Expand S.C, get rid of E.C, allow illegal immigrants and 16 year olds to vote...ummm, what is this?

[DOTR]

All because a non-establishment politician won an election?

I want someone to honestly defend all these positions and say with a straight, "yeah man, these are great ideas. God Bless America!"

Nixon supported abolishing the EC in 1969.
Electoral College abolition amendment - Wikipedia

George Washington supported the electoral college. Let’s compare.

 

[BULLDOG]

All because a non-establishment politician won an election?

I want someone to honestly defend all these positions and say with a straight, "yeah man, these are great ideas. God Bless America!"

Only twice since the 1800s has a president been elected without winning the popular vote. Bush and Trump. Possibly the two worst presidents we have ever had.

 

[BULLDOG]

All because a non-establishment politician won an election?

I want someone to honestly defend all these positions and say with a straight, "yeah man, these are great ideas. God Bless America!"

It's called a blatant power grab.

Progressives don't believe opposition parties have the right to exist, so they justify any method they can to get power, hold power, and deny any power to the opposition in perpetuity.

1984 got it right with the "fake" book "The Theory and Practice of Oligarchical Collectivism. "

Trump is president. The DNC is the opposition party dumb ass.

 

[BULLDOG]

All because a non-establishment politician won an election?

I want someone to honestly defend all these positions and say with a straight, "yeah man, these are great ideas. God Bless America!"

It's the end of The Republic if people don't fight back.

You've been whining and complaining about the end of the republic since Obama won his first election.

 

[Pogo]

All because a non-establishment politician won an election?

I want someone to honestly defend all these positions and say with a straight, "yeah man, these are great ideas. God Bless America!"

Only twice since the 1800s has a president been elected without winning the popular vote. Bush and Trump. Possibly the two worst presidents we have ever had.

Actually several times. Clinton 1992; Nixon 1968; Truman 1948 and Wilson 1912 all failed to get a majority of the PV. The lowest ever was Lincoln in 1860. They got pluralites but not majorities. meaning most voters wanted somebody else.

What they all have in common, to bring forth yet another flaw of the EC system, is that they all had strong competition from third party candidates (Perot, Wallace, Thurmond, Roosevelt and Breckinridge/Bell respectively), the strategy of which is to siphon off enough EVs from the other candidates so as to deny an EV majority to anybody, thereby throwing the election into the House of Representatives where anything can happen ------- in other words, to nullify the entire election altogether.

 

[Pogo]

All because a non-establishment politician won an election?

I want someone to honestly defend all these positions and say with a straight, "yeah man, these are great ideas. God Bless America!"

Nixon supported abolishing the EC in 1969.
Electoral College abolition amendment - Wikipedia

George Washington supported the electoral college. Let’s compare.

Link?

James Madison, who authored the damn thing, wanted WTA to be banned.

 

[Seawytch]

All because a non-establishment politician won an election?

I want someone to honestly defend all these positions and say with a straight, "yeah man, these are great ideas. God Bless America!"

My, my...The talking points went out somewhere....(Glen Beck maybe?)

The Democrats Plan to Steal Elections

 

[RealDave]

All because a non-establishment politician won an election?

I want someone to honestly defend all these positions and say with a straight, "yeah man, these are great ideas. God Bless America!"

No one is saying illegals should vote in national elections. No one is serious about allowing 16 year old to vote. If Trumop could pick the additional USSC judges you'd be for it.

Warren had valid pints about the EC. Think about all the Republicans in MA, CA, and NY whose vote for President never counts? Or the Democrats in the Red States.

 

[WillowTree]

All because a non-establishment politician won an election?

I want someone to honestly defend all these positions and say with a straight, "yeah man, these are great ideas. God Bless America!"

Only twice since the 1800s has a president been elected without winning the popular vote. Bush and Trump. Possibly the two worst presidents we have ever had.

No! Obamaturd took that ribbon home!

 

[WEATHER53]

All of this, every single bit from the Trump hate to trying to alter everything that is American, is based on putting feelings before facts and trying to force the entire conservative population to cater to and ultimately adopt liberal feelings.

 

[RealDave]

All because a non-establishment politician won an election?

I want someone to honestly defend all these positions and say with a straight, "yeah man, these are great ideas. God Bless America!"

You forgot ICE and cow farts.

Who in their right mind says, "ICE is a danger, but those illegal immigrants, should be free to reign over America?".

Honestly. I LIKED Bill Clinton, I did. He has some serious problems with his dealings with China, but overall, he was a good Democrat. Obama really turned you guys left. Scary left. Even he though, had some qualities that said "I love America". He just loved the global socialists more.

