Elon Musk has made a serious mistake

[krichton]

His kid was.

Prove it.

 

[westwall]

Prove it.

Prove what? You require no proof for your crap.

 

[ClaireH]

Show me evidence where any of the journalists, must less one actually did any kind of "doxxing" GO! I'll wait.

Specifics: 9 journalist accounts involved (although MSM would have us falsely believe the number of temporary suspensions were in the upper double digits by their inflamed headlines)-

“Journalists Ryan Mac of the New York Times, Drew Harwell of The Washington Post, Donie O'Sullivan of CNN, Matt Binder of Mashable, Micah Lee of The Intercept, Steven Herman of VOA, along with Aaron Rupar, Tony Webster, and Keith Olbermann, all found their Twitter accounts suspended on Thursday.”

Musk posted a picture of one of these “journalists”, in actuality no more than an article writer, in his car, his car and front license plate, and no surprise the guy in the car sitting alone was wearing a mask lol Musk had his young son with him. As a parent, that stands out more than anything. No way should any person, much less one of these article writers who pretend to be journalists, be given a free pass to set someone up!

As Musk stated, no journalist will be treated special and everyone will be treated the same on Twitter for the exact behavior. Doxing is giving actual real-time coordinates that could easily lead to an assassination attempt by some nut case, and anyone with half a brain knows that these events happen.

 

[ClaireH]

Except none of the journalists broke any rules. That is why all their accounts have all been reinstated immediately. Even the guy he said "doxxed" him by giving out "assassination coordinates," lmaoo. Do you understand now that all the right wing bullshit you read on a daily basis is nothing but a trough of lies being spoon fed to unsuspecting idiots that will simply believe anything? This was simply another example of Elon telling us, he's a bullshit artist.

There's one set of rules for everyone, just like there is one set of laws for everyone in this country. It just so happens that liberals tend to follow the rules Twitter has in place and maga doesnt. When criminals are caught and prosecuted do you complain that they're being "singled out?" I guess that's one way to look at it, but the reality is, if you break the rules you're going to suffer the consequences. It's no different on Twitter. If Twitter has a rule in place to quit it with the flat earth talk, and "patriots" won't stop, guess what's going to happen to the "patriots." Own up to your own mistakes and take some responsibility.

Musk put it to a vote on Twitter, 4 choices for public answer- majority won reinstating them much sooner than my vote (7 days). Leave kids out of it.

 

[Foxfyre]

Except none of the journalists broke any rules. That is why all their accounts have all been reinstated immediately. Even the guy he said "doxxed" him by giving out "assassination coordinates," lmaoo. Do you understand now that all the right wing bullshit you read on a daily basis is nothing but a trough of lies being spoon fed to unsuspecting idiots that will simply believe anything? This was simply another example of Elon telling us, he's a bullshit artist.

There's one set of rules for everyone, just like there is one set of laws for everyone in this country. It just so happens that liberals tend to follow the rules Twitter has in place and maga doesnt. When criminals are caught and prosecuted do you complain that they're being "singled out?" I guess that's one way to look at it, but the reality is, if you break the rules you're going to suffer the consequences. It's no different on Twitter. If Twitter has a rule in place to quit it with the flat earth talk, and "patriots" won't stop, guess what's going to happen to the "patriots." Own up to your own mistakes and take some responsibility.

I've been on Twitter long enough to observe up close and personal that liberals don't follow the rules any better than anybody else. I had an account doxxed by a liberal pretending to be a Patriot. Reported it. Nothing whatsoever happened to that person. The journalists did do something wrong or they would not have been suspended. They were reinstated because public opinion on Twitter said they should be. Period end.

 

[otto105]

Musk kept the identical rules in place re what constituted allowable and disallowable tweets. The ONLY difference now is that he is applying those rules even handedly. Those on the right are no longer singled out for special harassment by selectively appling the rules in contorted ways to punish them. Those on the left now have to follow the rules same as the Patriots/those on the right do. Those so-called 'journalists' no longer had protection to break the rules as they had before.

Free speech does not mean that libel, slander, deliberate malicious disinformation or other stuff against the rules is allowed any more than it means that in any other reputable place with sensible rules.

That’s bullshit

 

[ClaireH]

I've been on Twitter long enough to observe up close and personal that liberals don't follow the rules any better than anybody else. I had an account doxxed by a liberal pretending to be a Patriot. Reported it. Nothing whatsoever happened to that person. The journalists did do something wrong or they would not have been suspended. They were reinstated because public opinion on Twitter said they should be. Period end.

I listened earlier to what is referred to as Space on Twitter to hear a group of right and left journalists who have at one time or another had an account suspended. This group included those journalists recently suspended for a day. One journalist (anti-Musk) said he didn’t know why he’d been recently ghost banned, but another (pro Musk) journalist responded that his account had also been ghosted so he thought retweeting a post from a banned account did it, or a glitch in the algorithm.

