"Ender's Game" Boycott

[IlarMeilyr]

Joey seems to still be stuck on "The Little Engine That Could".

He DOES think that one IS quality science fiction.

But they never explained how they worked such a finely tuned intelligence and can do spirit into that little train.

 

[Montrovant]

I see you didn't read Rice either, why am I not surprised?

I have read Rice, and he's got a point. There is certainly some male/male love and sexual interaction in her books, and as Lestat says, he is the 'gentleman' vampire. Rice's vampires are more romantic than scary.

I don't know that it appeals to wannabe goth girls, though.

I think you should reread the books. The entire point about the vampires is how dangerous they are.

By the way, the definition of a gentleman used by Lestat has nothing to do with being polite, it is entirely about hiding the corruption behind a facade. He had absolute contempt for everyone who refused to look beyond the surface and seek the truth.

Even her Sleeping Beauty series is more about the danger and seduction of power than the sex, and it was deliberately written to be about sex.

I have read the first 6 or 7 books multiple times. They are not scary vampires for the most part. One can be dangerous without being scary, at least in the Nosferatu, hideous evil monster sense. Rice's vampires are appealing. They are the heroes, whatever sins they might commit. They also tend to be very androgynous and there is a lot of pseudo-sexual tension, as well as outright acts of sex (such as when Armand gives a blowjob to his young, human protege).

Rice's vampires are beautiful and compelling and often, even when they feed, remain so.

 

[Jarlaxle]

That isn't exactly new...offhand, I can come up with a story where the main character (a vampire) is not "hideous, evil monster". Quite the contrary, in fact: he HUNTS those who fit that description. (Yes, he's a vampire hunter...who is a vampire.) He carries the decidedly ironic name of Jander Sunstar.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

I have read Rice, and he's got a point. There is certainly some male/male love and sexual interaction in her books, and as Lestat says, he is the 'gentleman' vampire. Rice's vampires are more romantic than scary.

I don't know that it appeals to wannabe goth girls, though.

I think you should reread the books. The entire point about the vampires is how dangerous they are.

By the way, the definition of a gentleman used by Lestat has nothing to do with being polite, it is entirely about hiding the corruption behind a facade. He had absolute contempt for everyone who refused to look beyond the surface and seek the truth.

Even her Sleeping Beauty series is more about the danger and seduction of power than the sex, and it was deliberately written to be about sex.

I have read the first 6 or 7 books multiple times. They are not scary vampires for the most part. One can be dangerous without being scary, at least in the Nosferatu, hideous evil monster sense. Rice's vampires are appealing. They are the heroes, whatever sins they might commit. They also tend to be very androgynous and there is a lot of pseudo-sexual tension, as well as outright acts of sex (such as when Armand gives a blowjob to his young, human protege).

Rice's vampires are beautiful and compelling and often, even when they feed, remain so.

Dracula isn't a scary vampire either, at least not in the sense that most people think of when they talk about fear. Quite a few professors see it as a comment on the sexual mores of the Victorian era and the repressed desires of women of that age.

 

[Luissa]

I think you should reread the books. The entire point about the vampires is how dangerous they are.

By the way, the definition of a gentleman used by Lestat has nothing to do with being polite, it is entirely about hiding the corruption behind a facade. He had absolute contempt for everyone who refused to look beyond the surface and seek the truth.

Even her Sleeping Beauty series is more about the danger and seduction of power than the sex, and it was deliberately written to be about sex.

I have read the first 6 or 7 books multiple times. They are not scary vampires for the most part. One can be dangerous without being scary, at least in the Nosferatu, hideous evil monster sense. Rice's vampires are appealing. They are the heroes, whatever sins they might commit. They also tend to be very androgynous and there is a lot of pseudo-sexual tension, as well as outright acts of sex (such as when Armand gives a blowjob to his young, human protege).

Rice's vampires are beautiful and compelling and often, even when they feed, remain so.

Dracula isn't a scary vampire either, at least not in the sense that most people think of when they talk about fear. Quite a few professors see it as a comment on the sexual mores of the Victorian era and the repressed desires of women of that age.

They probably have a point.