Explain difference in "depopulation" and mass murder ... thanks

[JohnPrewett]

Vatican’s conferences on climate change was a current event.

Speaker tells Vatican conference: Reducing population is best solution to climate ‘crisis’

 

[Old Rocks]

Reducing population can be done by simply not having more than two children per female. Only the simple minded people, like you, would equate that with mass murder. You are one sick individual.

 

[BULLDOG]

If you don't understand the difference between having fewer kids and mass murder, you must be another crazy RWNJ.

 

[BULLDOG]

Now it's your turn to say something stupid about abortion.

 

[MaryL]

7 billion people on the planet, massive pollution and global warming directly linked to human overpopulation , but we are alarmed when there are few hundred elk and we have to "cull" them, because of overpopulation...Um, excuse me?

 

[JohnPrewett]

Prince William argues for urgent depopulation efforts in Africa

 

[baileyn45]

People don't seem to realize that the most effective means of reducing a population's birth rate is to make it more economically secure. We've seen this time and time again.

 

[baileyn45]

7 billion people on the planet, massive pollution and global warming directly linked to human overpopulation , but we are alarmed when there are few hundred elk and we have to "cull" them, because of overpopulation...Um, excuse me?

I don't know about elk, but here in Ohio we need more deer hunters. Not that the deer are doing damage, although they are, there are no natural predators. The die offs from starvation are increasing. The damage to other species is increasing. I'm amazed at the number of nature loving state employees that I know personally that are almost begging people to go hunt. I know a lot of hunters, one took 7 deer last year, and I'm not sure it was his limit. It's still not enough. The guy that shot 7 deer donated almost all of the meet to food banks. I figure he donated close $3000 worth of meat..

 

[Two Thumbs]

Vatican’s conferences on climate change was a current event.

Speaker tells Vatican conference: Reducing population is best solution to climate ‘crisis’

I think he's trying to convince the pope that he should tell people to use birth control and stop having as many kids as possible.


I really doubt he's trying to convince the pope to murder

 

[Leo123]

Most of the Earth is unpopulated. Areas of high population density are the real problem. In the U.S. it is on the coasts and specifically New York and Los Angeles. If there is a depopulation movement it should be centered in these areas. Also we should seal our borders so that illegal breeding is kept at a minimum.

 

[usmbguest5318]

Explain difference in "depopulation" and mass murder ... thanks

The difference is simple: anything that reduces the population and that isn't mass murder is "depopulation." One need only be patient and allow "survival of the fittest" to do what it does on an individual basis. How might one do that?

• Deny health insurance coverage for a host of chronic and a handful of acute maladies.
• Eliminate various subsistence subsidies.
• Incite war.
• Enact birth limits and impose a heavy financial price on having more than X-many children such that mortality rates outstrip birth rates.
• Implement any other policy that allows mortality rates to outpace birth rates.

Pretty much any policy that doesn't have as an explicit aim of effecting a specific individual's or specific group's demise would count as "depopulation" rather than mass murder. It would because murder requires specific intent. Ancillary consequences and specific intent are not at all the same things.

 

[JoeMoma]

Vatican’s conferences on climate change was a current event.

Speaker tells Vatican conference: Reducing population is best solution to climate ‘crisis’

I think he's trying to convince the pope that he should tell people to use birth control and stop having as many kids as possible.


I really doubt he's trying to convince the pope to murder

Is the pope for birth cotntrol?

 

[baileyn45]

Explain difference in "depopulation" and mass murder ... thanks

The difference is simple: anything that reduces the population and that isn't mass murder is "depopulation." One need only be patient and allow "survival of the fittest" to do what it does on an individual basis. How might one do that?

• Deny health insurance coverage for a host of chronic and a handful of acute maladies.
• Eliminate various subsistence subsidies.
• Incite war.
• Enact birth limits and impose a heavy financial price on having more than X-many children such that mortality rates outstrip birth rates.
• Implement any other policy that allows mortality rates to outpace birth rates.

Pretty much any policy that doesn't have as an explicit aim of effecting a specific individual's or specific group's demise would count as "depopulation" rather than mass murder. It would because murder requires specific intent. Ancillary consequences and specific intent are not at all the same things.

And yet reality says you're wrong. If you wish to decrease the birth rate in a population. increase their economic security. Look at Asia. The Chinese implemented a one child policy. It worked by force. Since then they have given up on that and their population has grown into middle class. Their population growth has followed. It's basically identical to western european rates. If you wish to lessen population rates give them electricity. The single thing that that raises people out of poverty.

