Facebook and Twitter's censorship of the NY Post Article about Biden breaks something that can't be fixed

[Blues Man]

Trust in our media is completely gone. We now understand they will stop at nothing to help Biden. If Biden wins, things will get even worse.

you do know that Facebook and Twitter are not the news don't you?

Its where people share and talk about news. They are censoring any discussion of a legitimate story because they have political interests in Biden. They are private companies and can do what they want to do, and people can call them out and leave their platforms.

So what?

You people agree to the terms of service when you sign up for their free service.

Of course you never read those terms of service and you do not realize that ALL social media platforms are nothing but advertising space and as more of you people use them the more they can charge for that advertising space.

You need to do more research then get back to us.

Research the LEGAL ramifications of being a platform versus a publisher. These companies say they are a PLATFORM...therefore they cannot legally censor. If they are a publisher, they can censor, but they can be sued for content.

Think of Verizon’s cellphone network versus the New York Times.

The issue is way more complex than you think.

47 U.S.C. § 230 and the Publisher/Distributor/Platform Distinction

I'm still doing some research related to President Trump's "Preventing Online Censorship" draft Executive Order, and hope to post more…

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• I'm immune from liability for what is said in our comments.
• A newspaper is immune from liability for its comments.
• Yelp and similar sites are immune from liability for business reviews that users post.
• Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube (which is owned by Google) are immune from liability for what their users post.
• Google is generally immune from liability for its search engine results.

And that's true whether or not the Internet platform or speaker chooses to block or remove certain third-party materials.

 

[BluesLegend]

Let that marinate for a moment. Instagram censored a chart from and a link to the CDC. Directly from the CDC website because it makes COVID not look so bad.

Thats fucked.

It's official, the media isn't biased it's CORRUPT!

 

[basquebromance]

 

[Blues Man]

Trust in our media is completely gone. We now understand they will stop at nothing to help Biden. If Biden wins, things will get even worse.

you do know that Facebook and Twitter are not the news don't you?

Its where people share and talk about news. They are censoring any discussion of a legitimate story because they have political interests in Biden. They are private companies and can do what they want to do, and people can call them out and leave their platforms.

So what?

You people agree to the terms of service when you sign up for their free service.

Of course you never read those terms of service and you do not realize that ALL social media platforms are nothing but advertising space and as more of you people use them the more they can charge for that advertising space.

Then they need to lose their government protections they are hiding behind.

Facebook is no different than a bulletin board that is privately owned and allows people to post on it.

As the owner of the bulletin board they can allow or remove any thing posted.

Why you people think Facebook is more anything more than a way to sell advertising is beyond me.

 

[BlueGin]

Trust in our media is completely gone. We now understand they will stop at nothing to help Biden. If Biden wins, things will get even worse.

you do know that Facebook and Twitter are not the news don't you?

Its where people share and talk about news. They are censoring any discussion of a legitimate story because they have political interests in Biden. They are private companies and can do what they want to do, and people can call them out and leave their platforms.

So what?

You people agree to the terms of service when you sign up for their free service.

Of course you never read those terms of service and you do not realize that ALL social media platforms are nothing but advertising space and as more of you people use them the more they can charge for that advertising space.

Then they need to lose their government protections they are hiding behind.

Facebook is no different than a bulletin board that is privately owned and allows people to post on it.

As the owner of the bulletin board they can allow or remove any thing posted.

Why you people think Facebook is more anything more than a way to sell advertising is beyond me.

Incorrect. They are using US 230 government protections to save them from lawsuits based on users words. They have to abide by the rules attached to those protections related to fair use. They are not doing that. Therefore they should lose them.

 

[Blues Man]

Trust in our media is completely gone. We now understand they will stop at nothing to help Biden. If Biden wins, things will get even worse.

you do know that Facebook and Twitter are not the news don't you?

Its where people share and talk about news. They are censoring any discussion of a legitimate story because they have political interests in Biden. They are private companies and can do what they want to do, and people can call them out and leave their platforms.

So what?

