Even Now

[Unkotare]

Even in these days when almost all subject-area teachers are required to be SEI certified, a number of such teachers are finding themselves feeling overwhelmed as the number of ESL students in their classes with native-speaking students in some areas continues to grow. Best intentions aside, I sometimes hear comments like those I heard all the time from mainstream teachers 20 years ago. ...

 

[Unkotare]

Some of these teachers are at a loss as to how to communicate with students who speak a first language that the teacher may not be familiar with. Others are overwhelmed with classes that represent 4, 5 or more. This can be addressed, but the real issues run deeper.

 

[Unkotare]

Some of it has to do with the age of the students and their stage of language development generally.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Even in these days when almost all subject-area teachers are required to be SEI certified, a number of such teachers are finding themselves feeling overwhelmed as the number of ESL students in their classes with native-speaking students in some areas continues to grow. Best intentions aside, I sometimes hear comments like those I heard all the time from mainstream teachers 20 years ago. ...

Can you clarify the abbreviations.

 

[Seymour Flops]

What is your point, though?

Everyone who is not an SLC alumnus knew that would happen when Biden threw open the border.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Can you clarify the abbreviations.

SEI = sheltered English Immersion.
ESL = English as a second language.
Bilingual = teaching in first language.

 

[Unkotare]

Can you clarify the abbreviations.

SEI = Sheltered English Immersion (English language learners included in subject area classes with native speakers, with accommodations).

ESL = English as a Second Language (Learning the English language as a dedicated subject itself).

Ideally, the two support each other in helping students succeed in school and beyond.

 

[Unkotare]

...
Bilingual = teaching in first language.

Not exactly.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Not exactly.

You are tiresome.

Yes, exactly:

What is your point? Of the thread, I mean?

Do you teach your subject like this? Use acronyms your students are unlikely to know the meaning of?

 

[Unkotare]

You are tiresome.

Yes, exactly:

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Which is not what you said.

 

[Unkotare]

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Do you teach your subject like this? Use acronyms your students are unlikely to know the meaning of?

When students are ready for it, knowledge of pertinent meta-linguistic terminology has been shown to support second language acquisition. No ESL student doesn't know what ESL stands for, of course.

 

[GMCGeneral]

How about: "ENGLISH ************ DO YOU SPEAK IT?!?!?!?"-Samuel L. Jackson

 

[Unkotare]

How about: "ENGLISH ************ DO YOU SPEAK IT?!?!?!?"-Samuel L. Jackson

I've run across some mainstream subject-area teachers who all but had that attitude (minus the gun).

 

[Leo123]

Even in these days when almost all subject-area teachers are required to be SEI certified, a number of such teachers are finding themselves feeling overwhelmed as the number of ESL students in their classes with native-speaking students in some areas continues to grow. Best intentions aside, I sometimes hear comments like those I heard all the time from mainstream teachers 20 years ago. ...

Can language learning apps assist?

 

[Unkotare]

Can language learning apps assist?

There are tons, but they mostly work as supplements. Some are pretty good, but despite what ads might suggest, they won't get it done on their own.

 

[GMCGeneral]

I've run across some mainstream subject-area teachers who all but had that attitude (minus the gun).

Well fortunately, our CMV operators are required to understand English.

 

[Leo123]

There are tons, but they mostly work as supplements. Some are pretty good, but despite what ads might suggest, they won't get it done on their own.

Thanks. What about giving a student a good ap and then going the 'immersion' route with a qualified teacher?

 

[Unkotare]

This is a popular one. Used by some teachers as a supplement, for homework, or just a diversion when a group needs a change of pace.

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www.duolingo.com

 

[leftwinger]

You always say "they were born here". By age 13-20 in your class they would have already learned English.

Nothing ever makes sense in your threads.

Or they are illegal imports under Obiden phony assylum parents and could go back and come in legally?

 

[leftwinger]

They could have 13 yrs of Leave it to Beaver or Green Acres like American kids learned.