Elizabeth Warren: Fork, Done, etc

[Lakhota]

Warren is a good woman. I hope they soon get off her back.

 

[Artevelde]

Warren is a good woman. I hope they soon get off her back.

I don't know about Warren. She clearly has been dishonest, as have many other politicians. As for you, you are clearly an intolerant loser.

 

[Sarah G]

Warren is a good woman. I hope they soon get off her back.

She is good and also tough, this is politics. They are polling neck and neck and this is just one ploy that could bring her down. They've got a million of them.

Hope she makes it through. She'll be a great senator.

 

[Lakhota]

Warren is a good woman. I hope they soon get off her back.

She is good and also tough, this is politics. They are polling neck and neck and this is just one ploy that could bring her down. They've got a million of them.

Hope she makes it through. She'll be a great senator.

Amen!

 

[LeftofLeft]

Papaw said she had high cheekbones like the Cherokee. Can there be no doubt?

 

[SniperFire]

You do realize that you're more of a strict racialist than the most diehard Nazi's ever were?

You're a dumb hothead, so what's your point?

You seem to feel that one ancestor many generations ago still makes her a native American. The Nazi's would never have categorized somebody with one Jewish ancestor that far back as a Jew. It would seem the Nazi's were a bit less racially obsessed than you.

Lahkota would have made a fine Hitler youth.

 

[FA_Q2]

Who the hell cares. The real travesty here is that claiming to be a native American at all would have somehow helped her get a position anyway. It seems that discrimination is all right I guess as long as it is discriminating for a special interest group....

 

[Sallow]

Elizabeth Warren Did Not Claim Minority Status, Records Show

Gee, what a surprise...HuffPo is defending a liberal Democrat!

The gist of that article is that Warren didn't claim minority status when she was a student at Rutgers nor when she taught at the University of Texas...as if that in some way excuses the fact that she led people to believe she was a minority at Harvard and Penn.

It's the old...well I did do something wrong twice...but I didn't do it wrong four times...so therefore I didn't do it wrong at all. Convoluted logic even for the idiots at Huffington Post.

Here's the cool thing. The actual "Principle Chief" of the Cherokee Nation, Bill John Baker is about as "Cherokee" as Warren.

Elizabeth Warren: Guilty of Being White

Tim Murphy tells the dark, sad tale of Elizabeth Warren's "Native American" fooferah. Short version: Harvard used to list her as a "Native American" member of faculty. She didn't correct them for years. And she's only 1/32 Native American, at least, borrowing the heritage from her maternal great-grandmother. It's killing her (at least right now), in part because "Massachusetts has a large population of political columnists who make teepee jokes."

A theory: These columnists aren't aware of how non-First Nation you can look and still be accepted by the Nation. Murphy points out that Cherokee Nation Principal Chief Bill John Baker is only 1/32 Cherokee. I'm reminded of a recent White House announcement of Native American hires.


There are actually several firsts in this Administration. Hilary Tompkins (Navajo Nation) is the first Native American Solicitor of the Department of the Interior. Brad Carson (Cherokee Nation) is the first Native American General Counsel of the Department of Army.


That would be this Brad Carson.



Carson held Oklahoma's tradtionally Democratic seat in Congress from 2001 to 2005, lost a race for Senate, and then joined the Cherokee nation as its CEO for business. In 2011, the Obama administration nominated him for the Army job. He's 1/8 Cherokee, hence the inclusion in the "firsts.

Ain't it cool?

 

[Sallow]

You're a dumb hothead, so what's your point?

You seem to feel that one ancestor many generations ago still makes her a native American. The Nazi's would never have categorized somebody with one Jewish ancestor that far back as a Jew. It would seem the Nazi's were a bit less racially obsessed than you.

Lahkota would have made a fine Hitler youth.

Like Pope Ratzinger?

 

[Oldstyle]

What's amusing to me is while the Warren camp hasn't trotted out any proof at all that there is Indian blood in the Warren bloodline...her internet "defenders" have already taken as gospel that she is 1/32 Indian on her mother's side.