You people agree to the terms of service when you sign up for their free service.

Of course you never read those terms of service and you do not realize that ALL social media platforms are nothing but advertising space and as more of you people use them the more they can charge for that advertising space.

Then they need to lose their government protections they are hiding behind.

Facebook is no different than a bulletin board that is privately owned and allows people to post on it.

As the owner of the bulletin board they can allow or remove any thing posted.

Why you people think Facebook is more anything more than a way to sell advertising is beyond me.

Incorrect. They are using US 230 government protections to save them from lawsuits based on users words. They have to abide by the rules attached to those protections related to fair use. They are not doing that. Therefore they should lose them.

I disagree.

This message board also edits users posts so by your reasoning this board should lose all its protections under US 230.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Trust in our media is completely gone. We now understand they will stop at nothing to help Biden. If Biden wins, things will get even worse.

you do know that Facebook and Twitter are not the news don't you?

Its where people share and talk about news. They are censoring any discussion of a legitimate story because they have political interests in Biden. They are private companies and can do what they want to do, and people can call them out and leave their platforms.

So what?

You people agree to the terms of service when you sign up for their free service.

Of course you never read those terms of service and you do not realize that ALL social media platforms are nothing but advertising space and as more of you people use them the more they can charge for that advertising space.

Then they need to lose their government protections they are hiding behind.

Facebook is no different than a bulletin board that is privately owned and allows people to post on it.

As the owner of the bulletin board they can allow or remove any thing posted.

Why you people think Facebook is more anything more than a way to sell advertising is beyond me.

I am not being rude here, but do some research and then re engage the conversation. You are not up to speed in the least.

 

[Blues Man]

Trust in our media is completely gone. We now understand they will stop at nothing to help Biden. If Biden wins, things will get even worse.

you do know that Facebook and Twitter are not the news don't you?

Its where people share and talk about news. They are censoring any discussion of a legitimate story because they have political interests in Biden. They are private companies and can do what they want to do, and people can call them out and leave their platforms.

So what?

You people agree to the terms of service when you sign up for their free service.

Of course you never read those terms of service and you do not realize that ALL social media platforms are nothing but advertising space and as more of you people use them the more they can charge for that advertising space.

Then they need to lose their government protections they are hiding behind.

Facebook is no different than a bulletin board that is privately owned and allows people to post on it.

As the owner of the bulletin board they can allow or remove any thing posted.

Why you people think Facebook is more anything more than a way to sell advertising is beyond me.

I am not being rude here, but do some research and then re engage the conversation. You are not up to speed in the least.

US 230 extends protection as it is written.

That is the truth.

Just because you don't like it doesn't mean I don't understand or haven't read about the statute.

You can argue to change the law but until that law is changed Facebook et al are granted platform protection.

And unlike you I don't think Facebook is anything but a seller of advertising space which offers a free messaging service to people dumb enough to subject themselves to that advertising and every single person who signs up for that free messaging service agrees to the terms of service

Just like this board.

Moderators here edit and remove posts all the time but the terms of service allow it

 

[BlueGin]

Trust in our media is completely gone. We now understand they will stop at nothing to help Biden. If Biden wins, things will get even worse.

you do know that Facebook and Twitter are not the news don't you?

Its where people share and talk about news. They are censoring any discussion of a legitimate story because they have political interests in Biden. They are private companies and can do what they want to do, and people can call them out and leave their platforms.

So what?

You people agree to the terms of service when you sign up for their free service.

Of course you never read those terms of service and you do not realize that ALL social media platforms are nothing but advertising space and as more of you people use them the more they can charge for that advertising space.

Then they need to lose their government protections they are hiding behind.

Facebook is no different than a bulletin board that is privately owned and allows people to post on it.

As the owner of the bulletin board they can allow or remove any thing posted.

Why you people think Facebook is more anything more than a way to sell advertising is beyond me.

Incorrect. They are using US 230 government protections to save them from lawsuits based on users words. They have to abide by the rules attached to those protections related to fair use. They are not doing that. Therefore they should lose them.

