Electoral College

[Auld Phart]

"Every vote in this country should have equal weight. The Electoral College is a relic of a bygone era, and we need to change this system," said Connecticut state Sen. Mae Flexer, who filed a bill with several fellow Democrats requiring Connecticut to join the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact.

Since 2006, 11 states have signed onto the compact, which require their Electoral College voters to cast ballots for the national popular vote winner. In theory it would take effect once it involves states representing at least 270 electoral votes, the threshold to win the presidency.

Just get rid of the EC. Most infrastructure if there is any is going to be done in the most populated states, NY and CA, and CA and NY pay the most in taxes.

Our votes are not equal, and this old way of doing things is not working today. The politicians get to redraw district and pick the EC in my state.

Wyoming doesn't really matter.

If Wyoming really doesn't really matter, neither do New York, or California.

Yes the 1/2 million in Wyoming should count as 1/2 million votes, not 625,000 votes to one vote in MI.

1 vote in Wy = about 625,000 votes in Mi. What is wrong with that picture, tell me how my vote counts. Tell the people in NY and CA (who pay the most in taxes) tell them how their vote counts.

The votes in Wyoming only count in Wyoming, the votes in California only count in California.

The winning person in those respective states get the electoral votes for those states.

Clinton got 2 million more votes in California than Trump?

Only matters in California.

Doesn't affect the vote in Wyoming, Utah, Ohio, or any other states.

Or do you believe only Blue states should have a voice?

I understand how it works, but it doesn't work well and votes are not equal. Wyoming and Vermont should have 1 EC , not 3. Cal should count more than Wy.

The EC has got to go.

Every state should have one vote.

Just like it would if it were to go to the House.

(psst, California does count more than Wyoming. California has 55, Wyoming only 3)

 

[JakeStarkey]

I would prefer to see that the final totals, PV and EV, are a majority each for the winner. Otherwise, put it in the House for decision.

 

[gipper]

It is quite clear that the whole State's Rights issue is very much disliked by the Left.

They seem to prefer a highly centralized national government in DC, run by a very small group of unaccountable elites (really criminals). Or, maybe they just haven't thought it through.

The representatives of a state making decisions for the state is a state's right issue. That gipper does not like it, shows that gipper wants the feds to decide. The reps have the right to do this if they want, kiddo.

Does it if those people are LWNJs?

 

[JakeStarkey]

It is quite clear that the whole State's Rights issue is very much disliked by the Left.

They seem to prefer a highly centralized national government in DC, run by a very small group of unaccountable elites (really criminals). Or, maybe they just haven't thought it through.

The representatives of a state making decisions for the state is a state's right issue. That gipper does not like it, shows that gipper wants the feds to decide. The reps have the right to do this if they want, kiddo.

Does it if those people are LWNJs?

Or RWNJs or Socialists or Libertarians or whatever, if you believe in States Rights.

 

[gipper]

It is quite clear that the whole State's Rights issue is very much disliked by the Left.

They seem to prefer a highly centralized national government in DC, run by a very small group of unaccountable elites (really criminals). Or, maybe they just haven't thought it through.

The representatives of a state making decisions for the state is a state's right issue. That gipper does not like it, shows that gipper wants the feds to decide. The reps have the right to do this if they want, kiddo.

Does it if those people are LWNJs?

Or RWNJs or Socialists or Libertarians or whatever, if you believe in States Rights.

Everything the left touches they destroy. Sadly, you don't know this fact.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

The only viable change I can see that would not violate the intent of the constitution is to do away with the actual human portion of the electoral college and just have states assign points in place of the electoral voters. IE, Trump gets 306 points. With 270 required to win, he wins. It would remove the ability for corruption.

 

[JakeStarkey]

It is quite clear that the whole State's Rights issue is very much disliked by the Left.

They seem to prefer a highly centralized national government in DC, run by a very small group of unaccountable elites (really criminals). Or, maybe they just haven't thought it through.

The representatives of a state making decisions for the state is a state's right issue. That gipper does not like it, shows that gipper wants the feds to decide. The reps have the right to do this if they want, kiddo.

Does it if those people are LWNJs?