 

[JohnPrewett]

Folks, TPTB (Vatican included) are planning a large population reduction .... and they mean mass murder. Believe it or not

 

[Unkotare]

7 billion people on the planet, massive pollution and global warming directly linked to human overpopulation , but we are alarmed when there are few hundred elk and we have to "cull" them, because of overpopulation...Um, excuse me?

There is no “overpopulation.”

 

[usmbguest5318]

Explain difference in "depopulation" and mass murder ... thanks

The difference is simple: anything that reduces the population and that isn't mass murder is "depopulation." One need only be patient and allow "survival of the fittest" to do what it does on an individual basis. How might one do that?

• Deny health insurance coverage for a host of chronic and a handful of acute maladies.
• Eliminate various subsistence subsidies.
• Incite war.
• Enact birth limits and impose a heavy financial price on having more than X-many children such that mortality rates outstrip birth rates.
• Implement any other policy that allows mortality rates to outpace birth rates.

Pretty much any policy that doesn't have as an explicit aim of effecting a specific individual's or specific group's demise would count as "depopulation" rather than mass murder. It would because murder requires specific intent. Ancillary consequences and specific intent are not at all the same things.

And yet reality says you're wrong. If you wish to decrease the birth rate in a population. increase their economic security. Look at Asia. The Chinese implemented a one child policy. It worked by force. Since then they have given up on that and their population has grown into middle class. Their population growth has followed. It's basically identical to western european rates. If you wish to lessen population rates give them electricity. The single thing that that raises people out of poverty.

If you wish to decrease the birth rate in a population. increase their economic security.

That's just a way, no the only way.

 

[Unkotare]

Explain difference in "depopulation" and mass murder ... thanks

The difference is simple: anything that reduces the population and that isn't mass murder is "depopulation." One need only be patient and allow "survival of the fittest" to do what it does on an individual basis. How might one do that?

• Deny health insurance coverage for a host of chronic and a handful of acute maladies.
• Eliminate various subsistence subsidies.
• Incite war.
• Enact birth limits and impose a heavy financial price on having more than X-many children such that mortality rates outstrip birth rates.
• Implement any other policy that allows mortality rates to outpace birth rates.

Pretty much any policy that doesn't have as an explicit aim of effecting a specific individual's or specific group's demise would count as "depopulation" rather than mass murder. It would because murder requires specific intent. Ancillary consequences and specific intent are not at all the same things.

Solutions without a problem.

 

[usmbguest5318]

Explain difference in "depopulation" and mass murder ... thanks

The difference is simple: anything that reduces the population and that isn't mass murder is "depopulation." One need only be patient and allow "survival of the fittest" to do what it does on an individual basis. How might one do that?

• Deny health insurance coverage for a host of chronic and a handful of acute maladies.
• Eliminate various subsistence subsidies.
• Incite war.
• Enact birth limits and impose a heavy financial price on having more than X-many children such that mortality rates outstrip birth rates.
• Implement any other policy that allows mortality rates to outpace birth rates.

Pretty much any policy that doesn't have as an explicit aim of effecting a specific individual's or specific group's demise would count as "depopulation" rather than mass murder. It would because murder requires specific intent. Ancillary consequences and specific intent are not at all the same things.

Solutions without a problem.

I didn't ask the question; I just exhibited the respect of giving a reasonably thoughtful and direct answer to it rather than deflecting by attacking the question or the person who posed it.

 

[DGS49]

A few examples. In the major western democracies of Europe, the native population is declining. Germans, Frenchmen, Italians, Greeks, and on and on. The prosperous Europeans are not having enough children to grow - ore even maintain the population. Unless something changes, within a few generations "Germans" will be in the minority in Germany. So politicians like Merkel are forced to promote mass immigration, so that enough people will be working to pay for the retirement checks for the natives. and in her mind, it doesn't really matter whether the newcomers share "German values," as long as they can get them to be gainfully employed. Good luck with that.

They are also, in various ways, paying the natives to have more kids. Again, good luck with that.

But the problem, global population-wise is not developed countries, but rather primitive countries where large families are culturally desirable, and where measures to wipe out diseases like malaria result in not only more people surviving, but a multiple effect of surviving and making more babies [that they can't afford to support].

If course it is hugely ironic that this presentation - arguably promoting universal use of artificial birth control - takes place in a Vatican conference.

Was Pope Frank asleep at the switch, or is he planning a reversal in decades-old Vatican guidelines? Inquiring minds want to know.