It is worth noting that this was live and around 10,000 listeners on when I was on. Anyway, my point is Musk allowing this public round table discussion, full of dissidents, looks pretty positive to me in the name of free speech.

 

[Foxfyre]

I listened earlier to what is referred to as Space on Twitter to hear a group of right and left journalists who have at one time or another had an account suspended. This group included those journalists recently suspended for a day. One journalist (anti-Musk) said he didn’t know why he’d been recently ghost banned, but another (pro Musk) journalist responded that his account had also been ghosted so he thought retweeting a post from a banned account did it, or a glitch in the algorithm.

It is worth noting that this was live and around 10,000 listeners on when I was on. Anyway, my point is Musk allowing this public round table discussion, full of dissidents, looks pretty positive to me in the name of free speech.

The leftists have smeared, trashed, cruelly taunted, mischaracterized, lied about, unrelentedly harassed Elon Musk on Twitter and he shrugs it all off and no action is ever taken against his tormenters. Some of it got pretty funny like when he and AOC got into a dust up and both were jokingly accusing the other of being romantically interested despite their strong disagreements. I had to applaud both for the way they handled it.

It harkened back to the elegant verbal battles of history:
During one of the Lincoln-Douglas debates, U.S. Senator Stephen Douglas called Abraham Lincoln "two-faced." To which Lincoln replied, "I leave it to my audience. If I had another face, do you think I would wear this one?"

That is what civil discourse, disagreement, differences of opinion look like in civil society.

But when somebody is intentionally or unintentionally putting out information that endangers somebody else, I would hope he would act in those cases every single time.

 

[krichton]

Specifics: 9 journalist accounts involved (although MSM would have us falsely believe the number of temporary suspensions were in the upper double digits by their inflamed headlines)-

“Journalists Ryan Mac of the New York Times, Drew Harwell of The Washington Post, Donie O'Sullivan of CNN, Matt Binder of Mashable, Micah Lee of The Intercept, Steven Herman of VOA, along with Aaron Rupar, Tony Webster, and Keith Olbermann, all found their Twitter accounts suspended on Thursday.”

Musk posted a picture of one of these “journalists”, in actuality no more than an article writer, in his car, his car and front license plate, and no surprise the guy in the car sitting alone was wearing a mask lol Musk had his young son with him. As a parent, that stands out more than anything. No way should any person, much less one of these article writers who pretend to be journalists, be given a free pass to set someone up!

As Musk stated, no journalist will be treated special and everyone will be treated the same on Twitter for the exact behavior. Doxing is giving actual real-time coordinates that could easily lead to an assassination attempt by some nut case, and anyone with half a brain knows that these events happen.

The mere fact that Elon is suspending any journalists at all, much less at a whim, runs completely counter to his claim that he's a "free speech absolutist." He even claimed that he would never suspend even his worst critics. This is a quote directly from him. It's all bullshit, all of it.

How does someone in a car following Elon relate in any way to banning journalists off Twitter? How did they set Elon up? In what way? Why won't someone answer my question?

Anyone with half a brain knows "doxxing" anyone is virtually impossible, unless you have a personal tracking device on said person that can track their location down to 15 feet. Now prove to me, that any one of the journalists have such a technology and used it in the way Elon described.

 

[Foxfyre]

The mere fact that Elon is suspending any journalists at all, much less at a whim, runs completely counter to his claim that he's a "free speech absolutist." He even claimed that he would never suspend even his worst critics. This is a quote directly from him. It's all bullshit, all of it.

How does someone in a car following Elon relate in any way to banning journalists off Twitter? How did they set Elon up? In what way? Why won't someone answer my question?

Anyone with half a brain knows "doxxing" anyone is virtually impossible, unless you have a personal tracking device on said person that can track their location down to 15 feet. Now prove to me, that any one of the journalists have such a technology and used it in the way Elon described.

That is pure and utter nonsense.
And doxxing is quite easy to do when you know who a person is. It is vile and inexcusable but far too common.
Free speech never intended to allow libel.
Free speech never intended to allow slander.
Free speech never intended to allow bullying.
Free speech never intended for public interaction to include peddling child porn or illegal drugs or plotting other crimes.
Free speech means that anyone can express a personal opinion about ANYTHING without worrying about being physically or materially attacked for it. That means politics, religion, socioeconomic issues, everything. It is a concept far too many on all sides of the political spectrum have never grasped or understood, most especially too many in the media these days.

 

[Synthaholic]

 

[Synthaholic]

December 7 and it still has not come to pass.

 

[krichton]

I've been on Twitter long enough to observe up close and personal that liberals don't follow the rules any better than anybody else. I had an account doxxed by a liberal pretending to be a Patriot. Reported it. Nothing whatsoever happened to that person. The journalists did do something wrong or they would not have been suspended. They were reinstated because public opinion on Twitter said they should be. Period end.

