Facebook Poll Asks if Obama Should be Killed

[MaggieMae]

These kind of polls have been on Facebook and several other locations since they existed, why is it such a big deal this time.

Because now the goons are in charge.

This is crap. There are always stupid polls like this out there, always have been.

No, there hasn't.

 

[KittenKoder]

These kind of polls have been on Facebook and several other locations since they existed, why is it such a big deal this time.

Because now the goons are in charge.

This is crap. There are always stupid polls like this out there, always have been.

No, there hasn't.

Yes there has. Did you forget the last few years or were you not online? If you go back far enough I'm sure you could find some about Clinton to.

 

[MaggieMae]

Great, now free speech should be prosecuted as a crime, not just free speech, but political free speech. The liberals are hypocrites.

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Bush assassination movie should die: The Swamp

Posted by Frank James at 12:41 pm CDT

There’s a new movie called “Death of a President” which portrays the assassination of President Bush. I’m sure I won’t see it.

The movie is set to premiere on Sept. 10 in Toronto. According to reports in the Los Angeles Times and CNN, through technology, the movie creates scenes that look horribly realistic. Bush’s head was electronically grafted onto an actor’s body, according to a CNN anchor.


I predict the movie will cause an uproar which, on some level, probably

The blog comments on that movie were just as critical. However, one of them pointed out that the film was made in the UK.
"This film was made by a British production company, under contract to a British TV company. It is a British view of the impact of US foreign policy post 9/11. If that policy is no longer open to criticism, then so be it. Censorship here we come."

And it was banned in the United States:

U.S. Theaters Ban Death Of A President

Which sent a strong message that Americans don't approve of shit like this.

 

[MaggieMae]

Great, now free speech should be prosecuted as a crime, not just free speech, but political free speech. The liberals are hypocrites.

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Bush assassination movie should die: The Swamp

Posted by Frank James at 12:41 pm CDT

There’s a new movie called “Death of a President” which portrays the assassination of President Bush. I’m sure I won’t see it.

The movie is set to premiere on Sept. 10 in Toronto. According to reports in the Los Angeles Times and CNN, through technology, the movie creates scenes that look horribly realistic. Bush’s head was electronically grafted onto an actor’s body, according to a CNN anchor.


I predict the movie will cause an uproar which, on some level, probably

Hanging anyone in effigy...calling for an assassination...making sinister statements about being armed, or unarmed...assassination polls...depictions of a president, or former president's assassination. Don't these constitute assault? You're putting another in fear for their life. For example: in my line of work; if I touch a patient without first gaining their consent for treatment, I can technically be charged with assault and battery. Now the odds of this happening are slim, but it was spelled out clearly in college....the importance of such communication prior to initiating treatment.

So this isn't a simple matter of freedom of speech. You can call Obama or Bush an idiot or insult them in any way, as often as you like. But because it is illegal to directly or indirectly threaten the president, or any civilian (which puts them in fear for their life) it is not a violation of the 1st amendment to prosecute. And considering that 4 presidents have been assassinated in the US; the secret service is going to take any potential threat....joking or otherwise....seriously.

The movie you mention....I haven't heard about it, but yes....it is a bad idea.

And that's really what this is all about. It shouldn't be turned into another tit-for-tat bunch of bullshit.

 

[MaggieMae]

Great, now free speech should be prosecuted as a crime, not just free speech, but political free speech. The liberals are hypocrites.

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Bush assassination movie should die: The Swamp

Hanging anyone in effigy...calling for an assassination...making sinister statements about being armed, or unarmed...assassination polls...depictions of a president, or former president's assassination. Don't these constitute assault? You're putting another in fear for their life. For example: in my line of work; if I touch a patient without first gaining their consent for treatment, I can technically be charged with assault and battery. Now the odds of this happening are slim, but it was spelled out clearly in college....the importance of such communication prior to initiating treatment.

So this isn't a simple matter of freedom of speech. You can call Obama or Bush an idiot or insult them in any way, as often as you like. But because it is illegal to directly or indirectly threaten the president, or any civilian (which puts them in fear for their life) it is not a violation of the 1st amendment. And considering that 4 presidents have been assassinated in the US; the secret service is going to take any potential threat....joking or otherwise....seriously.

The movie you mention....I haven't heard about it, but yes....it is a bad idea.

Turning free speech into assault is against the 1st amendment.

When you make political free speech a crime you have violated the 1st amendment.

Assualt, the exercise of our 1st amendment right is not assault.