This new breed? They are outright Marxist, anarchists who simply don't like America, capitalism or anything that made you great. I have to think there is something amiss in your education system, and some deep pocket communists and global socialists who have altered the curriculum. These people are FAR more to the left than even Canada or Ontario.

As Trump created the White Nationalist Republican Party, you dipsticks claim the Democrats are going bonkers. Lets see is the nominee.

in 2016, the Republicans had some real Republican candidates but they chose the fraud racist instead.

Believing is regulated capitalism, is nit being against capitalism.

The only person interested in deep pocket Russians was Trump.

 

[RealDave]

All because a non-establishment politician won an election?

I want someone to honestly defend all these positions and say with a straight, "yeah man, these are great ideas. God Bless America!"

Only twice since the 1800s has a president been elected without winning the popular vote. Bush and Trump. Possibly the two worst presidents we have ever had.

No! Obamaturd took that ribbon home!

Show me any rankings of Presidents where Obama ranks below Bush or Trump.

 

[Pogo]

All because a non-establishment politician won an election?

I want someone to honestly defend all these positions and say with a straight, "yeah man, these are great ideas. God Bless America!"

No one is saying illegals should vote in national elections. No one is serious about allowing 16 year old to vote. If Trumop could pick the additional USSC judges you'd be for it.

Warren had valid pints about the EC. Think about all the Republicans in MA, CA, and NY whose vote for President never counts? Or the Democrats in the Red States.

Zackly. Uncountable millions in MA, CA and NY as well as WA, OR, ID, MT, UT, NM, CO, ND, SD, KS, OK, TX, LA, MS, AL, GA, TN, KY, IL, MN, NH, VT, CT, RI, DE, NJ MD, AK and HI didn't bother to vote at all because their state's electors were a foregone conclusion, so why bother.

We had a whopping 55% turnout in 2016 which in most voting countries of the world would call for a national day of shame.

 

[RealDave]

All because a non-establishment politician won an election?

I want someone to honestly defend all these positions and say with a straight, "yeah man, these are great ideas. God Bless America!"

This is a common leftist and Marxist tactic. If they lose by the rules they want to change the rules to favor them.
Add to that their natural antipathy for American constitutionalism and historical norms.

This from the party that tried to install voter photo ID laws to suppress the vote.

 

[BULLDOG]

All because a non-establishment politician won an election?

I want someone to honestly defend all these positions and say with a straight, "yeah man, these are great ideas. God Bless America!"

Only twice since the 1800s has a president been elected without winning the popular vote. Bush and Trump. Possibly the two worst presidents we have ever had.

Actually several times. Clinton 1992; Nixon 1968; Truman 1948 and Wilson 1912 all failed to get a majority of the PV. The lowest ever was Lincoln in 1860. They got pluralites but not majorities. meaning most voters wanted somebody else.

What they all have in common, to bring forth yet another flaw of the EC system, is that they all had strong competition from third party candidates (Perot, Wallace, Thurmond, Roosevelt and Breckinridge/Bell respectively), the strategy of which is to siphon off enough EVs from the other candidates so as to deny an EV majority to anybody, thereby throwing the election into the House of Representatives where anything can happen ------- in other words, to nullify the entire election altogether.

The popular vote doesn't mean a majority of all votes, and your attempt to portray them as the same is really dumb. The 4 you mentioned all won the popular vote. The only two in modern history to be inaugurated as president without winning the popular vote were Trump and Bush. Possibly the 2 worst presidents we have ever had.

 

[WillowTree]

All because a non-establishment politician won an election?

I want someone to honestly defend all these positions and say with a straight, "yeah man, these are great ideas. God Bless America!"

Only twice since the 1800s has a president been elected without winning the popular vote. Bush and Trump. Possibly the two worst presidents we have ever had.

No! Obamaturd took that ribbon home!

Show me any rankings of Presidents where Obama ranks below Bush or Trump.

You might get away with ordering obamaturd’s around but not me!

 

[WEATHER53]

Also there is no white privledges. Privledges are earned and not bestowed so go out and earn some rather than boofer cry babying about those who have.

 

[basquebromance]

"liberals think they know more than Benjamin Franklin. the EC was designed to prevent mob rule" - Watters

 

[RealDave]

Thank gawd for our constitution! Democrats are dumbfucks!

Like you assfucks give a shit about the Constitution.

Trump just pissed on it & you love him for it.

 

[RealDave]

"liberals think they know more than Benjamin Franklin. the EC was designed to prevent mob rule" - Watters

so, the majority vote doesn't count? Then why do we use it in our other elections.