I disagree.

This message board also edits users posts so by your reasoning this board should lose all its protections under US 230.

They are only protected if they are acting “ in good faith”. Twitter and Facebook clearly are not.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Its pretty simple. If these Tech companies are going to create and alter content, THEY ARE PUBLISHERS AND CAN BE SUED FOR CONTENT.

The FCC and Congress needs to get on this NOW.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

 

[Blues Man]

Trust in our media is completely gone. We now understand they will stop at nothing to help Biden. If Biden wins, things will get even worse.

you do know that Facebook and Twitter are not the news don't you?

Its where people share and talk about news. They are censoring any discussion of a legitimate story because they have political interests in Biden. They are private companies and can do what they want to do, and people can call them out and leave their platforms.

So what?

You people agree to the terms of service when you sign up for their free service.

Of course you never read those terms of service and you do not realize that ALL social media platforms are nothing but advertising space and as more of you people use them the more they can charge for that advertising space.

Then they need to lose their government protections they are hiding behind.

Facebook is no different than a bulletin board that is privately owned and allows people to post on it.

As the owner of the bulletin board they can allow or remove any thing posted.

Why you people think Facebook is more anything more than a way to sell advertising is beyond me.

Incorrect. They are using US 230 government protections to save them from lawsuits based on users words. They have to abide by the rules attached to those protections related to fair use. They are not doing that. Therefore they should lose them.

I disagree.

This message board also edits users posts so by your reasoning this board should lose all its protections under US 230.

They are only protected if they are acting “ in good faith”. Twitter and Facebook clearly are not.

So it's subjective.

 

[Blues Man]

Its pretty simple. If these Tech companies are going to create and alter content, THEY ARE PUBLISHERS AND CAN BE SUED FOR CONTENT.

The FCC and Congress needs to get on this NOW.

Cool say goodbye to this board then

 

[BlueGin]

Trust in our media is completely gone. We now understand they will stop at nothing to help Biden. If Biden wins, things will get even worse.

you do know that Facebook and Twitter are not the news don't you?

Its where people share and talk about news. They are censoring any discussion of a legitimate story because they have political interests in Biden. They are private companies and can do what they want to do, and people can call them out and leave their platforms.

So what?

You people agree to the terms of service when you sign up for their free service.

Of course you never read those terms of service and you do not realize that ALL social media platforms are nothing but advertising space and as more of you people use them the more they can charge for that advertising space.

Then they need to lose their government protections they are hiding behind.

Facebook is no different than a bulletin board that is privately owned and allows people to post on it.

As the owner of the bulletin board they can allow or remove any thing posted.

Why you people think Facebook is more anything more than a way to sell advertising is beyond me.

Incorrect. They are using US 230 government protections to save them from lawsuits based on users words. They have to abide by the rules attached to those protections related to fair use. They are not doing that. Therefore they should lose them.

I disagree.

This message board also edits users posts so by your reasoning this board should lose all its protections under US 230.

They are only protected if they are acting “ in good faith”. Twitter and Facebook clearly are not.

So it's subjective.

No it’s not. Which would be why the CEO was subpoenaed by Washington and now have reversed their decision to block information on Hunter Biden. Obviously they know they went too far. They still need to lose their protections though. They abuse them.

 

[Blues Man]

Trust in our media is completely gone. We now understand they will stop at nothing to help Biden. If Biden wins, things will get even worse.

you do know that Facebook and Twitter are not the news don't you?

Its where people share and talk about news. They are censoring any discussion of a legitimate story because they have political interests in Biden. They are private companies and can do what they want to do, and people can call them out and leave their platforms.

So what?

You people agree to the terms of service when you sign up for their free service.

Of course you never read those terms of service and you do not realize that ALL social media platforms are nothing but advertising space and as more of you people use them the more they can charge for that advertising space.

Then they need to lose their government protections they are hiding behind.

Facebook is no different than a bulletin board that is privately owned and allows people to post on it.

As the owner of the bulletin board they can allow or remove any thing posted.