The 1st amendment was not needed to protect nice speech, its to protect political discourse, the speech some may find offensive. So now we have an literal assault on the
1st Amendment. What if this is nothing more than a political tactic of an Obama supporter. What if this gives the Obama administration the ability to shutdown all free speech that is critical of Obama. We already have Carter stating that this type of speech is coming from right wing racsists. So the Obama supporters are slowly and carefully impliementing a plan to emiminate the opposition. We attack ACORN, the supporters of Obama put a sign on a dead man, hang him, and make it look like its the far right. We attack ACORN so the Obama supporters put up a facebook page calling for Obama to die and blame it on conservative. These tactics are spelled about by Saul Alinsky in "Rules for Radicals"

Obama is a student of Saul Alinsky, as is Ayers, as is ACORN

That's a lot of projection there, fella. Which means nothing. You need to tear yourself away from Beck & Co. before you start hearing voices in your head.

 

[MaggieMae]

What's even less shocking is that the right wing loons are excusing this poll.

No, the right wing is defending freedom of speech.

What isn't surprising is the the lefty tards want to squelch it.

And conducting a poll asking a question is NOT a threat, idiots.

Then what was the purpose? Idiot?

 

[MaggieMae]

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And this just happened to get released during the 2004 Presidential Elections, concidence, I think not.

I find it disgusting that anyone would wish death apon ANY POTUS. I hate Obama, but I damn sure wouldn't want to see anything happen to the guy.

I didn't see Liberals crying out about this song when it was released, but if it's about their boy Obama, oh shit I forgot you cant use the word boy and Obama in the same sentance without being labeled a racist.

Oh right, like that one was played on radio stations across the nation...Uh huh...

 

[KittenKoder]

What's even less shocking is that the right wing loons are excusing this poll.

No, the right wing is defending freedom of speech.

What isn't surprising is the the lefty tards want to squelch it.

And conducting a poll asking a question is NOT a threat, idiots.

Then what was the purpose? Idiot?

It's called venting, much like you calling someone an idiot, it's because they are frustrated and want to vent. Would you rather they bottle it all up and become the next sniper on a building?

 

[MaggieMae]

Because now the goons are in charge.

This is crap. There are always stupid polls like this out there, always have been.

No, there hasn't.

Yes there has. Did you forget the last few years or were you not online? If you go back far enough I'm sure you could find some about Clinton to.

I'm not saying nobody tried, but they were also taken down. To threaten a president's life is a criminal act.

USC-TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 41 > § 871Prev | Next § 871.
Threats against President and successors to the Presidency

(a) Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.

(b) The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful candidates for the offices of President and Vice President, respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3, United States

 

[KittenKoder]

No, there hasn't.

Yes there has. Did you forget the last few years or were you not online? If you go back far enough I'm sure you could find some about Clinton to.

I'm not saying nobody tried, but they were also taken down. To threaten a president's life is a criminal act.

USC-TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 41 > § 871Prev | Next § 871.
Threats against President and successors to the Presidency

(a) Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.

(b) The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful candidates for the offices of President and Vice President, respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3, United States

The problem is wording, and no they weren't taken down they just faded into obscurity. A threat begins with "I will", not "should".

 

[MaggieMae]

No, the right wing is defending freedom of speech.

What isn't surprising is the the lefty tards want to squelch it.

And conducting a poll asking a question is NOT a threat, idiots.

Then what was the purpose? Idiot?

It's called venting, much like you calling someone an idiot, it's because they are frustrated and want to vent. Would you rather they bottle it all up and become the next sniper on a building?

Funny, but I see putting up a poll like that as being done by a person who has exactly that in mind and is seeking support for his intent. Otherwise, s/he would have just posted it as a board or blog comment. But a POLL??? C'mon.

 

[MaggieMae]

Yes there has. Did you forget the last few years or were you not online? If you go back far enough I'm sure you could find some about Clinton to.

I'm not saying nobody tried, but they were also taken down. To threaten a president's life is a criminal act.

USC-TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 41 > § 871Prev | Next § 871.
Threats against President and successors to the Presidency

(a) Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.

(b) The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful candidates for the offices of President and Vice President, respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3, United States

The problem is wording, and no they weren't taken down they just faded into obscurity. A threat begins with "I will", not "should".

Not in a POLL, hon. The question replaces the statement. Are you defending this type of action? If so, you really have gone off the deep end. I thought it was just a phase.

