End All US Support to Israel

[Esdraelon]

I don't see how you can say this...the occupation began after Israel was attacked...live in peace and the occupation will subside...every action has an equal and opposite reaction....

European Jews began their Zionist project to transform Palestine into a Jewish majority state over 100 years ago. At that time there were ten times as man non-Jews as Jews living there. By 1948 when Israel came into existence the ratio had shrunk to 2:1. In 1967 when Jews stole the remaining 20% of Palestine, they immediately began filling the occupied territories with civilians in defiance of international law. State-sponsored terror has been Israel's first choice for maintaining their illegal occupation ever since.

The arabs should have taken the deal offered to them by the UN in 1947

They threw away a state of their own and have suffered ever since

They've done the same thing several times. All or nothing is going to leave them with...NOTHING.

 

[Esdraelon]

That kind of language could be construed as advocating murder. Your rhetoric here is old and boring but a newbie might just drop a dime on ya. The Left in DC are about to start taking people out through anonymous reporting and you might just get caught up in the net. Just sayin'...

The left in DC? They really hate me for what I write and post online. Quasi-military orders to take me out, too.

The post was in answer to our co-member, BIFF.
Edit to add... just to be clear, that was NOT a threat aimed at anyone. I don't play tattle tale games where people's lives are literally at stake but people do need to pay attention to the moves by the Dems in DC. They are spinning up a plan to go full STASI on Americans who are guilty of "wrong think". Watch it happen...

 

[justinacolmena]

Hamas is the enforcement arm of Mossad? Why would Israel Intelligence Agency use a radical muslim terrorist organization as their enforcement arm?

It's no different from vague or unspecified U.S. Military court-martial charges of "Misbehavior before the enemy" etc.

There's a "dog faced pony soldier" and orders to take him out straight from the white house.

 

[justinacolmena]

They are spinning up a plan to go full STASI on Americans who are guilty of "wrong think"

I know that, for sure.

 

[BS Filter]

All military aid on both sides should be on the table.
As well as UN sanctions
Weapons blockades
No fly zone

If you're advocating for an election in Israel/Palestine in which all residents of legal voting age decide their collective fate democratically, I think that event would require UNSC peacekeepers (US and China?) in the Jordan Valley for at least a generation.

Dozens of Palestinians injured in police clashes as Jewish extremists chanting 'Death of Arabs'

Do you have the guts to watch this?....

What does "guts" have to do with it?
I can see footage like that nearly every day from many places in the world.

There are no good guys here.
Just 15% or so of both populations who will not stop till they kill one another.

I don't have a solution.
No one's come up with a solution for over 70 years.
This is not about Jews and Muslims.
It is about people craving power and willing to murder innocents to get it.
I say if they want to kill one another
Let them,

The statement that there are no good guys here is debatable.....look at the picture...one side is trying to kill innocent civilians and the other is defending itself from rocket fire....is right from wrong this hard for libs to recognize?....if so it answers a lot of questions in our domestic politics....

The Godless will always side with the evil muslims.

Great idea dumbass.
Let's take a religious conflict
and
Add more useless religion to the mix.

You're one of the murderers who doesn't want peace, only power.

Oh, go to hell, you ignorant idiot. There will never be peace until the Lord returns. This isn't about religion, you ignorant snot. This is about the Living God's chosen and the devil's disciples. Again, there will never be peace until the Lord returns.

 

[danielpalos]

For a little perspective, the U.S. supports Sub-Sahara African nations to the tune of 8 billion dollars and everybody knows that Americans dare not even visit these countries or risk being killed (and eaten?). Israel is America's anchor in the Mid-East and sworn ally. Only a Marxist educated idiot would suggest abandoning Israel.

How much of the alleged $8 billion goes to US arms makers to back up murderous dictators willing to do business with corrupt western corporations?

The looting of the Congo

"The Democratic Republic of Congo has perhaps the richest concentration of precious metals and minerals on earth. Colette Braeckman describes how their exploitation by warring factions has fuelled the worst conflict anywhere since the Second World War."

Why are they not getting better solutions at lower cost for their money instead of just Arms?

 

[Mac-7]

They've done the same thing several times. All or nothing is going to leave them with...NOTHING.

Think Wylie Coyote with a turban

 

[justinacolmena]

The looting of the Congo

"The Democratic Republic of Congo has perhaps the richest concentration of precious metals and minerals on earth. Colette Braeckman describes how their exploitation by warring factions has fuelled the worst conflict anywhere since the Second World War."

There's gold. People steal, rob, extort, defraud, and obtain it wrongfully from others by deception and violence.

Why are they not getting better solutions at lower cost for their money instead of just Arms?

