Zone1 Eugenics revisited

[hjmick]

You know, every time I check in here and take a look at some of the topics posted and ideas being conveyed I find myself wondering what the Hell is wrong some of you...

 

[Votto]

So was Chinese-ey the uber race back in the middle ages?

What about Muslim-ey at the same time?

All good points, which explains why Hitler thought the Asians to be worthy of being an ally, as well as many in Islam.

 

[Votto]

That’s what eugenics is. Determining what human qualities are ”undesirable” according to the social standards of the day and eliminating them from the gene pool through a selection process. The only difference with Hitler is he had the power and amassed social and political support to carry it out to it’s ultimate end.

Eugenics is playing with fire.

Eugenics is playing with fire?
Why then do you favor abortion on demand and why are abortion centers mostly located in minority communities?

 

[Cougarbear]

If you want strong livestock and healthy, then you breed accordingly.

Should this be done with humans?

This will be the next step for Democrats with Covid-19. They will demand that only those who only get mild colds with it can live. All other unhealthy person with diabetes and other illnesses will have to be disposed of. They will try to genetically breed strong individuals devoid of disease in order to deplete the population to match their decades of attempts for population control now called climate change or covid-19.

 

[surada]

Like Margaret Sanger, Charles Darwin also viewed the Black race as inferior. Scientists back then all thought this.

Here is a quote.

“With savages, the weak in body or mind are soon eliminated; and those that survive commonly exhibit a vigorous state of health. We civilised men, on the other hand, do our utmost to check the process of elimination; we build asylums for the imbecile, the maimed, and the sick; we institute poor-laws; and our medical men exert their utmost skill to save the life of every one to the last moment. There is reason to believe that vaccination has preserved thousands, who from a weak constitution would formerly have succumbed to small-pox. Thus the weak members of civilised societies propagate their kind. No one who has attended to the breeding of domestic animals will doubt that this must be highly injurious to the race of man. It is surprising how soon a want of care, or care wrongly directed, leads to the degeneration of a domestic race; but excepting in the case of man himself, hardly any one is so ignorant as to allow his worst animals to breed.

The aid which we feel impelled to give to the helpless is mainly an incidental result of the instinct of sympathy, which was originally acquired as part of the social instincts, but subsequently rendered, in the manner previously indicated, more tender and more widely diffused. Nor could we check our sympathy, if so urged by hard reason, without deterioration in the noblest part of our nature. The surgeon may harden himself whilst performing an operation, for he knows that he is acting for the good of his patient; but if we were intentionally to neglect the weak and helpless, it could only be for a contingent benefit, with a certain and great present evil. Hence we must bear without complaining the undoubtedly bad effects of the weak surviving and propagating their kind; but there appears to be at least one check in steady action, namely the weaker and inferior members of society not marrying so freely as the sound; and this check might be indefinitely increased, though this is more to be hoped for than expected, by the weak in body or mind refraining from marriage.”
― Charles Darwin, The Descent of Man

Charles seems to be arguing here, that man could treat humans like livestock, which is to breed towards a genetically preferred race. After all, if you can do it with cattle, why not with humans?

But at the same time, he argues that the noble nature of man prevents him from simply discarding those in the human race that are harming the gene pool or even preventing them from breeding.

I'm not sure what nobility has to do with science, which is perhaps why Hitler did what he did. Hitler ignored the nobility part, and simply tried to breed a human race based on desirable traits he liked and saw scientifically beneficial.

So are there traits that are beneficial? For example, is breeding intelligence preferable to not doing so?

The cemeteries were full of women worn out too young from repeated pregnancies and miscarriages.. especially poor women.

You can bash Margret Sanger as a racist, but that's myopic if not simply stupid. The majority of those unfortunate women were poor whites. They also needed birth control and healthcare.

 

[ReinyDays]

Been done ... it's called Brave New World by Aldous Huxley ... seems kinda sterile and unimaginative ...

"We have the technology" ...

