Elon side with Massie (against Trump)

[Oddball]

I can understand if we were talking about obscure subjects. Some of this stuff is right up there with "sky is blue" and you can't get somebody to believe it until you come up with some complex intellectual quote from someplace.

When you understand that it's already common knowledge that this stuff is being found via the payment systems that the left is still fighting so hard to keep buried, the "without evidence" blather is easily dismissed as the unserious claptrap that it is.

 

[BluesLegend]

Ignoring what's actually going on, and trying to change the subject to the democrats. It's not about them. It's about Trump lying to his supporters again. It's about him spending more than we're saving. It's about the feud that's coming between DOGE, Trump and MAGA.

Within a month, Trump and his supporters are going to be lashing out at Elon. For the same reason they lash out at fiscal conservatives.

your attempts to divide us and sow division is classic Dem regime.

 

[YoursTruly]

People are going to have differences of opinion. It's a shocka, I tell ya!

Not according to Trump supporters.
You're either in lock step, kissing Trumps ring. Or you're a ______________ (what ever retarded name the MAGA people can come up with)
A month or so ago, y'all was calling Chip Roy an obstructionist because he wanted more cuts than Trump.

 

[YoursTruly]

Who is committing all of this fraud? Who has been arrested for defrauding the American taxpayers?

The “great job” you’re talking about is making allegations of fraud. As for “waste”, waste is in the eye of the beholder...the statement means little. One could call the Mars Rover a waste. I don’t think it is but one could make the allegation which is all Musk and DOGE have done.

The Mars rover is a waste.

 

[YoursTruly]

The Democrat taxpayer-robbing self perpetuation machine is toast, so there's that.

A hell of a lot of that robbing was done with Trumps signature on it, from when he was president. Including that covid spending.

 

[Meister]

The sole purpose of DOGE is to cut fraud and waste. To save the American tax payers money. To try and balance the budget and pay down the national debt. And so far, they've done a great job of finding a TON of fraud and waste.
But then Trump and Johnson have teamed up to spend way more than DOGE has tried to save.

It's going to come a point, soon, where Elon simply calls Trump a liar and a fraud himself. Especially since both Trump and Johnson support increasing the debt ceiling. There's only 1 reason to increase it. To spend more money.

Elon Musk Issues Warning About Donald Trump-Backed GOP Budget Bill​

Elon Musk has raised concerns over a Republican-backed budget resolution supported by President Donald Trump, warning that the legislation could significantly worsen inflation and drive the U.S. economy toward bankruptcy.

Musk, in a repost reply to a post by Representative Thomas Massie, the only GOP member of Congress to vote down the resolution, alleged the reported spending in the resolution would continue to drive inflation.

Why It Matters​

The budget resolution, which includes $4.5 trillion in tax cuts over the next decade and anticipates $2 trillion in spending reductions, also raises the national debt ceiling by $4 trillion. Despite Republican leaders celebrating the bill as a step toward implementing Trump's economic vision, critics—including Musk—argue that the numbers don't add up.




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My question is.....are these from the CBO? If so, I have an issue with the numbers.
If not, I have questions about the numbers.

 

[YoursTruly]

Maybe Musk is right. I want to see most of these savings go toward balancing the budget and deficit reduction.

They're "savings." Not reimbursements they can send to the treasury. That money is gone.
The only thing they can "save" is to not spend it on those same things. But since Trump is planning on more overspending, the debt, deficit and debt ceiling will still be increased.
And until they release the details of the next CR, there maybe just as much fraud and waste in it, going to something else.
Like overspending on the MIC. Over spending on the border.

 

[YoursTruly]

your attempts to divide us and sow division is classic Dem regime.

Trump and Johnson are the ones conning people. Not Elon or DOGE.
Elon is just calling a spade a spade.

 

[BluesLegend]

Trump and Johnson are the ones conning people. Not Elon or DOGE.
Elon is just calling a spade a spade.

Still not divided and still supporting best president of all time TRUMP! If you people think you can divide us, think again. Your pathetic attempts bounce off like cotton balls. We just laugh at you. Here see

 

[candycorn]

The Mars rover is a waste.

Again, that's your opinion.

I disagree but I can see where you would say that. The benefits to mankind are far off into the future if humans are to become a multi-planet species. I think the investment is worth it. And that is my opinion.

The best minds across multiple and divergent political administrations didn't think it was a waste. So we have it.

Given his track record and his 0-for-1000 batting average, I doubt Trump and his thug administration know more than these other scientists.

 

[candycorn]

Bringing criminals to justice is not for DOGE.

Correct. But they could refer them to the DOJ, and announce publicly who specifically is being accused of the crime.

Why haven't they done that? Oh yeah...because there is no proof of any fraud; just allegations.