Gold, diamonds, and precious metals in a lawless district? We are left dirt poor and starving to death. There's no way on earth we the people can keep any of that stuff or anything else of value unless we have the guns to fight off all our enemies, thieves, robbers, and extortioners.

 

[Rambunctious]

 

[Snouter]

The golden age of Palestine before the Zionist takeover of Palestine (and the world in general as the Kabbalah dictates).

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Even if you believe Israel should not lose US charity due to the 1976 Symington Amendment (which forbids aid to rogue nuclear regimes), the latest example of ethnic cleansing in the Sheikh Jarrah neighborhood of East Jerusalem should end the weasel worded BS that assigns some utterly mendacious moral equivalency between occupier and occupied:

"MAY 14, 2021

End Military Support to Israel"​

"Militant right-wing Jewish settlers encouraged and protected by the government of corrupt Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu are trying to evict hundreds of Palestinian families from homes they have owned for decades in East Jerusalem, the Arab-dominated future capital of a Palestinian state if one is ever established.

"The settlers argue in court that the land in question was originally owned by a Jewish trust and should revert accordingly.

"However, as The New York Times notes, the apartheid regime treats people differently depending on their ethnicity: 'Israeli law allows Jews to reclaim ownership of land they vacated in 1948, but denies Palestinians the right to reclaim the properties they fled from in the same war.'"

Since Israel is the only thing standing between Iranian terrorists getting nuclear arms and us, now that we have an incompetent administration in charge of our country, we should do everything we can to support them.

Bullshit.

Nearly all the words and phrases used by the Democrats, Republicans and the talking heads on the media to describe the unrest inside Israel and the heaviest Israeli assault against the Palestinians since the 2014 attacks on Gaza, which lasted 51 days and killed more than 2,200 Palestinians, including 551 children, are a lie. Israel, by employing its military machine against an occupied population that does not have mechanized units, an air force, navy, missiles, heavy artillery and command-and-control, not to mention a U.S. commitment to provide a $38 billion defense aid package for Israel over the next decade, is not exercising "the right to defend itself." It is carrying out mass murder. It is a war crime.

Israel's big lie: This isn't self defense — it's a war crime, aided and abetted by the U.S. - Salon.com

Almost everything said in the U.S. about Israel's assault on the Palestinians is a lie — because we are implicated

www.salon.com

Netanyahu and all of the right wing extremists he has brought into the government should be executed. They are murders and terrorists, no different than ISIS.

But firing over 3000 missiles at CIVILIAN targets is just hoo hum right? RIGHT?

 

[georgephillip]

that is simply a lie the eviction is against a few Palestinians that have REFUSED to pay their rent.

Who told you that?
Netanyahu is an unbridled liar, but his supporters don't mind | Opinion

"Samira Dajani’s parents fled in 1948 from their home in Baka — now an upscale neighborhood in mostly Jewish west Jerusalem.

"After several years spent as refugees in Jordan, Syria and east Jerusalem, which was then controlled by Jordan, Jordanian authorities offered them one of several newly built homes in Sheikh Jarrah in exchange for giving up their refugee status.

"'I have beautiful memories from this house,' says Dajani, now 70, recalling how she played with the other children in the close-knit neighborhood, where several other Palestinian refugee families had also been resettled. 'It was like heaven after our exodus.'"

 

[georgephillip]

This is just another land grab and they'll simple kill those who resist.

And then WHINE about their right to self-defense.

 

[surada]

Even if you believe Israel should not lose US charity due to the 1976 Symington Amendment (which forbids aid to rogue nuclear regimes), the latest example of ethnic cleansing in the Sheikh Jarrah neighborhood of East Jerusalem should end the weasel worded BS that assigns some utterly mendacious moral equivalency between occupier and occupied:

"MAY 14, 2021

End Military Support to Israel"​

"Militant right-wing Jewish settlers encouraged and protected by the government of corrupt Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu are trying to evict hundreds of Palestinian families from homes they have owned for decades in East Jerusalem, the Arab-dominated future capital of a Palestinian state if one is ever established.

"The settlers argue in court that the land in question was originally owned by a Jewish trust and should revert accordingly.

"However, as The New York Times notes, the apartheid regime treats people differently depending on their ethnicity: 'Israeli law allows Jews to reclaim ownership of land they vacated in 1948, but denies Palestinians the right to reclaim the properties they fled from in the same war.'"

Since Israel is the only thing standing between Iranian terrorists getting nuclear arms and us, now that we have an incompetent administration in charge of our country, we should do everything we can to support them.

Bullshit.

