Electric Vehicles are the biggest lie on the planet?

[DarthTrader]

I will easily prove how full of shit EV vehicles actually are.

Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

www.eia.gov

• US consumes 7.9 Billion barrels of Oil per year

Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

www.eia.gov

• US generates net 4116 Billion kwh electricity per year

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• Barrels of oil equivalent to kwh = about 1,700 kwh.

1. US generates 2,421,176,470 barrels of oil equivalent of electricity per year.
2. US consumes 7,900,000,000 barrels of oil to drive cars and trucks, trains and planes and ships, every year.
3. US cannot possibly 3x its electricity production in 50 years.
   1. That would require the construction of 750 (see edit below) new Nuclear reactors LOL.
   2. Wind/Solar can't even come close, the largest solar farm is a fraction of the electricity of a nuclear power plant.
   3. Everything else is fossil fuel.

EDIT - There is a fuel efficiency conversion. Just using some basic numbers from internet that are contestable....EVs are 2x more efficient than gasoline ICE engines. So Instead of 1,500 Nuclear Reactors we need 750....still a lot.

 

[kyzr]

EVs only help the climate if the electricity to run them is also made cleanly, such as by renewables or nuclear. If coal fired powerplants make the electricity there is no climate benefit.

Energy Efficiency: Electric Vehicles vs. Fossil-Fuel Vehicles

By all accounts, electric vehicles are several times more energy efficient than fossil-fuel ones.

www.crsautomotive.com

The OP is correct that we need to generate more clean electricity if we plan to switch to EVs.

 

[Moonglow]

I will easily prove how full of shit EV vehicles actually are.

Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

www.eia.gov

• US consumes 7.9 Billion barrels of Oil per year

Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

www.eia.gov

• US generates net 4116 Billion kwh electricity per year

Convert barrels of oil equivalent to kilowatt hours - energy converter

Convert energy units. Easily convert barrels of oil equivalent to kilowatt hours, convert boe to kWh . Many other converters available for free.

www.unitjuggler.com

• Barrels of oil equivalent to kwh = about 1,700 kwh.

1. US generates 2,421,176,470 barrels of oil equivalent of electricity per year.
2. US consumes 7,900,000,000 barrels of oil to drive cars and trucks, trains and planes and ships, every year.
3. US cannot possibly 3x its electricity production in 50 years.
   1. That would require the construction of 1,500 new Nuclear reactors LOL.
   2. Wind/Solar can't even come close, the largest solar farm is a fraction of the electricity of a nuclear power plant.
   3. Everything else is fossil fuel.

For something so worthless you sure show your fear of them.

 

[Moonglow]

EVs only help the climate if the electricity to run them is also made cleanly, such as by renewables or nuclear. If coal fired powerplants make the electricity there is no climate benefit.

Energy Efficiency: Electric Vehicles vs. Fossil-Fuel Vehicles

By all accounts, electric vehicles are several times more energy efficient than fossil-fuel ones.

www.crsautomotive.com

The OP is correct that we need to generate more clean electricity if we plan to switch to EVs.

Tell me again how nuclear power is clean.

 

[DGS49]

What needs to happen is, hook up all the nation's treadmills, stationary bikes, and Stairmasters, to generate electricity to charge EV's. Then package all the hot air and bullshit coming out of Washington to increase the growing seasons in the northern states.

But seriously, folks, some farsighted President needs to close down the NRC and start a whole new agency that will quickly and dispassionately develop a small pamphlet of safety rules and regulations for nuclear power plants, so we can build the fucking things at a reasonable cost and move forward. Between the Greenies and the Deep State, there are simply too many obstacles to doing what needs to happen with nuclear (pronounced "Nuke-you-ler") power.

 

[DarthTrader]

EVs only help the climate if the electricity to run them is also made cleanly, such as by renewables or nuclear. If coal fired powerplants make the electricity there is no climate benefit.

Energy Efficiency: Electric Vehicles vs. Fossil-Fuel Vehicles

By all accounts, electric vehicles are several times more energy efficient than fossil-fuel ones.

www.crsautomotive.com

The OP is correct that we need to generate more clean electricity if we plan to switch to EVs.

I did forget the efficiency conversion I'll add to OP as an edit.

But your article is wrong (they are biased). They ignore the efficiency wasted on powering accessories to the EV car. But they add the loss to the powering of the ICE car. Pathetic oversight on their part.

Gasoline efficiency is 35%. Assuming 80% efficiency for EVs (ignoring the loss to powering accessories) we'll just round that as a 2:1 ratio.

So phew, only need to build 750 Nuclear reactors. LOLOLOLOLOLOL.

