Ethanol destroys America

[jillian]

Ethanol can also be made from algae, woodchips and as a matter of fact, Coors Brewery in Golden Colorado is now using the waste from their beer making to produce ethanol.

Just another lame bullshit scare from Born Wrong y'all. Nothing much to see here.

The vast majority of ethanol in this country is made from corn. Smile you "Obamanite" and shell out more to feed your family. Food prices will soar.

you've already been shown to be a liar.

stop repeating the same garbage.


pathetic troll.

 

[Mini 14]

Ethanol destroys America

All I care about is that it destroys the float bowl gaskets on my motorbike and the gaskets and seals in the motor for my fishing boat.

That's bad enough for me.

Same here. I drive a 72 Bronco. Ethanol will eat half of the rubber it in under a year. Part of my spring ritual is to replace the entire fuel lines and filters, even though I won't buy fuel that has ethanol in it. They don't always tell you though, so inevitably, some ethanol gets into my system.

 

[Mr. H.]

Ethanol destroys America

All I care about is that it destroys the float bowl gaskets on my motorbike and the gaskets and seals in the motor for my fishing boat.

That's bad enough for me.

Same here. I drive a 72 Bronco. Ethanol will eat half of the rubber it in under a year. Part of my spring ritual is to replace the entire fuel lines and filters, even though I won't buy fuel that has ethanol in it. They don't always tell you though, so inevitably, some ethanol gets into my system.

The fifteen states that don't require stations to tell you if the gasoline contains ethanol: (alphabetically) California, District of Columbia, Hawaii, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, New Jersey, New Mexico, North Carolina, and Ohio.


Does your state require ethanol labeling? - Gasbuddy Gas Prices

Illinois has specific regulations with respect to the size and placement of stickers on gasoline pumps. These regs are loosely followed and rarely if ever enforced.

 

[uscitizen]

Ethanol destroys America

All I care about is that it destroys the float bowl gaskets on my motorbike and the gaskets and seals in the motor for my fishing boat.

That's bad enough for me.

Same here. I drive a 72 Bronco. Ethanol will eat half of the rubber it in under a year. Part of my spring ritual is to replace the entire fuel lines and filters, even though I won't buy fuel that has ethanol in it. They don't always tell you though, so inevitably, some ethanol gets into my system.

but that is becuase it is a Ford, not the fuel

I did have to get a new additive for my small engine gas though. Damned ethanol fuel kept slimeing up the carbs.

Seat belts catilatic converters, cell phones, just have to change with the times.

 

[Oddball]

All I care about is that it destroys the float bowl gaskets on my motorbike and the gaskets and seals in the motor for my fishing boat.

That's bad enough for me.

Same here. I drive a 72 Bronco. Ethanol will eat half of the rubber it in under a year. Part of my spring ritual is to replace the entire fuel lines and filters, even though I won't buy fuel that has ethanol in it. They don't always tell you though, so inevitably, some ethanol gets into my system.

The fifteen states that don't require stations to tell you if the gasoline contains ethanol: (alphabetically) California, District of Columbia, Hawaii, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, New Jersey, New Mexico, North Carolina, and Ohio.


Does your state require ethanol labeling? - Gasbuddy Gas Prices

Illinois has specific regulations with respect to the size and placement of stickers on gasoline pumps. These regs are loosely followed and rarely if ever enforced.

Thanks for the info.

I knew about Minnesota because they mandate that ALL gasoline be 10% ETOH.

Consequently, I fuel up the bike and boat in Wisconsin.

 

[Mr. H.]

Years ago I sent in a request for a vanity plate: NO ETOH.

It was denied.

 

[bornright]

you've already been shown to be a liar.

stop repeating the same garbage.


pathetic troll.

What lie? I am stating a fact here. Perhaps you just don't have the ability to understand the connection of raising corn prices and the huge affect it will have on food prices. Let me make it a little simpler for you.

