F*** The FCC Pt.2: Saving Private Ryan Pulled By Fearful ABC Affiliates

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they're worried the FCC's new micromanagement decency guidelines will cost them something fierce in the pocket. can we say spineless PC? where's the FCC when MTV is talking about teenagers and "money shots" at 3 pm after school? Leave the war movie alone and let some kids and adults get reminded of the hell of war and what folks in Iraq and other places are going through.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A41464-2004Nov10.html

'Saving Private Ryan': A New Casualty of the Indecency War

By Lisa de Moraes
Thursday, November 11, 2004; Page C01

ABC suits scrambled yesterday to try to contain the mutiny among stations that refuse to air tonight's broadcast of the unedited "Saving Private Ryan," citing indecency concerns.

At press time, ABC stations owned by Cox Television, Citadel Communications, Belo Corp., Hearst-Argyle and Scripps Howard Broadcasting, among others, had declined to air the 1998 Academy Award-winning movie. They say they're afraid the film's scenes of extreme violence and intense adult language will lead to sanctions by the Federal Communications Commission under its new, supersize anti-indecency standards. Among those preempting the World War II movie are stations in Dallas (the country's seventh largest television market), Atlanta (No. 9), Tampa (No. 13), Phoenix (No. 15) and Orlando (No. 20).

Ironically, most of them already aired "Saving Private Ryan" when ABC ran it, unedited, to commemorate Veterans Day in 2001 and 2002. Of course, those broadcasts predated the FCC's decision to slap CBS-owned TV stations with a record $550,000 fine over the national debut of Janet Jackson's breast at the Super Bowl, and the commission's ruling that a rocker's spontaneous use of an expletive at a trophy show broadcast by NBC was indecent and profane.

ABC has told its affiliate stations it would cover any fine the FCC might choose to impose over the movie broadcast. However, should the FCC fine a station, that could be used against it when its license comes up for renewal.

"The Federal Communications Commission has changed its standards for certain content related to programming broadcast before 10 p.m.," Ray Cole, president of Citadel Communications, said in a news release. Citadel's ABC affiliates in Des Moines and Sioux City, Iowa, and Lincoln, Neb., are preempting the movie.

Cole told The TV Column that Citadel attempted to get an advance waiver from the FCC but the commission refused, saying that stations need to "exercise their own good-faith judgment." The FCC declined to comment on any aspect of this story.

"Without an advance waiver from the FCC . . . we're not going to present the movie in prime time," Cole said. "Under strict interpretation of the indecency rules we do not see any way possible to air this movie. To be put in this position is unfortunate, and reflects the timidity that exists at the commission right now."

According to Cox's Atlanta station general manager, Greg Stone, the company asked ABC for permission to edit the film or air it outside prime time but was turned down. According to news reports, ABC's broadcast rights preclude any editing. Cox's ABC affiliates in Orlando, Atlanta and Charlotte will not air the movie.

On Atlanta's WSB-TV Web site, Stone cited the FCC's March ruling that it was both indecent and profane when NBC broadcast live Bono exclaiming, "This is really, really [expletive] brilliant!" as he picked up his trophy at the 2003 Golden Globe Awards. That same word comes up often in the movie. The Bono ruling "reversed years of prior policy that the context of language matters," Stone said.

Belo is pulling the broadcast from all four of its ABC stations, in Dallas, Austin, Louisville and Hampton-Norfolk. Belo stations ran the movie in 2001 and '02, but "sensitivity to these kind of matters has changed over the last few years," Belo Vice President Carey Hendrickson explained to The TV Column.

"Community tastes are not constant and change over time. Every time something like this comes up, you have to evaluate and reevaluate; we felt this was appropriate for this time."

Scripps Howard has pulled the movie from all five of its ABC affiliates, in Cincinnati, Cleveland, Detroit, Phoenix and Tampa, Poynter.com reported. In a statement, the company said it did so because "recent federal regulatory decisions on profanity appear to make it clear the Federal Communications Commission prohibits the broadcast of the type of profanity used in the movie. Clear unequivocal warnings to viewers . . . do not appear to mitigate a TV station's obligation to prohibit the broadcast of profane language prior to 10 p.m."

ABC executives declined to discuss the matter with The TV Column. In a statement, the network noted the broadcast would contain 11 advisories, including one at every ad break.

And, in one of those politics-makes-strange-bedfellows moments, ABC even recruited Parents Television Council pit bull Brent Bozell to put out a statement giving a big thumbs-up to the broadcast
 
NATO AIR said:
they're worried the FCC's new micromanagement decency guidelines will cost them something fierce in the pocket. can we say spineless PC? where's the FCC when MTV is talking about teenagers and "money shots" at 3 pm after school? Leave the war movie alone and let some kids and adults get reminded of the hell of war and what folks in Iraq and other places are going through.
Saving Private Ryan should be required viewing for every resident of the USA.
 