 

[Grumblenuts]

So phew,

Lotta work shoveling all that crap. So relax. Don't have a cow.

 

[DarthTrader]

Lotta work shoveling all that crap. So relax. Don't have a cow.

LOLOLOL, you have zero argument to the fact that we are at least 750 nuclear reactors short of replacing oil?

 

[Osiris-ODS]

EVs only help the climate if the electricity to run them is also made cleanly, such as by renewables or nuclear. If coal fired powerplants make the electricity there is no climate benefit.

Energy Efficiency: Electric Vehicles vs. Fossil-Fuel Vehicles

By all accounts, electric vehicles are several times more energy efficient than fossil-fuel ones.

www.crsautomotive.com

The OP is correct that we need to generate more clean electricity if we plan to switch to EVs.

None of this "helps" the climate. That's the underlying fallacy.

 

[Mac-7]

I will easily prove how full of shit EV vehicles actually are.

Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

www.eia.gov

• US consumes 7.9 Billion barrels of Oil per year

Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

www.eia.gov

• US generates net 4116 Billion kwh electricity per year

Convert barrels of oil equivalent to kilowatt hours - energy converter

Convert energy units. Easily convert barrels of oil equivalent to kilowatt hours, convert boe to kWh . Many other converters available for free.

www.unitjuggler.com

• Barrels of oil equivalent to kwh = about 1,700 kwh.

1. US generates 2,421,176,470 barrels of oil equivalent of electricity per year.
2. US consumes 7,900,000,000 barrels of oil to drive cars and trucks, trains and planes and ships, every year.
3. US cannot possibly 3x its electricity production in 50 years.
   1. That would require the construction of 750 (see edit below) new Nuclear reactors LOL.
   2. Wind/Solar can't even come close, the largest solar farm is a fraction of the electricity of a nuclear power plant.
   3. Everything else is fossil fuel.

EDIT - There is a fuel efficiency conversion. Just using some basic numbers from internet that are contestable....EVs are 2x more efficient than gasoline ICE engines. So Instead of 1,500 Nuclear Reactors we need 750....still a lot.

I think you are overlooking the contribution that walking shoes, dirty cramped public transportation and bicycles have to offer

 

[DarthTrader]

I think you are overlooking the contribution that walking shoes, dirty cramped public transportation and bicycles have to offer

Not really lol. The total consumption numbers don't lie...

 

[kyzr]

Tell me again how nuclear power is clean.

How much CO2 do they emit?

 

[DarthTrader]

How much CO2 do they emit?

He's worried about the poopoo water they emit. People tell him "ur anus is filthy" all the time....so naturally uranium is filthy too

 

[Juicin]

subsidizing rich people to buy very carbon intensive cars to make. And that most people don't drive enough to justify existing.

Disposable fucking cars, who wants that?

 

[kyzr]

I think you are overlooking the contribution that walking shoes, dirty cramped public transportation and bicycles have to offer

When I was young the Chinese all rode bicycles everywhere.

Now, after Wall Street moved US factories there, China has massive traffic jams and more billionaires than the US.

 

[scruffy]

are 2x more efficient than gasoline ICE engines.

Bullshit.

That's only after charging.

End to end, EV's are 60% LESS efficient than gasoline engines.

 

[kyzr]

Bullshit. That's only after charging.
End to end, EV's are 60% LESS efficient than gasoline engines.

Got a link for that lie?

Energy Efficiency: Electric Vehicles vs. Fossil-Fuel Vehicles

By all accounts, electric vehicles are several times more energy efficient than fossil-fuel ones.

www.crsautomotive.com

 

[DarthTrader]

Bullshit.

That's only after charging.

End to end, EV's are 60% LESS efficient than gasoline engines.

I'm basing it on that last mile....it's irrelevant to me. Even if EVs are 80% efficiency, that only is versus 40% efficiency of gasoline ICE engines, and barely covers the gap in electricity needed.

 

[badger2]

Charging an ebike battery costs $0.25 from the grid and yields 20 miles of assisted pedaling. Owning the solar panel and power station, the charge costs practically nothing, and can be done while the vehicle is in motion.

 

[Juicin]

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When I was young the Chinese all rode bicycles everywhere.

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Now, after Wall Street moved US factories there, China has massive traffic jams and more billionaires than the US.

lol the chinese have more billionaires like I'm 10 feet tall

what these people claim as their assets are really the states assets which can be stripped at any time. See Jack Ma

Why the fuck do people believe anything the Chinese say? They have no incentive to tell the truth about most things. So they don't. Not even clear the CCP knows the real answer to questions like these. And if they do what is the margin of error/confidence interval