Cows eat feed which is mostly made up of corn. The cows produce milk. It is that same milk that your Momma puts on your breakfast cereal before you go to school.

Feed goes up because it is made up mainly of corn. The farmer has to pay more for the feed therefore he has to charge more for the milk. Your momma has to spend more at the store for the milk to pour onto your morning cereal (which is going be higher because it is probably made partially from corn). Your momma will have less money now to buy your toys and video games.

That is about as simple as I can make it for you. Get your momma to explain it to you.

 

[Intense]

Ethanol can also be made from algae, woodchips and as a matter of fact, Coors Brewery in Golden Colorado is now using the waste from their beer making to produce ethanol.

Just another lame bullshit scare from Born Wrong y'all. Nothing much to see here.

It is not Bullshit when it bears responsibility for increased corn prices, ABS. What is it with you and disinformation? Who's paying you?

 

[Intense]

Despite the environmental and financial failure of federally subsidized ethanol, the Environmental Protection Agency has approved even greater use of the fuel additive. On Friday, the EPA approved the use of 15 percent-blend ethanol for cars and trucks produced in the year 2001 and later. The decision expands upon an October EPA decision which increased ethanol blends with unleaded gasoline from 10 to 15 percent.

The Des Moines Register explains:
The E15 decision was supposed to be made by mid-2010 but was delayed several times for more testing as automobile and small engine manufacturers raised various concerns and objections. Several lawsuits, including one by the automobile industry, already have been filed to block the EPA’s earlier decision.

According to the lawsuit, led by the Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers and the Association of International Automobile Manufacturers, the National Marine Manufacturers Association, and the Outdoor Power Equipment Institute, the decision violates the Clean Air Act because the EPA does not have the power to “approve applications for new fuels and fuel additives” for some vehicles and not others.

Regardless of the lawsuit, however, the EPA moved ahead with its approval of the E15, a decision that works in favor of the nation’s corn industry. Nearly one-third of the corn produced in the nation is used to make ethanol — and that percentage is even higher in Iowa, with its large number of ethanol production plants.

Predictably, members of the ethanol industry and corn growers are delighted with the decision.

Darrin Ihnen, chairman of the National Corn Growers Association, observes that the announcement is “welcome news,” adding, “We are pleased to see the EPA also realized what our industry has known for a long time; that the use of higher blends of ethanol in vehicles is safe.”

Also celebrating the decision is Iowa’s Senator Charles Grassley, who commented,

I’ve been frustrated with the amount of time it’s taken the EPA to reach these decisions and I’d still like to see a waiver for E15 use in all vehicles, but I appreciate that the EPA Administrator has made certain to base the decisions on sound science.

While the decision may have a positive impact on the ethanol industry and corn farmers, it wholly ignores the failure of ethanol. On January 15, the Daily Bulletin reported, “Government subsidies for corn-based ethanol, which drive up the demand for the corn used in feed, are to blame for the price hikes [of livestock feed].”

EPA Approves E15 Ethanol Mix

 

[Neubarth]

you've already been shown to be a liar.

stop repeating the same garbage.


pathetic troll.

Actually, jillian, you are wrong. From the link you provided to President Bush's speech we have the following:

"And so, I am committed to furthering technological research to find other ways, other sources for ethanol.

We're working on research -- strong research to figure out cellulosic ethanol that can be made from wood chips or stalks or switchgrass. These materials are sometimes waste products that are just simply thrown away. And doesn't it make sense for us -- I think it does -- to use taxpayers' money to determine whether or not we can use these raw materials to make something out of nothing so that we continue the advance of ethanol and so the market for ethanol expands throughout the United States?

I proposed, and I'm working with these members of the Renewable Caucus, $150 million in next year's budget for research in advanced forms of ethanol. And that's a significant increase over previous levels. I think it makes sense. And surely the prices at the gas pumps should say to the taxpayer, "It makes sense for this government to spend money on development to find alternative sources of energy."