Your blob is failing at this too.

 

[MagicMike]

Just relax, on the right we don't agree on every issue and that's okay, unlike the Democrat Borg drone collective.

You funny.
How do you think Trump is gonna handle being contradicted by his Nazi Afrikaneer pimp?

 

[BluesLegend]

You funny.
How do you think Trump is gonna handle being contradicted by his Nazi Afrikaneer pimp?

"Nazi Afrikaneer pimp" yeah you people should be in charge.

 

[xyz]

The sole purpose of DOGE is to provide tax cuts for the extremely wealthy.

And yes, it is also the Democrats' fault, and they also failed to strengthen the state and against abuses and corruption, which have now reached historical highs.

 

[justoffal]

Correct. But they could refer them to the DOJ, and announce publicly who specifically is being accused of the crime.

Why haven't they done that? Oh yeah...because there is no proof of any fraud; just allegations.

Your blob is failing at this too.

Don't know if they can do that or not. It's a little early I suspect we're going to see charges bought soon .. in any case it's hard to pro e intention with a lot of this stuff. In a longstanding climate of fraud...I would think most of the players were simply doing what their bosses told them to do.
It's more important for the fraud to stop than it is to chase down people and put them in jail.

 

[YoursTruly]

Again, that's your opinion.

I disagree but I can see where you would say that. The benefits to mankind are far off into the future if humans are to become a multi-planet species. I think the investment is worth it. And that is my opinion.

The best minds across multiple and divergent political administrations didn't think it was a waste. So we have it.

Given his track record and his 0-for-1000 batting average, I doubt Trump and his thug administration know more than these other scientists.

It's not my opinion. It's fact that we're $36.5 trillion in debt and can't afford any more space missions. All that space money isn't making the US any money.

 

[candycorn]

It's not my opinion. It's fact that we're $36.5 trillion in debt and can't afford any more space missions. All that space money isn't making the US any money.

Neither is any of the new classes of submarines, fighter jets, destroyers, etc... the military wastes trillions on. The budget of NASA is miniscule to the funding of the DoD.

 

[candycorn]

Don't know if they can do that or not. It's a little early I suspect we're going to see charges bought soon .. in any case it's hard to pro e intention with a lot of this stuff. In a longstanding climate of fraud...I would think most of the players were simply doing what their bosses told them to do.

Okay...so when do you think we'll see indictments? By Memorial Day at least right?

It's more important for the fraud to stop than it is to chase down people and put them in jail.

And not punishing people is the way to stop fraud?

Here is where you defy logic and tell us "yes" cult boy. Go ahead...

 

[Cellblock2429]

The sole purpose of DOGE is to cut fraud and waste. To save the American tax payers money. To try and balance the budget and pay down the national debt. And so far, they've done a great job of finding a TON of fraud and waste.
But then Trump and Johnson have teamed up to spend way more than DOGE has tried to save.

It's going to come a point, soon, where Elon simply calls Trump a liar and a fraud himself. Especially since both Trump and Johnson support increasing the debt ceiling. There's only 1 reason to increase it. To spend more money.

Elon Musk Issues Warning About Donald Trump-Backed GOP Budget Bill​

Elon Musk has raised concerns over a Republican-backed budget resolution supported by President Donald Trump, warning that the legislation could significantly worsen inflation and drive the U.S. economy toward bankruptcy.

Musk, in a repost reply to a post by Representative Thomas Massie, the only GOP member of Congress to vote down the resolution, alleged the reported spending in the resolution would continue to drive inflation.

Why It Matters​

The budget resolution, which includes $4.5 trillion in tax cuts over the next decade and anticipates $2 trillion in spending reductions, also raises the national debt ceiling by $4 trillion. Despite Republican leaders celebrating the bill as a step toward implementing Trump's economic vision, critics—including Musk—argue that the numbers don't add up.




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/—-/ democRATs are now trying to drive a wedge between Trump and Musk. Yesterday, a libtard reporter tried driving a wedge between Musk and Rubio. Trump shut him down immediately.
You losers are pathetic.

 

[YoursTruly]

/—-/ democRATs are now trying to drive a wedge between Trump and Musk. Yesterday, a libtard reporter tried driving a wedge between Musk and Rubio. Trump shut him down immediately.
You losers are pathetic.

Who cares what the democrats or doing. Or your BS innuendo that I'm one of them.
What us FC's are doing is exposing the truth about Trumps lies and campaign promises of balancing the budget, eliminating government over spending and all that other BS he lied about.

Trump is still the big spending, big government RINO he always was.

Yall will never admit it. Even if Trump signs this upcoming CR. Even if Trump eliminates the debt ceiling. You're still going to simp for him.