Or RWNJs or Socialists or Libertarians or whatever, if you believe in States Rights.

Everything the left touches they destroy. Sadly, you don't know this fact.

That makes no sense in this discussion. Either you support states rights on this matter or you don't.

 

[boedicca]

More states consider working around the Electoral College

"In states including Connecticut, Pennsylvania, Ohio and New Mexico, legislators have said they plan to introduce legislation that would require their state's Electoral College voters cast ballots for the presidential candidate who earns the most votes nationwide, regardless of the statewide results."

These idiots want to ignore the will of the people of the state, and cast the electoral votes for the winner of the national popular vote?

"Hey, Nevada, what you want doesn't matter, you voted overwhelmingly for Smith, but the COUNTRY wants Jones. Tough luck"

"Hey, Ohio. doesn't matter if you voted 7-3 for Smith, California and New York voted 3-1 for Jones, so HE gets your electoral votes"

Mass stupidity, IMO.

Comments?
Thoughts?

Yet another desperate attempt by the Progs to assert Authoritarian Control over people they disdain.

 

[Pop23]

I don’t see it going anywhere either. Why would the electors of a state care about the national outcome?

I saw one idea that we should move the electoral votes to the congressional districts and award the “bonus” 2 votes to the winner of the State popular vote. So if you have 10 electoral votes; you have 8 due to the # of reps in the house and 2 because of your senators. So if Candidate A wins Districts 2,3,4,5,8 and Candidate B wins 1, 6 and 7 but districts 1, 6 and 7 deliver a greater number of votes…you win the same number of votes as Candidate A; 5 and 5.

The only reason I like this is that it makes an audit of the vote easier. Statistically, there are many blue areas in which an audit of the vote should be done. If the Michigan recount showed us anything, it is that vote manipulation is alive and well.

 

[Pop23]

"Every vote in this country should have equal weight. The Electoral College is a relic of a bygone era, and we need to change this system," said Connecticut state Sen. Mae Flexer, who filed a bill with several fellow Democrats requiring Connecticut to join the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact.

Since 2006, 11 states have signed onto the compact, which require their Electoral College voters to cast ballots for the national popular vote winner. In theory it would take effect once it involves states representing at least 270 electoral votes, the threshold to win the presidency.

Just get rid of the EC. Most infrastructure if there is any is going to be done in the most populated states, NY and CA, and CA and NY pay the most in taxes.

Our votes are not equal, and this old way of doing things is not working today. The politicians get to redraw district and pick the EC in my state.

Wyoming doesn't really matter.

If Wyoming really doesn't really matter, neither do New York, or California.

Yes the 1/2 million in Wyoming should count as 1/2 million votes, not 625,000 votes to one vote in MI.

1 vote in Wy = about 625,000 votes in Mi. What is wrong with that picture, tell me how my vote counts. Tell the people in NY and CA (who pay the most in taxes) tell them how their vote counts.

The votes in Wyoming only count in Wyoming, the votes in California only count in California.

The winning person in those respective states get the electoral votes for those states.

Clinton got 2 million more votes in California than Trump?

Only matters in California.

Doesn't affect the vote in Wyoming, Utah, Ohio, or any other states.

Or do you believe only Blue states should have a voice?

I understand how it works, but it doesn't work well and votes are not equal. Wyoming and Vermont should have 1 EC , not 3. Cal should count more than Wy.

The EC has got to go.

The States agreed to this in order to join the Union.

Don't like it........

Leave

 

[12icer]

If Wyoming really doesn't really matter, neither do New York, or California.

Yes the 1/2 million in Wyoming should count as 1/2 million votes, not 625,000 votes to one vote in MI.

1 vote in Wy = about 625,000 votes in Mi. What is wrong with that picture, tell me how my vote counts. Tell the people in NY and CA (who pay the most in taxes) tell them how their vote counts.[/QUOTE]

How do you arrive at the idea that the vote is equal in NY, and Cal. Cal has 55 ec votes and WY has 3 and the ratio of power cal to wy is 1 to 3. So even though the idea is to give one STATE some power in the election, it is also designed to limit one states power to completely control the presidential election. The idea that this is a single minded DEMOCRACY is wrong, it is a REPUBLIC for a reason. If it were a democracy it would have failed long ago and we would be speaking German, or have gone back under Crown rule. If liberal dumbasses are too stupid to realize that it should be NO surprise to anyone with a REAL education, and a MULTIPLANIC mental capacity.

