see anything that implies that those that are against his policies have a platform saying he is a muslim.

Many people in America have racial biases. Shame on them. But who the hell cares? That is their probelm, and thankfully, they are such a minority, hearing about racial slander is now considered news and not the norm.

But nowhere do I see anything that implies that those that are against his policies have a paltform saying that his policies suck because he is black.

As for the title of this thread: I suggest you look up the word "fact" in the dictionary. You obvilously confused it with the word "opinion".

 

[Dante]

There are many out there that think he may be a muslim. Who the hell cares? Muslim, Catholic, Jewish. Irrelevant.

But nowhere do I see anything that implies that those that are against his policies have a platform saying he is a muslim.

Many people in America have racial biases. Shame on them. But who the hell cares? That is their probelm, and thankfully, they are such a minority, hearing about racial slander is now considered news and not the norm.

But nowhere do I see anything that implies that those that are against his policies have a paltform saying that his policies suck because he is black.

As for the title of this thread: I suggest you look up the word "fact" in the dictionary. You obvilously confused it with the word "opinion".

Fact:
Tea Partiers are extremists.

 

[Jarhead]

There are many out there that think he may be a muslim. Who the hell cares? Muslim, Catholic, Jewish. Irrelevant.

But nowhere do I see anything that implies that those that are against his policies have a platform saying he is a muslim.

Many people in America have racial biases. Shame on them. But who the hell cares? That is their probelm, and thankfully, they are such a minority, hearing about racial slander is now considered news and not the norm.

But nowhere do I see anything that implies that those that are against his policies have a paltform saying that his policies suck because he is black.

As for the title of this thread: I suggest you look up the word "fact" in the dictionary. You obvilously confused it with the word "opinion".

Fact:
Tea Partiers are extremists.

LMAO.

A collage (sp.?)

Then I must assume all those that were against Bush's policies, myself included, wished death upon him. I, too, can make a collage (again, sp?) of hate signs with Bush's image on it.

I thought you were better than that Dante.

Or you thought I was more gullible than I am.

Or maybe both?

 

[manifold]

I'm always amazed by how many seemingly educated people are logic challenged.

Yes, many extremists have joined the tea party movement.

But this doesn't mean all tea partiers, or the movement itself, is extremist.

Silly dolts!

 

[Dante]

There are many out there that think he may be a muslim. Who the hell cares? Muslim, Catholic, Jewish. Irrelevant.

But nowhere do I see anything that implies that those that are against his policies have a platform saying he is a muslim.

Many people in America have racial biases. Shame on them. But who the hell cares? That is their probelm, and thankfully, they are such a minority, hearing about racial slander is now considered news and not the norm.

But nowhere do I see anything that implies that those that are against his policies have a paltform saying that his policies suck because he is black.

As for the title of this thread: I suggest you look up the word "fact" in the dictionary. You obvilously confused it with the word "opinion".

Fact:
Tea Partiers are extremists.

LMAO.

A collage (sp.?)

Then I must assume all those that were against Bush's policies, myself included, wished death upon him. I, too, can make a collage (again, sp?) of hate signs with Bush's image on it.

I thought you were better than that Dante.

Or you thought I was more gullible than I am.

Or maybe both?

Bush hate and death wishes? what has that to do with anything? Point is, teh Tea party ism as extreme as code pink.

 

[Dante]

I'm always amazed by how many seemingly educated people are logic challenged.

Yes, many extremists have joined the tea party movement.

But this doesn't mean all tea partiers, or the movement itself, is extremist.

Silly dolts!

as with 'contex't, I suggest you look up 'exceptions that prove the rule'.

 

[Jarhead]

Fact:
Tea Partiers are extremists.

LMAO.

A collage (sp.?)

Then I must assume all those that were against Bush's policies, myself included, wished death upon him. I, too, can make a collage (again, sp?) of hate signs with Bush's image on it.

I thought you were better than that Dante.

Or you thought I was more gullible than I am.

Or maybe both?

Bush hate and death wishes? what has that to do with anything? Point is, teh Tea party ism as extreme as code pink.

If you wish to imply that referencing a large group of Americans that were against the policies of a President is nonsense when comparing to a large group of Americans that are against the policies of a President, then I stand corrected.

You are NOT better than that.

My mistake. I apologize.

 

[manifold]

Fact is fact.

Dante = Silly dolt

 

[Dante]

LMAO.

A collage (sp.?)

Then I must assume all those that were against Bush's policies, myself included, wished death upon him. I, too, can make a collage (again, sp?) of hate signs with Bush's image on it.

I thought you were better than that Dante.

Or you thought I was more gullible than I am.

Or maybe both?

Bush hate and death wishes? what has that to do with anything? Point is, teh Tea party ism as extreme as code pink.

If you wish to imply that referencing a large group of Americans that were against the policies of a President is nonsense when comparing to a large group of Americans that are against the policies of a President, then I stand corrected.

You are NOT better than that.

My mistake. I apologize.

I am not comparing, you are---and the comparison is weak within the context of the argument I make.

the comparison is outside of the context of the argument. The argument is not about oppostition to polices. The argument is about extreme views in opposition.

 

[Dante]

Fact is fact.

Dante = Silly dolt

Truth is, mani is back to being a puppet on a string. Going back to his strengths was a wise choice. mani's got his grove back.

 

[manifold]

Fact is fact.

Dante = Silly dolt

Truth is, mani is back to being a puppet on a string. Going back to his strengths was a wise choice. mani's got his grove back.

Still beats being a puppet with a fist up your ass.

 

[Jarhead]

Bush hate and death wishes? what has that to do with anything? Point is, teh Tea party ism as extreme as code pink.

If you wish to imply that referencing a large group of Americans that were against the policies of a President is nonsense when comparing to a large group of Americans that are against the policies of a President, then I stand corrected.

You are NOT better than that.

My mistake. I apologize.

I am not comparing, you are---and the comparison is weak within the context of the argument I make.

the comparison is outside of the context of the argument. The argument is not about oppostition to polices. The argument is about extreme views in opposition.

No sir. You took it the way you wanted to take it, in an effort to avoid my rebuttle.

My comparison was to your collage (sp?).

The tea party movement, by no means is represented by your collage (sp?).

If it were, you would not need to make a collage (sp?).

You would only need to use a wide shot photo of one of the gatherings.

Your silly use of a collage (sp.) may work with partisan fools. It will not work with me.

 

[Dante]

Fact is fact.

Dante = Silly dolt

Truth is, mani is back to being a puppet on a string. Going back to his strengths was a wise choice. mani's got his grove back.

Still beats being a puppet with a fist up your ass.

Still having wet dreams about Dante?

Maybe change your sleeping pills. It could be a side effect.