Funny how I can trace my ancestors all the way back to the 1600's but poor Elizabeth can't seem to trace HER'S back four generations. Here's a dose of cold reality, Warren supporters...if there really WAS any Indian blood in Lizzie's past...they would have trotted it out at the first mention that she'd falsely claimed minority status.

 

[Artevelde]

You're a dumb hothead, so what's your point?

You seem to feel that one ancestor many generations ago still makes her a native American. The Nazi's would never have categorized somebody with one Jewish ancestor that far back as a Jew. It would seem the Nazi's were a bit less racially obsessed than you.

Lahkota would have made a fine Hitler youth.

Maybe too racist for the Hitler Youth.

 

[BDBoop]

What's amusing to me is while the Warren camp hasn't trotted out any proof at all that there is Indian blood in the Warren bloodline...her internet "defenders" have already taken as gospel that she is 1/32 Indian on her mother's side.

Funny how I can trace my ancestors all the way back to the 1600's but poor Elizabeth can't seem to trace HER'S back four generations. Here's a dose of cold reality, Warren supporters...if there really WAS any Indian blood in Lizzie's past...they would have trotted it out at the first mention that she'd falsely claimed minority status.

To that I would say that probably her biggest 'sin' in all this is not getting a handle on the press when it first started, i.e., not taking it seriously enough.

Allowing her 'minority status' to be used by the universities in question wasn't a good idea, either.

I'm not against her, but that doesn't matter. I'm not from her state. And I do believe she'd make a great senator, but this story may have ended all that, simply because she did not act aggressively when it broke.

 

[Sallow]

What's amusing to me is while the Warren camp hasn't trotted out any proof at all that there is Indian blood in the Warren bloodline...her internet "defenders" have already taken as gospel that she is 1/32 Indian on her mother's side.

Funny how I can trace my ancestors all the way back to the 1600's but poor Elizabeth can't seem to trace HER'S back four generations. Here's a dose of cold reality, Warren supporters...if there really WAS any Indian blood in Lizzie's past...they would have trotted it out at the first mention that she'd falsely claimed minority status.

Why should she?

Does it make her not fit to run?

I mean..it's not like she posed naked in a magazine or something.

And even then..you can still run.

 

[Oldstyle]

Give us some "credible" proof of her supposed dishonesty?

It has been posted by several others in this thread. She had herself listed as a minority when she wasn't.

1. How do you know that SHE had herself listed as a minority?

2. How do you know that SHE isn't a minority?

If she is not a minority...which by all appearances seems to be the case...then even if she didn't perpetuate the falsehood (which I find rather doubtful since it happened at both Penn and Harvard) then she allowed it to continue not only at one institution but at a second as well.

 

[Oldstyle]

What's amusing to me is while the Warren camp hasn't trotted out any proof at all that there is Indian blood in the Warren bloodline...her internet "defenders" have already taken as gospel that she is 1/32 Indian on her mother's side.

Funny how I can trace my ancestors all the way back to the 1600's but poor Elizabeth can't seem to trace HER'S back four generations. Here's a dose of cold reality, Warren supporters...if there really WAS any Indian blood in Lizzie's past...they would have trotted it out at the first mention that she'd falsely claimed minority status.

Why should she?

Does it make her not fit to run?

I mean..it's not like she posed naked in a magazine or something.

And even then..you can still run.

Lying on your resume will generally get you axed from WHATEVER job it is you've applied for if you're found out. Warren has essentially lied about who she "is" and done so for years because it helped her career. Elizabeth Warren reaped the advantages of having minority status...now she's going to have to accept the disadvantages of being caught doing so.

 

[Artevelde]

What's amusing to me is while the Warren camp hasn't trotted out any proof at all that there is Indian blood in the Warren bloodline...her internet "defenders" have already taken as gospel that she is 1/32 Indian on her mother's side.

