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There is a fix for this you know. Instead of having your tax money filtered through corrupt bureaucrats you can just....donate directly to charity.
Elon Musk……..Humanitarian
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There is a fix for this you know. Instead of having your tax money filtered through corrupt bureaucrats you can just....donate directly to charity.
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Problem with Reagans approach is that he didn't have a brilliant Entrepeneur leading a team of smart young, volunteer go getters on his committee, he had politicians and bureaucrats running the show, not to mention DOGE is using the recent Chevron decision brilliantly and by all appearances has the full support of POTUS.
DOGE is taking a private sector approach to the problem not the typical red taped laced, bureaucratic Washington D.C. approach, IMHO that's why it's working.
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I just love whenver you guys rail against the uber rich (like Bill Gates) and then refer to him as a saint after the fact.
Reagan proved that if you tackle the inefficiencies of Government seriously, it can be done. The Grace commission did an excellent job but Democrats stomped their feet and caused part of it not to be enacted. I am not aware that the Grace commission was volunteers. I will check into that claim.
It was composed of top ranked business people. They could afford to volunteer. I can't find word if they got paid or not. Private donations funded it per the official statement.
In February 1982, Ronald Reagan announced at a press conference that he would form a group of “outstanding experts from the private sector” that would conduct an in-depth review of the entire Executive Branch, and make recommendations for eliminating waste and inefficiency. On June 30 he issued the Executive Order establishing the President’s Private Sector Survey on Cost Control in the Federal Government (PPSSCC). The PPSSCC was popularly called the “Grace Commission” after its Chairman J. Peter Grace, the CEO of W. R. Grace & Company.
Mr. Grace oversaw the PPSSCC Executive Committee, a group of over 150 prominent business leaders who volunteered their time as overseers and members of the PPSSCC Task Forces. Each of the 36 Task Forces reviewed particular Executive Branch agencies or functions. The Foundation for the President’s Private Sector Cost Control Survey, a separate organization led by Mr. Grace, raised private donations to fund the PPSSCC. The PPSSCC Management Office, led by NSC detailees James “Bud” Nance (1982-83) and Nancy Colson, worked with the Department of Commerce to provide support on computer issues, agency liaison, and other related matters. The White House Counsel’s Office supplied legal advice on PPSSCC organization and functioning, and coordinated the personnel clearance process for members of the Executive Committee.
The PPSSCC was originally given six months to complete its work, but subsequent Executive Orders postponed the deadline to January 1984. The Commission’s final Report to the President contained about 2500 specific recommendations for reform. Each task force issued a final report as well. The White House Office of Cabinet Affairs assumed Administration responsibility for tracking the implementation of the PPSSCC’s recommendations. After about a year, this tracking responsibility was transferred to OMB. Most of the recommendations, especially those requiring legislation from Congress, were never implemented. However, the Commission’s work provided a starting point for many conservative critiques of the federal government.
If any poster wishes to look at some of the Reagan records about terrorism, this will help you on that quest.
Gates got rich from we citizens buying his products. The man did help foreigners. But what help did he give to Americans whose money made him rich? As to him no longer being very rich, let's look at this now.
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Yes, Bill Gates is rich. He is a billionaire and one of the world's richest people.
How rich is Bill Gates?
- As of February 2025, Gates' net worth was estimated to be around $107 billion.
- He was the world's richest person from 1995 to 2008, except for a few years.
- He was the first person to become a centibillionaire, with a net worth of over $100 billion.
- Gates is the co-founder of Microsoft, and still owns a large amount of the company.
- He has also invested in other companies, including Cascade Investment, TerraPower, and Branded Entertainment Network.
- He has real estate assets, including a private island and a 20-acre estate in Florida.
- Gates is the co-founder of Microsoft, and still owns a large amount of the company.
I have some simple questions.
1. If the Feds can't go broke, why do the Democrats insist in raising taxes by raiding incomes of particular citizens? If it works as you think, it never should need such taxes as it can't go broke as you explain things.
2. You seem to see Billionaires as bad yet the entity that is worth trillions you defend.
3. The Government was never established to rule the citizens, it was established to serve the citizens.
When I was a director of a corporation, I noticed there it operated against the wishes or needs of the members. I see the Federal Government has in the past operated that same way.
That is what Bill Gates did. My objection as I understand this is that Gates focus was not here in America, but over in Africa and perhaps other areas not in America. I never speak against that since he used money from his wealth.
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Gates looked at poverty in the world and where he can have the biggest impact. The biggest poverty in the world was Africa and Asia.
I think if he looked at those who use Microsoft Excel and PowerPoint, not many are wondering where they will get their next meal
Yes I agree he did that. We are not as poor as Democrats keep telling us we are.
The way I look at Gates is he does it with his own resources. I wish he plowed that money here in the USA where he got it, but still it's his to do as he pleases.
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I think Bill Gates gets it
Uber rich like Andrew Carnegie and Henry Ford also got it.
They wanted their legacy to be what they did to help people rather than how much wealth they had.
The legacy of Elon Musk will be that he withheld food and healthcare from starving people
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USAID was a money-laundering scheme. You're either benefiting from that, or just too dumb to realize it.
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Nothing like MAGAlogiks I tell ya.
Democrats hated Bill Gates for many years. I used to fend for Gates when he got attacked by Democrats. Carnegie was the first rich man accused by Democrats that I studied and learned the bad raps on him were nonsense. Now Democrat changed their minds on him.
Musk has not stopped any food or health care from whom claims are starving. Who appointed the USA as the place who supports all other countries?
Funds never went to Americans other than graft from having their hands on the money, supposedly it went to help nations. We will see after Musk digs out the worms from this nest.
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As of today, Musk has directed the recall of all USAID employees overseas in anticipation of termination
Why does the US provide humanitarian support to other countries? Because we are the wealthiest country on earth and it is the right thing to do.
It is a carrot and stick situation
We don’t want other nations to look at us as the stick to beat them into compliance
Often it is better to offer the carrot and be the nation that helps people
That's so silly. Dismantling fraud, Corruption and waste in bloated USAID was a service to this country.
LIST: 'Insane priorities' of USAID spending during Biden Administration
In the past week, there has been a lot of discussion around the USAID and where the billions of dollars in humanitarian aid actually goes.
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