 

[surada]

Eugenics is playing with fire?
Why then do you favor abortion on demand and why are abortion centers mostly located in minority communities?

Every town in America and every college town had a back alley abortionist up to Roe v Wade and most of their customers were poor white women. Middle class and affluent women could always access health care services.

 

[Votto]

This will be the next step for Democrats with Covid-19. They will demand that only those who only get mild colds with it can live. All other unhealthy person with diabetes and other illnesses will have to be disposed of. They will try to genetically breed strong individuals devoid of disease in order to deplete the population to match their decades of attempts for population control now called climate change or covid-19.

What we saw with Covid was a government insisting that the vaccine and mask were all backed by science, so that the only ones opposed were the ultra right wing nut jobs not smart enough to know any better, as if they alone were to blame for the spread.

To this day, I think many democrats believe this even though the entire world suffered horribly from it and even though the hold Trump personally to blame for the world wide pandemic.

In fact, any issue by the Left is met with the same arrogance of, "I am a person of science and reason and science is always on my side".

So if you believe science, that men can have babies and we should be implanting a uterus in them to become women, then you are the person of reason and intelligence.

 

[Votto]

The cemeteries were full of women worn out too young from repeated pregnancies and miscarriages.. especially poor women.

You can bash Margret Sanger as a racist, but that's myopic if not simply stupid. The majority of those unfortunate women were poor whites. They also needed birth control and healthcare.

So the poor folk, which usually equates to people with a lower intelligence, needs to reduce their offspring.

You would then agree with the original article and the need for the continued eugenics of abortion on demeand.

 

[Coyote]

It's not my theory.

Eugenics is with us every day with abortion, something the Left champions

In New York City alone, there have been more Black abortions than births.

And about 86% of abortion centers are targeted in minority neighborhoods.

Margaret Sanger, who founded Panned Parenthood, thought that trying to limit them from reproducing would benefit humanity.

That isn’t what Sanger thought.

That’s what eugenics is. Determining what human qualities are ”undesirable” according to the social standards of the day and eliminating them from the gene pool through a selection process. The only difference with Hitler is he had the power and amassed social and political support to carry it out to it’s ultimate end.

Eugenics is playing with fire.

Why do you disagree surada?

 

[martybegan]

The cemeteries were full of women worn out too young from repeated pregnancies and miscarriages.. especially poor women.

You can bash Margret Sanger as a racist, but that's myopic if not simply stupid. The majority of those unfortunate women were poor whites. They also needed birth control and healthcare.

So she was classist AND racist?

What a role model you have there.

 

[Votto]

The cemeteries were full of women worn out too young from repeated pregnancies and miscarriages.. especially poor women.

You can bash Margret Sanger as a racist, but that's myopic if not simply stupid. The majority of those unfortunate women were poor whites. They also needed birth control and healthcare.

Abortion rates by race and ethnicity

www.guttmacher.org

No, the vast majority who have abortions are poor women of color.
Of course, even though the Left admits this, the Left in the article blames racism as the reason, of course, because of a lack of access to health care.

 

[task0778]

Eugenics is playing with fire?

Not to speak for Coyote, she has a mind of her own, but IMHO I don't think it is much of a step from eugenics when women are sterilized and babies are aborted to mass murder of human beings who happen to share some common denominator that their society wants to eliminate. Who among us should be making those decisions? Eugenics is where the gov't makes the call rather than the individual mother-to-be.

Why then do you favor abortion on demand and why are abortion centers mostly located in minority communities?

Abortion is not the same as eugenics, nobody makes the decision today to abort a fetus to improve the gene pool. Mostly it's an economics reason and quite frankly in some cases an inconvenience that was never intended to happen, and that is not eugenics because it's personal rather than systematic. Eugenics is gov't authorized program intended to erase an entire subset of the population.

 

[Votto]

So she was classist AND racist?

What a role model you have there.

The Left cares nothing about racism. That is why their forefather, Karl Marx, was also an ardent racist even though none of them care about it.