Why you people think Facebook is more anything more than a way to sell advertising is beyond me.

Incorrect. They are using US 230 government protections to save them from lawsuits based on users words. They have to abide by the rules attached to those protections related to fair use. They are not doing that. Therefore they should lose them.

I disagree.

This message board also edits users posts so by your reasoning this board should lose all its protections under US 230.

They are only protected if they are acting “ in good faith”. Twitter and Facebook clearly are not.

So it's subjective.

No it’s not. Which would be why the CEO was subpoenaed by Washington and now have reversed their decision to block information on Hunter Biden. Obviously they know they went too far. They still need to lose their protections though. They abuse them.

I just don't see the need.

Social media is not a news publication service never was never will be.

No one was denied the ability to read the Post's article in fact I'll bet more people actually saw it than would have. Just because one message board might not allow a post in no way means that the material is unavailable.

You people agree to the terms of service when you sign up for these "free" messaging services the problem is you don't actually read what you are agreeing to.

 

[Camp]

Trump will do nothing to stop Russian interference in our elections. Platforms and sources blocking Russian propaganda and fake news are patriotic,

 

[ImAlwaysRight]

Trust in our media is completely gone. We now understand they will stop at nothing to help Biden. If Biden wins, things will get even worse.

Social media platforms have become the free speech police and they are using their own interpretation of the 1996 Communications Decency Act, Section 230 to get away with it. Section 230 is a legal provision that essentially protects companies that host user-created content from lawsuits over posts on their services. So what's the problem? Most of the problems around Section 230 involve which posts social networks allow to stand and which ones they remove and the motivations for removal of content. The FCC has the legal authority (not social media companies) to interpret the 230 law and right now there's serious concerns" about how the protections, which essentially give immunity to social media companies, have been interpreted.

 

[BlueGin]

Trust in our media is completely gone. We now understand they will stop at nothing to help Biden. If Biden wins, things will get even worse.

you do know that Facebook and Twitter are not the news don't you?

Its where people share and talk about news. They are censoring any discussion of a legitimate story because they have political interests in Biden. They are private companies and can do what they want to do, and people can call them out and leave their platforms.

So what?

You people agree to the terms of service when you sign up for their free service.

Of course you never read those terms of service and you do not realize that ALL social media platforms are nothing but advertising space and as more of you people use them the more they can charge for that advertising space.

Then they need to lose their government protections they are hiding behind.

Facebook is no different than a bulletin board that is privately owned and allows people to post on it.

As the owner of the bulletin board they can allow or remove any thing posted.

Why you people think Facebook is more anything more than a way to sell advertising is beyond me.

Incorrect. They are using US 230 government protections to save them from lawsuits based on users words. They have to abide by the rules attached to those protections related to fair use. They are not doing that. Therefore they should lose them.

I disagree.

This message board also edits users posts so by your reasoning this board should lose all its protections under US 230.

They are only protected if they are acting “ in good faith”. Twitter and Facebook clearly are not.

So it's subjective.

No it’s not. Which would be why the CEO was subpoenaed by Washington and now have reversed their decision to block information on Hunter Biden. Obviously they know they went too far. They still need to lose their protections though. They abuse them.

I just don't see the need.

Social media is not a news publication service never was never will be.

No one was denied the ability to read the Post's article in fact I'll bet more people actually saw it than would have. Just because one message board might not allow a post in no way means that the material is unavailable.

You people agree to the terms of service when you sign up for these "free" messaging services the problem is you don't actually read what you are agreeing to.

Twitter is acting like a publisher ( by banning content that doesn’t break the terms of service) instead of just existing as a free platform. That is the problem here.

 

[Blues Man]

Trump will do nothing to stop Russian interference in our elections. Platforms and sources blocking Russian propaganda and fake news is patriotic,

Trust in our media is completely gone. We now understand they will stop at nothing to help Biden. If Biden wins, things will get even worse.

you do know that Facebook and Twitter are not the news don't you?

Its where people share and talk about news. They are censoring any discussion of a legitimate story because they have political interests in Biden. They are private companies and can do what they want to do, and people can call them out and leave their platforms.