CSM said:
Saving Private Ryan should be required viewing for every resident of the USA.

yep.

did you see it in the theaters when it first came out? i was in awe of the silent respect my fellow teenagers (at the time i was like 15-16) gave the older veterans in the theater who were weeping in the beginning and the end. matter of fact, there was a whole lot of baby boomers in there (and us) who were deeply affected by it as well.
 
NATO AIR said:
yep.

did you see it in the theaters when it first came out? i was in awe of the silent respect my fellow teenagers (at the time i was like 15-16) gave the older veterans in the theater who were weeping in the beginning and the end. matter of fact, there was a whole lot of baby boomers in there (and us) who were deeply affected by it as well.
Oh yeah I saw it alright. Wasn't my war, but I could relate. We Were Soldiers Once had a big impact on me and is another movie that should be mandatory viewing.
 
CSM said:
Oh yeah I saw it alright. Wasn't my war, but I could relate. We Were Soldiers Once had a big impact on me and is another movie that should be mandatory viewing.

that was a damn great movie too.
 
CSM said:
Oh yeah I saw it alright. Wasn't my war, but I could relate. We Were Soldiers Once had a big impact on me and is another movie that should be mandatory viewing.

I own the DVD. If you haven't seen it (the DVD I mean) I highly recommend getting it. They have a making of thing in the special features section that includes an interview with the real Hal Moore.
 
CSM said:
Oh yeah I saw it alright. Wasn't my war, but I could relate. We Were Soldiers Once had a big impact on me and is another movie that should be mandatory viewing.

I read the book, one of the best on Viet Nam I've ever read.
 
CSM said:
Oh yeah I saw it alright. Wasn't my war, but I could relate. We Were Soldiers Once had a big impact on me and is another movie that should be mandatory viewing.


My dad said that "We Were Soldiers" is the closest to real life of any of the Vietnam war movies. I thought it was very uplifting compared to the usual soldiers are evil movies that are out there for vietnam.
 
As for this BS with saving private ryan. They showed schindlers list UNCUT!!! Thats a disturbing movie. IT haunts you.

Saving private ryan is at least uplifitng and shows the real graphic nature of war instead of a pussified version hollywood gives you. I get their Deal here. FCC is completely hypocritical.
 
Insein,

I was just about to say the same thing.

Schindler's List was shown uncut and uncensored and WITHOUT COMMERCIALS...warnings were given to parent's throughout and nobody said boo.

Apparently we can talk about the Holocaust...but paying homage to the tremendous sacrifices our fathers and grandfathers made for us is just too much.

And people will scream that its the conservatives fault because of the hulabaloo about Janet Jackson's breast....NEVER putting together that there just MIGHT be a difference between a woman having her clothers ripped off on a live TV event with no warning or rating...and a beautiful picture that recreates with haunting accuracy, one of the most earthchanging wars of all time.

Sigh...
 
NATO AIR said:
they're worried the FCC's new micromanagement decency guidelines will cost them something fierce in the pocket. can we say spineless PC? where's the FCC when MTV is talking about teenagers and "money shots" at 3 pm after school? Leave the war movie alone and let some kids and adults get reminded of the hell of war and what folks in Iraq and other places are going through.
Obvious political revenge
Look at the red-blue county map of America and you will see a single blue county alone in central Texas. Thats Travis County--home of Austin, Texas. I wonder why we can't see the show THIS TIME. Our local station will be hearing for me personally if they have the guts to show up tomorrow. :chains:
 
insein said:
As for this BS with saving private ryan. They showed schindlers list UNCUT!!! Thats a disturbing movie. IT haunts you.

Saving private ryan is at least uplifitng and shows the real graphic nature of war instead of a pussified version hollywood gives you. I get their Deal here. FCC is completely hypocritical.

i think both films show the horror of humanity and the greatness of it in different ways. but insein, when did they show schindler's list? if it was anytime before spring 2004, its understandable, that was the old days before the FCC became the PC police this summer with these new guidelines.
 
NATO AIR said:
i think both films show the horror of humanity and the greatness of it in different ways. but insein, when did they show schindler's list? if it was anytime before spring 2004, its understandable, that was the old days before the FCC became the PC police this summer with these new guidelines.


In Austin they substituted Oprah and Lethal weapon 3----- :teeth:
 
They played it last night in Denver. At least on my Satellite connection they did. I couldn't watch it however as I have 2 little ones that I don't need to get nightmares.

My wife would give me one of these if I let them watch that movie:
:slap:
 
no1tovote4 said:
They played it last night in Denver. At least on my Satellite connection they did. I couldn't watch it however as I have 2 little ones that I don't need to get nightmares.

My wife would give me one of these if I let them watch that movie:
:slap:

Oprah gives ME nightmares :eek2:
 
It was on in my area but what irks me with the FCC is their inability to tell people the rules. All they say is, "we'll fine you when we see you did something wrong." How the hell do you know when you ARE DOING something wrong then?

FCC needs major reform like many other unregulated government agencies. Too much government is a BAD thing.
 

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