Except the left isn't posting wacked out and dangerous conspiracy lies about election fraud, they're not posting their dangerous unhinged pharmaceutical advice for treating covid, they're not spreading false information about the virus that can and has gotten countless people either killed or come down long covid as a consolation prize. The left isn't "targeted" because they abide by these rules.

Public opinion doesn't reverse rule violations. If users truly violated the rules, Elon wouldn't be asking ppl whether he should keep ppl banned or not.

Prove what? You require no proof for your crap.

I'm not the one making the claim.

 

[krichton]

That is pure and utter nonsense.
And doxxing is quite easy to do when you know who a person is. It is vile and inexcusable but far too common.
Free speech never intended to allow libel.
Free speech never intended to allow slander.
Free speech never intended to allow bullying.
Free speech never intended for public interaction to include peddling child porn or illegal drugs or plotting other crimes.
Free speech means that anyone can express a personal opinion about ANYTHING without worrying about being physically or materially attacked for it. That means politics, religion, socioeconomic issues, everything. It is a concept far too many on all sides of the political spectrum have never grasped or understood, most especially too many in the media these days.

If it's so easy, why can't you explain how journalist(s) are able to pinpoint Elon's exact location in real time when all they're doing is just reporting on the elonjet story? This is not a situation about revealing someone's phone number or their address. We are talking about active tracking, which means you know exactly where they are, where theyre going, in real time. Now explain how this is so "easily" done. Go!

 

[krichton]

Musk put it to a vote on Twitter, 4 choices for public answer- majority won reinstating them much sooner than my vote (7 days). Leave kids out of it.

I agree, leave kids out of it. No kids were involved in any of the reporting by the journalists, so they also left kids out of it. I'm glad that was settled.

 

[ClaireH]

I agree, leave kids out of it. No kids were involved in any of the reporting by the journalists, so they also left kids out of it. I'm glad that was settled.

Not settled. Musk’s son was with him during the car incident. A pic was taken of the masked male, his car, front license plate identified on Twitter by Musk.

 

[Synthaholic]

 

[krichton]

Not settled. Musk’s son was with him during the car incident. A pic was taken of the masked male, his car, front license plate identified on Twitter by Musk.

And? You still have yet to clarify your statement explaining how journalists covering the elonjet story are responsible for giving out his exact coordinates in real time. Now tell me.

 

[ClaireH]

And? You still have yet to clarify your statement explaining how journalists covering the elonjet story are responsible for giving out his exact coordinates in real time. Now tell me.

You are a fine example Krichton of a person who can use either a phone or a computer to access this board but void of comprehension ability. This is my last repetitive post to you, but since you’ve remained clueless this deep into the thread I don’t hold out much hope for you.

Doxxing a person’s location is not the same thing as reporting about it 5 minutes later. Doxxing is not a live interview, doxxing is real time location live movements, tracking a person’s movements with live feed without that person’s knowledge.

Musk was doxxed, a couple of other journalists jumped on board to join in, they were temporarily suspended and reinstated. Get over it and stop your deception.

Wise readers, as you know you should look for primary sources and not take the advice of any third-party, on this board or otherwise. Anyone interested to learn the truth go to Twitter and find out the facts, unlike this fool Krichton who likes to waste everyone’s time and screen space.

 

[krichton]

You are a fine example Krichton of a person who can use either a phone or a computer to access this board but void of comprehension ability. This is my last repetitive post to you, but since you’ve remained clueless this deep into the thread I don’t hold out much hope for you.

Doxxing a person’s location is not the same thing as reporting about it 5 minutes later. Doxxing is not a live interview, doxxing is real time location live movements, tracking a person’s movements with live feed without that person’s knowledge.

Musk was doxxed, a couple of other journalists jumped on board to join in, they were temporarily suspended and reinstated. Get over it and stop your deception.

Wise readers, as you know you should look for primary sources and not take the advice of any third-party, on this board or otherwise. Anyone interested to learn the truth go to Twitter and find out the facts, unlike this fool Krichton who likes to waste everyone’s time and screen space.

So you go to Twitter for your "facts?" Figures. If it's not Twitter, it's facebook, or whatever random overnight blogs you find on the dark web, maybe you're on some sort of mailing list as well. This is why you don't know anything, only your right wing babble. You all read off the same script. Look at your latest response for example. I ask you over and over again to provide an explanation of how journalists are able to give out pinpoint coordinates to Elon's exact location at all times simply from reporting on the elonjet story, and you just read off the same maga script of simply repeating whatever Elon told you. Like literally not an ounce of independent thought is going on here. I'll ask the question again just for funsies, "how would a journalist be able to give real time locations of Elon's movements simply by tweeting or writing a story about elonjet? You'll never be able to answer this question because you can't. Even the people here who were backing this story have left this conversation after being pressed on it. This is what happens when you trust the words of a liar, and never think for yourselves.