 

[Cellblock2429]

"Every vote in this country should have equal weight. The Electoral College is a relic of a bygone era, and we need to change this system," said Connecticut state Sen. Mae Flexer, who filed a bill with several fellow Democrats requiring Connecticut to join the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact.

Since 2006, 11 states have signed onto the compact, which require their Electoral College voters to cast ballots for the national popular vote winner. In theory it would take effect once it involves states representing at least 270 electoral votes, the threshold to win the presidency.

Just get rid of the EC. Most infrastructure if there is any is going to be done in the most populated states, NY and CA, and CA and NY pay the most in taxes.

Our votes are not equal, and this old way of doing things is not working today. The politicians get to redraw district and pick the EC in my state.

Wyoming doesn't really matter.

If Wyoming really doesn't really matter, neither do New York, or California.

Yes the 1/2 million in Wyoming should count as 1/2 million votes, not 625,000 votes to one vote in MI.

1 vote in Wy = about 625,000 votes in Mi. What is wrong with that picture, tell me how my vote counts. Tell the people in NY and CA (who pay the most in taxes) tell them how their vote counts.

The votes in Wyoming only count in Wyoming, the votes in California only count in California.

The winning person in those respective states get the electoral votes for those states.

Clinton got 2 million more votes in California than Trump?

Only matters in California.

Doesn't affect the vote in Wyoming, Utah, Ohio, or any other states.

Or do you believe only Blue states should have a voice?

Liberals need to keep changing the rules until they win all of the elections.

 

[Rexx Taylor]

i still think that "The Losing Democrat States" will want to add a few states in Canada to the 57 states, to insure a victory in 2020

 

[Penelope]

"Every vote in this country should have equal weight. The Electoral College is a relic of a bygone era, and we need to change this system," said Connecticut state Sen. Mae Flexer, who filed a bill with several fellow Democrats requiring Connecticut to join the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact.

Since 2006, 11 states have signed onto the compact, which require their Electoral College voters to cast ballots for the national popular vote winner. In theory it would take effect once it involves states representing at least 270 electoral votes, the threshold to win the presidency.

Just get rid of the EC. Most infrastructure if there is any is going to be done in the most populated states, NY and CA, and CA and NY pay the most in taxes.

Our votes are not equal, and this old way of doing things is not working today. The politicians get to redraw district and pick the EC in my state.

Wyoming doesn't really matter.

If Wyoming really doesn't really matter, neither do New York, or California.

Yes the 1/2 million in Wyoming should count as 1/2 million votes, not 625,000 votes to one vote in MI.

1 vote in Wy = about 625,000 votes in Mi. What is wrong with that picture, tell me how my vote counts. Tell the people in NY and CA (who pay the most in taxes) tell them how their vote counts.

The votes in Wyoming only count in Wyoming, the votes in California only count in California.

The winning person in those respective states get the electoral votes for those states.

Clinton got 2 million more votes in California than Trump?

Only matters in California.

Doesn't affect the vote in Wyoming, Utah, Ohio, or any other states.

Or do you believe only Blue states should have a voice?

Liberals need to keep changing the rules until they win all of the elections.

One , I'm not a liberal, I'm very conservative, and two, I want the elections to be fair and they are not.

 

[Penelope]

Just get rid of the EC. Most infrastructure if there is any is going to be done in the most populated states, NY and CA, and CA and NY pay the most in taxes.

Our votes are not equal, and this old way of doing things is not working today. The politicians get to redraw district and pick the EC in my state.

Wyoming doesn't really matter.

If Wyoming really doesn't really matter, neither do New York, or California.

Yes the 1/2 million in Wyoming should count as 1/2 million votes, not 625,000 votes to one vote in MI.

1 vote in Wy = about 625,000 votes in Mi. What is wrong with that picture, tell me how my vote counts. Tell the people in NY and CA (who pay the most in taxes) tell them how their vote counts.