Funny how I can trace my ancestors all the way back to the 1600's but poor Elizabeth can't seem to trace HER'S back four generations. Here's a dose of cold reality, Warren supporters...if there really WAS any Indian blood in Lizzie's past...they would have trotted it out at the first mention that she'd falsely claimed minority status.

Why should she?

Does it make her not fit to run?

I mean..it's not like she posed naked in a magazine or something.

And even then..you can still run.

Obviously she can run. Nobody claims she committed some sort of capital offense. She's just been proven to have been dishonest. Nothing more. Nothing less.

 

[Artevelde]

What's amusing to me is while the Warren camp hasn't trotted out any proof at all that there is Indian blood in the Warren bloodline...her internet "defenders" have already taken as gospel that she is 1/32 Indian on her mother's side.

Funny how I can trace my ancestors all the way back to the 1600's but poor Elizabeth can't seem to trace HER'S back four generations. Here's a dose of cold reality, Warren supporters...if there really WAS any Indian blood in Lizzie's past...they would have trotted it out at the first mention that she'd falsely claimed minority status.

Why should she?

Does it make her not fit to run?

I mean..it's not like she posed naked in a magazine or something.

And even then..you can still run.

Lying on your resume will generally get you axed from WHATEVER job it is you've applied for if you're found out. Warren has essentially lied about who she "is" and done so for years because it helped her career. Elizabeth Warren reaped the advantages of having minority status...now she's going to have to accept the disadvantages of being caught doing so.

That's up to the voters of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts.

 

[Oldstyle]

What's amusing to me is while the Warren camp hasn't trotted out any proof at all that there is Indian blood in the Warren bloodline...her internet "defenders" have already taken as gospel that she is 1/32 Indian on her mother's side.

Funny how I can trace my ancestors all the way back to the 1600's but poor Elizabeth can't seem to trace HER'S back four generations. Here's a dose of cold reality, Warren supporters...if there really WAS any Indian blood in Lizzie's past...they would have trotted it out at the first mention that she'd falsely claimed minority status.

To that I would say that probably her biggest 'sin' in all this is not getting a handle on the press when it first started, i.e., not taking it seriously enough.

Allowing her 'minority status' to be used by the universities in question wasn't a good idea, either.

I'm not against her, but that doesn't matter. I'm not from her state. And I do believe she'd make a great senator, but this story may have ended all that, simply because she did not act aggressively when it broke.

With all due respect, Boop...how do you "act aggressively" when you've been caught red handed misrepresenting yourself?

 

[Sallow]

What's amusing to me is while the Warren camp hasn't trotted out any proof at all that there is Indian blood in the Warren bloodline...her internet "defenders" have already taken as gospel that she is 1/32 Indian on her mother's side.

Funny how I can trace my ancestors all the way back to the 1600's but poor Elizabeth can't seem to trace HER'S back four generations. Here's a dose of cold reality, Warren supporters...if there really WAS any Indian blood in Lizzie's past...they would have trotted it out at the first mention that she'd falsely claimed minority status.

Why should she?

Does it make her not fit to run?

I mean..it's not like she posed naked in a magazine or something.

And even then..you can still run.

Obviously she an run. Nobody claims she committed some sort of capital offense. She's just been proven to have been dishonest. Nothing more. Nothing less.

Dishonest about what?

My Mom thought she was part American Indian for the longest time. Her half sister actually sat down and did a family tree several years ago..and found that her family had no American Indians. Interestingly enough..there was a direct link to Henry the VIII.

 

[Oldstyle]

Why should she?

Does it make her not fit to run?

I mean..it's not like she posed naked in a magazine or something.

And even then..you can still run.

Obviously she an run. Nobody claims she committed some sort of capital offense. She's just been proven to have been dishonest. Nothing more. Nothing less.

Dishonest about what?

My Mom thought she was part American Indian for the longest time. Her half sister actually sat down and did a family tree several years ago..and found that her family had no American Indians. Interestingly enough..there was a direct link to Henry the VIII.

So the fact that your Mom is clueless somehow proves that Elizabeth Warren wasn't being dishonest? Too funny...