Nearly all the words and phrases used by the Democrats, Republicans and the talking heads on the media to describe the unrest inside Israel and the heaviest Israeli assault against the Palestinians since the 2014 attacks on Gaza, which lasted 51 days and killed more than 2,200 Palestinians, including 551 children, are a lie. Israel, by employing its military machine against an occupied population that does not have mechanized units, an air force, navy, missiles, heavy artillery and command-and-control, not to mention a U.S. commitment to provide a $38 billion defense aid package for Israel over the next decade, is not exercising "the right to defend itself." It is carrying out mass murder. It is a war crime.

Israel's big lie: This isn't self defense — it's a war crime, aided and abetted by the U.S. - Salon.com

Almost everything said in the U.S. about Israel's assault on the Palestinians is a lie — because we are implicated

www.salon.com

Netanyahu and all of the right wing extremists he has brought into the government should be executed. They are murders and terrorists, no different than ISIS.

But firing over 3000 missiles at CIVILIAN targets is just hoo hum right? RIGHT?

This is just another land grab by the European Zionists. Read Moshe Dayan..He lays out in detail what the Israelis do to provoke the Arabs so they can justify killiing them and taking more land. Bibi is just a thug.. He's Israel's Trump.

 

[justinacolmena]

But firing over 3000 missiles at CIVILIAN targets is just hoo hum right? RIGHT?

Good grief. They're taking out social undesirables, mental defectives, and their families. They don't want to target their own Military assets.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

This is just another land grab and they'll simple kill those who resist.

And then WHINE about their right to self-defense.

Thats a funny one, gp, but not true. Listening to the western narrative lie and spit out propaganda continues on but is not true. Go over there and see for yourself.

 

[georgephillip]

The amount of cash and control of the planet the zionist regime has accumulated post WWII is in the trillions. The "support" is a clever gimmick for folks to argue about.

Delusions of lost grandeur?

Greater Israel - Wikipedia​

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"In politics​

"The Knesset Land of Israel Caucus, one of the largest lobby groups in the Knesset, has its main goal to strengthen Israel's hold on the West Bank."

 

[georgephillip]

That both right wing sides can keep themselves relevant by using people's lives like this, makes me sick.

That's a really excellent observation; both sides are led by reactionary fanatics.

 

[georgephillip]

Haven't you ever wondered if Hamas works for the Likkud?

Israel appears to have played a key role in creating Hamas?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Hamas#:~:text=1987%20%E2%80%93%20The%20founding%20of%20Hamas,-See%20also%3A%20First&text=In%201987%2C%20several%20Palestinians%20were,of%20Egypt's%20Muslim%20Brotherhood.

"The acronym 'Hamas' first appeared in 1987 in a leaflet that accused the Israeli intelligence services of undermining the moral fiber of Palestinian youth as part of Mossad's recruitment of what Hamas termed 'collaborators.'

"Nonetheless, Israeli military and intelligence was still focused on Fatah, and continued to maintain contacts with Gaza Islamic activists.

"Numerous Islamist leaders, including senior Hamas founder Mahmoud Zahar, met with Yitzhak Rabin as part of 'regular consultations' between Israeli officials and Palestinians not linked to the PLO."

 

[Dadoalex]

All military aid on both sides should be on the table.
As well as UN sanctions
Weapons blockades
No fly zone

If you're advocating for an election in Israel/Palestine in which all residents of legal voting age decide their collective fate democratically, I think that event would require UNSC peacekeepers (US and China?) in the Jordan Valley for at least a generation.

Dozens of Palestinians injured in police clashes as Jewish extremists chanting 'Death of Arabs'

Do you have the guts to watch this?....

What does "guts" have to do with it?
I can see footage like that nearly every day from many places in the world.

There are no good guys here.
Just 15% or so of both populations who will not stop till they kill one another.

I don't have a solution.
No one's come up with a solution for over 70 years.
This is not about Jews and Muslims.
It is about people craving power and willing to murder innocents to get it.
I say if they want to kill one another
Let them,

The statement that there are no good guys here is debatable.....look at the picture...one side is trying to kill innocent civilians and the other is defending itself from rocket fire....is right from wrong this hard for libs to recognize?....if so it answers a lot of questions in our domestic politics....

So, who are the good guys?
The one's murdering innocents with rockets...
Or the one murdering innocents with missiles?

Israel is an apartheid state with Muslims on the bottom.
Before 1949 Palestine was an Apartheid state with the Jews on the bottom.

There are no good guys.
Just oppressors on either side and their victims.

Don't pull that BS....we all know that Hamas puts their military assets in civilian areas...that is a Muslim war tactic...Hamas is firing rockets at civilians not at military assets of Israel....

And we know Israel is more than willing to murder innocents.

No good guys
No bad guys

Just people starving for power and willing to kill to get it.