The votes in Wyoming only count in Wyoming, the votes in California only count in California.

The winning person in those respective states get the electoral votes for those states.

Clinton got 2 million more votes in California than Trump?

Only matters in California.

Doesn't affect the vote in Wyoming, Utah, Ohio, or any other states.

Or do you believe only Blue states should have a voice?

I understand how it works, but it doesn't work well and votes are not equal. Wyoming and Vermont should have 1 EC , not 3. Cal should count more than Wy.

The EC has got to go.

Every state should have one vote.

Just like it would if it were to go to the House.

(psst, California does count more than Wyoming. California has 55, Wyoming only 3)

Votes in Ca count less than vote in Wy. the EC needs to go. Lets have a vote on it. Pop vote wins.

 

[Auld Phart]

If Wyoming really doesn't really matter, neither do New York, or California.

Yes the 1/2 million in Wyoming should count as 1/2 million votes, not 625,000 votes to one vote in MI.

1 vote in Wy = about 625,000 votes in Mi. What is wrong with that picture, tell me how my vote counts. Tell the people in NY and CA (who pay the most in taxes) tell them how their vote counts.

The votes in Wyoming only count in Wyoming, the votes in California only count in California.

The winning person in those respective states get the electoral votes for those states.

Clinton got 2 million more votes in California than Trump?

Only matters in California.

Doesn't affect the vote in Wyoming, Utah, Ohio, or any other states.

Or do you believe only Blue states should have a voice?

I understand how it works, but it doesn't work well and votes are not equal. Wyoming and Vermont should have 1 EC , not 3. Cal should count more than Wy.

The EC has got to go.

Every state should have one vote.

Just like it would if it were to go to the House.

(psst, California does count more than Wyoming. California has 55, Wyoming only 3)

Votes in Ca count less than vote in Wy. the EC needs to go. Lets have a vote on it. Pop vote wins.

Lets have a vote on it. Pop vote wins.

And let the Blue Wall decide?

what a stupid idea

 

[Rexx Taylor]

lets just end all of this, and just sell California and New York to China foe 2.9 Million Dollars, then we will always be a conservative law abiding nation !!!!

 

[jon_berzerk]

Just looked at the redistricting of 2010 census...The blue states lost the majority which went to states Trump won....You have another one fast approaching.....If that trend holds Republican states will have picked a fairly large chunk and if those states remain red dem road to the WH gets even harder. Perhaps why the hysteria.....

yup could be for a very long time

 

[candycorn]

I don’t see it going anywhere either. Why would the electors of a state care about the national outcome?

I saw one idea that we should move the electoral votes to the congressional districts and award the “bonus” 2 votes to the winner of the State popular vote. So if you have 10 electoral votes; you have 8 due to the # of reps in the house and 2 because of your senators. So if Candidate A wins Districts 2,3,4,5,8 and Candidate B wins 1, 6 and 7 but districts 1, 6 and 7 deliver a greater number of votes…you win the same number of votes as Candidate A; 5 and 5.

The only reason I like this is that it makes an audit of the vote easier. Statistically, there are many blue areas in which an audit of the vote should be done. If the Michigan recount showed us anything, it is that vote manipulation is alive and well.

How so?

 

[Pop23]

I don’t see it going anywhere either. Why would the electors of a state care about the national outcome?

I saw one idea that we should move the electoral votes to the congressional districts and award the “bonus” 2 votes to the winner of the State popular vote. So if you have 10 electoral votes; you have 8 due to the # of reps in the house and 2 because of your senators. So if Candidate A wins Districts 2,3,4,5,8 and Candidate B wins 1, 6 and 7 but districts 1, 6 and 7 deliver a greater number of votes…you win the same number of votes as Candidate A; 5 and 5.

The only reason I like this is that it makes an audit of the vote easier. Statistically, there are many blue areas in which an audit of the vote should be done. If the Michigan recount showed us anything, it is that vote manipulation is alive and well.

How so?

Many of the blue precincts had more votes than voters. The entire precinct would have been voided.
Records: Too many votes in 37% of Detroit’s precincts