So what?

You people agree to the terms of service when you sign up for their free service.

Of course you never read those terms of service and you do not realize that ALL social media platforms are nothing but advertising space and as more of you people use them the more they can charge for that advertising space.

Then they need to lose their government protections they are hiding behind.

Facebook is no different than a bulletin board that is privately owned and allows people to post on it.

As the owner of the bulletin board they can allow or remove any thing posted.

Why you people think Facebook is more anything more than a way to sell advertising is beyond me.

Incorrect. They are using US 230 government protections to save them from lawsuits based on users words. They have to abide by the rules attached to those protections related to fair use. They are not doing that. Therefore they should lose them.

I disagree.

This message board also edits users posts so by your reasoning this board should lose all its protections under US 230.

They are only protected if they are acting “ in good faith”. Twitter and Facebook clearly are not.

So it's subjective.

No it’s not. Which would be why the CEO was subpoenaed by Washington and now have reversed their decision to block information on Hunter Biden. Obviously they know they went too far. They still need to lose their protections though. They abuse them.

I just don't see the need.

Social media is not a news publication service never was never will be.

No one was denied the ability to read the Post's article in fact I'll bet more people actually saw it than would have. Just because one message board might not allow a post in no way means that the material is unavailable.

You people agree to the terms of service when you sign up for these "free" messaging services the problem is you don't actually read what you are agreeing to.

Twitter is acting like a publisher ( by banning content that doesn’t break the terms of service) instead of just existing as a free platform. That is the problem here.

And it's not really a big deal as I said.

and according to twitter they claimed it does violate their "hacked materials" policy.

 

[BlueGin]

Trump will do nothing to stop Russian interference in our elections. Platforms and sources blocking Russian propaganda and fake news is patriotic,

Trust in our media is completely gone. We now understand they will stop at nothing to help Biden. If Biden wins, things will get even worse.

you do know that Facebook and Twitter are not the news don't you?

Its where people share and talk about news. They are censoring any discussion of a legitimate story because they have political interests in Biden. They are private companies and can do what they want to do, and people can call them out and leave their platforms.

So what?

You people agree to the terms of service when you sign up for their free service.

Of course you never read those terms of service and you do not realize that ALL social media platforms are nothing but advertising space and as more of you people use them the more they can charge for that advertising space.

Then they need to lose their government protections they are hiding behind.

Facebook is no different than a bulletin board that is privately owned and allows people to post on it.

As the owner of the bulletin board they can allow or remove any thing posted.

Why you people think Facebook is more anything more than a way to sell advertising is beyond me.

Incorrect. They are using US 230 government protections to save them from lawsuits based on users words. They have to abide by the rules attached to those protections related to fair use. They are not doing that. Therefore they should lose them.

I disagree.

This message board also edits users posts so by your reasoning this board should lose all its protections under US 230.

They are only protected if they are acting “ in good faith”. Twitter and Facebook clearly are not.

So it's subjective.

No it’s not. Which would be why the CEO was subpoenaed by Washington and now have reversed their decision to block information on Hunter Biden. Obviously they know they went too far. They still need to lose their protections though. They abuse them.

I just don't see the need.

Social media is not a news publication service never was never will be.

No one was denied the ability to read the Post's article in fact I'll bet more people actually saw it than would have. Just because one message board might not allow a post in no way means that the material is unavailable.

You people agree to the terms of service when you sign up for these "free" messaging services the problem is you don't actually read what you are agreeing to.

Twitter is acting like a publisher ( by banning content that doesn’t break the terms of service) instead of just existing as a free platform. That is the problem here.

And it's not really a big deal as I said.

and according to twitter they claimed it does violate their "hacked materials" policy.

No?
Think again...

Facebook and Twitter Censor Bombshell Biden Stories Just Weeks After Execs Join His Transition Team

That's very concerning, to say the least. One has to wonder if someone in the Biden camp is asking Big Tech to censor certain content.

www.westernjournal.com