Why should we not be surprised that their other role models, like Darwin and Sanger, were also racist with them caring nothing about it either. They will glibly say that, that is just how people thought back then, as if to explain it away.

Then in the same breath tear down a statue of Lincoln cuz he was too white or too much a racist? Meanwhile, they would be horrified at tearing down a statue of Marx or Sanger.

Those kooks are nutty.

 

[Votto]

Not to speak for Coyote, she has a mind of her own, but IMHO I don't think it is much of a step from eugenics when women are sterilized and babies are aborted to mass murder of human beings who happen to share some common denominator that their society wants to eliminate. Who among us should be making those decisions? Eugenics is where the gov't makes the call rather than the individual mother-to-be.




Abortion is not the same as eugenics, nobody makes the decision today to abort a fetus to improve the gene pool. Mostly it's an economics reason and quite frankly in some cases an inconvenience that was never intended to happen, and that is not eugenics because it's personal rather than systematic. Eugenics is gov't authorized program intended to erase an entire subset of the population.

The vast majority of abortions are sought because of economic reasons. Those are just the facts.

So tell us, who are usually economically disadvantaged? Minorities perhaps? People with lower IQ levels and/or poor education perhaps?

So, in a round about way, people are putting an end to reproduction based on those criteria, whether they cognitively are aware of it or not.

Then there comes the issue of aborting a fetus with Downs, for example.

"What kind of society do you want to live in?": Inside the country where Down syndrome is disappearing

Iceland has almost eliminated Down syndrome by aborting virtually 100 percent of fetuses that test positive.

www.cbsnews.com

In Iceland, about 100% of babies are terminated with Downs which is clearly a eugenical decision.

 

[martybegan]

The Left cares nothing about racism. That is why their forefather, Karl Marx, was also an ardent racist even though none of them care about it.

Why should we not be surprised that their other role models, like Darwin and Sanger, were also racist with them caring nothing about it either. They will glibly say that, that is just how people thought back then, as if to explain it away.

Then in the same breath tear down a statue of Lincoln cuz he was too white or too much a racist? Meanwhile, they would be horrified at tearing down a statue of Marx or Sanger.

Those kooks are nutty.

They should check out Che's views on homosexuals.

 

[Votto]

They should check out Che's views on homosexuals.

And Blacks.

He was another racist as they run around with a picture of him on their shirt.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

If you want strong livestock and healthy, then you breed accordingly.

Should this be done with humans?

A Seed Doesn't Grow in a Sandbox

That's the opposite of what is focused on. What do we do to motivate the intelligent to develop their talents, which are the motor of the world?

I was totally turned off about the Bell Curve's taking for granted the "Cognitive Elite." It a lie by the parasites who exploit what's left of them that High IQs are rewarded in proportion to their potential. The ruling class's college education must be replaced with highly paid professional education.

Superior minds must be treated the same way we treat superior athletes from childhood on, even to the extent of getting the prettiest girls. It must be a complete copy of the rewards given. I have a plan to make that happen in grade school and high school. This inspiration came when I realized that the reason the pro athletes unionized, after a hundred years of pathetically low salaries, was the pride-enhancing way they had been treated as children in the 1950s.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

All else being equal, I believe that all persons of the human race with differing skin colours, have exactly the same potential for intelligence as can be measured by an IQ test.

It must be clearly stated that to believe otherwise is to be a racist of the worst ilk and to be a supporter of Hitler's brand of fascism.

And I'll go even further and say that this tendency to support racism and fascism has become the agenda of up to half of Americans.

Now you need to take a shot at your theory!

BIG BROTHERHOOD IS WATCHING YOU

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Realize that government is largely secular, so this very well be where the human race is headed, especially with all the talk about reducing population levels. Their only concern is science and control, not morality.

I in no way am condoning any of it.

The Nobility With No Ability

The government is privately owned by high and mighty lowlife. In order to protect their unearned power, they would advocate dysgenics, which is what's been happening since they took over.