 

[KittenKoder]

I'm not saying nobody tried, but they were also taken down. To threaten a president's life is a criminal act.

USC-TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 41 > § 871Prev | Next § 871.
Threats against President and successors to the Presidency

(a) Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.

(b) The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful candidates for the offices of President and Vice President, respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3, United States

The problem is wording, and no they weren't taken down they just faded into obscurity. A threat begins with "I will", not "should".

Not in a POLL, hon. The question replaces the statement. Are you defending this type of action? If so, you really have gone off the deep end. I thought it was just a phase.

You know I defend freedom of speech, always, no matter who says it or what is said. It is venting, if they actually had the intent they wouldn't have made a public announcement for it until after the fact.

 

[Immanuel]

And let's not forget that we have no idea why the guy or gal posted that poll. Hell, he could be an Obama supporter hunting loons for all we know.

Or a Secret Service Agent wanting to draw in the easy arrests. Sort of like that program where they catch the pedaphiles online.

I think such a poll is in extremely bad taste and I agree with garyd that if he is going to be removed from office before 2016, it should be at the ballot box in 2012, although, I must admit to feeling that it really doesn't matter who we elect in 2012, we are bound to elect someone who has sold his soul to take Washington by the balls.

Immie

 

[Immanuel]

Turning free speech into assault is against the 1st amendment.

When you make political free speech a crime you have violated the 1st amendment.

Assualt, the exercise of our 1st amendment right is not assault.

The 1st amendment was not needed to protect nice speech, its to protect political discourse, the speech some may find offensive. So now we have an literal assault on the
1st Amendment. What if this is nothing more than a political tactic of an Obama supporter. What if this gives the Obama administration the ability to shutdown all free speech that is critical of Obama. We already have Carter stating that this type of speech is coming from right wing racsists. So the Obama supporters are slowly and carefully impliementing a plan to emiminate the opposition. We attack ACORN, the supporters of Obama put a sign on a dead man, hang him, and make it look like its the far right. We attack ACORN so the Obama supporters put up a facebook page calling for Obama to die and blame it on conservative. These tactics are spelled about by Saul Alinsky in "Rules for Radicals"

Obama is a student of Saul Alinsky, as is Ayers, as is ACORN

It has never been legal to threaten the President. This is not a violation of the 1st Amendment any more than the prohibition of yelling "Fire!" in a crowded theater. Calling for the assassination of the President is, should be and to my knowledge always has been a crime.

The Obama Administration is not suddenly declaring such speach illegal therefore they are not taking our rights since we never had such a right.

I cannot say this very often, but in this case, I have to agree with Bob Beckel (see earler post #63) in that this guy should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

Immie

 

[Immanuel]

No, it's certainly the right of whomever owns Facebook to remove it as they choose.

But it's over the top to say it constitutes "assault" or imply someone should be prosecuted or arrested for posting it.

You and mdn make good points that this is not actually a threat, but I would think that determination would be up to the courts to decide. The person who posted the poll is truly tempting fate.

Immie

 

[KittenKoder]

No, it's certainly the right of whomever owns Facebook to remove it as they choose.

But it's over the top to say it constitutes "assault" or imply someone should be prosecuted or arrested for posting it.

You and mdn make good points that this is not actually a threat, but I would think that determination would be up to the courts to decide. The person who posted the poll is truly tempting fate.

Immie

"Tempting fate" is a flat argument, everything "tempts fate" really.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Shocking? No. Disgusting? Yes.
And believe me I am no Obama supporter, yet he is my President. This kinda ghoulish shit has to stop.

 

[Immanuel]

No, it's certainly the right of whomever owns Facebook to remove it as they choose.

But it's over the top to say it constitutes "assault" or imply someone should be prosecuted or arrested for posting it.

You and mdn make good points that this is not actually a threat, but I would think that determination would be up to the courts to decide. The person who posted the poll is truly tempting fate.

Immie

"Tempting fate" is a flat argument, everything "tempts fate" really.

Maybe so, but there are some fates, I would not care to tempt.

Like jumping from a perfectly good airplane or walking through a pit filled with rattlesnakes.

Immie

 

[KittenKoder]

You and mdn make good points that this is not actually a threat, but I would think that determination would be up to the courts to decide. The person who posted the poll is truly tempting fate.

Immie

"Tempting fate" is a flat argument, everything "tempts fate" really.

Maybe so, but there are some fates, I would not care to tempt.

Immie

Aaah ... but nothing ventured nothing gained.