Electoral College Voter Says He Will Not Vote For Hillary Clinton Even If She Wins His State

The electoral college is the most important democratic institution. The electoral college is the only thing that stands in the way of unchecked tyrannical power of majority. This is why all other democracies that are not American, hate it so much. It is possible that now yet again, the American electoral college will prove that it alone stops the tyranny of the majority.
 
How does that matter?

You libs will choke on the fact that you can't dismiss him as a right wing racist homophobic sexist. You'll be dissolved by your own stomach acid on this one. :laugh:

Isn't he a Bernie supporter or something? What do I care? I see it as a flaw in the electoral college regardless of his personal disposition.

:crybaby:

Maybe you should spend a little less time pouting and a little more developing a cognitive argument.

Projection ^^^ awe don't be sad liberalism was destined to fail its not your fault.

Have you bothered to make a point yet? Please post it STAT.
 
I mean the EC favors the Dems without a vote even being cast, but i think if its in place it should require them to cast their vote for who the American people voted for.

What? How does the electoral vote favor Dems? Let's start with 2000 and we can continue with why the fuck Wyoming gets the same number of votes as DC, please don't puss out on this.

Here's your chance...go....
18 states plus the District of Columbia have voted for the Democratic presidential nominee in every election between 1992 and 2012. Add them up and you get 242 electoral votes.

13 states have voted for the Republican presidential nominee in each of the past 6 electins. add them up and you get 102 EV's.

See it yet? The Democratic nominee starts with an EV lead of 140. What does that leave? The Dem nominee needs to find only 28 votes beyond that built in base to win the presidency.

Electoral College favors the Democrat nominee without a vote even being cast. I rest my case


But we can see the popular vote. In recent times only one election would the popular vote change the outcome of an election and that was in 2000.

You also completely ignore my point. Wyoming and other less populated states get an automatic 3 electoral votes regardless of their low population and they tend to vote Republican. Why should a senate seat in California represent the same population of a senate seat in North Dakota?

I agree, they should do away with the electoral college, I'm tired of giving a fuck what Billy Bob's back 40 votes for.

How about because that is what the Constitution says. Perhaps if you read it instead of using it when you run out of toilet paper, you might learn something.
 
Good. Keeping criminal scum out of the white house, is exactly why the electoral college exists.
I think the electoral college in antiquated...let the people speak!

You want the people of NY, Los Angeles, Philly, and Chicago to select the President every four years?

Dumb, really dumb!
Get rid of the electoral college. Make every vote count with a popular vote.

What if the vote comes down to a few hundred votes? Do we suspend the government while we sort through the months of recounts?
 
He's a native American minority...OH SNAP that's gonna leave a mark :laugh:

How does that matter?

You libs will choke on the fact that you can't dismiss him as a right wing racist homophobic sexist. You'll be dissolved by your own stomach acid on this one. :laugh:

Isn't he a Bernie supporter or something? What do I care? I see it as a flaw in the electoral college regardless of his personal disposition.

:crybaby:

Maybe you should spend a little less time pouting and a little more developing a cognitive argument.

Why? You haven't!
 
I mean the EC favors the Dems without a vote even being cast, but i think if its in place it should require them to cast their vote for who the American people voted for.

What? How does the electoral vote favor Dems? Let's start with 2000 and we can continue with why the fuck Wyoming gets the same number of votes as DC, please don't puss out on this.

Here's your chance...go....
18 states plus the District of Columbia have voted for the Democratic presidential nominee in every election between 1992 and 2012. Add them up and you get 242 electoral votes.

13 states have voted for the Republican presidential nominee in each of the past 6 electins. add them up and you get 102 EV's.

See it yet? The Democratic nominee starts with an EV lead of 140. What does that leave? The Dem nominee needs to find only 28 votes beyond that built in base to win the presidency.

Electoral College favors the Democrat nominee without a vote even being cast. I rest my case


But we can see the popular vote. In recent times only one election would the popular vote change the outcome of an election and that was in 2000.

You also completely ignore my point. Wyoming and other less populated states get an automatic 3 electoral votes regardless of their low population and they tend to vote Republican. Why should a senate seat in California represent the same population of a senate seat in North Dakota?

I agree, they should do away with the electoral college, I'm tired of giving a fuck what Billy Bob's back 40 votes for.

How about because that is what the Constitution says. Perhaps if you read it instead of using it when you run out of toilet paper, you might learn something.

Who said anything about not constitutionally getting rid of the electoral college?
 
How does that matter?

You libs will choke on the fact that you can't dismiss him as a right wing racist homophobic sexist. You'll be dissolved by your own stomach acid on this one. :laugh:

Isn't he a Bernie supporter or something? What do I care? I see it as a flaw in the electoral college regardless of his personal disposition.

:crybaby:

Maybe you should spend a little less time pouting and a little more developing a cognitive argument.

Why? You haven't!

Correct.
 
Good. Keeping criminal scum out of the white house, is exactly why the electoral college exists.
I think the electoral college in antiquated...let the people speak!

You want the people of NY, Los Angeles, Philly, and Chicago to select the President every four years?

Dumb, really dumb!

So, you think someone living in Wyoming should get extra consideration?
Yes. They should get extra consideration. Their geography and way of life is different. And a democracy is not a democracy if it excludes you because of your geography or way of life.
 
Good. Keeping criminal scum out of the white house, is exactly why the electoral college exists.
I think the electoral college in antiquated...let the people speak!

You want the people of NY, Los Angeles, Philly, and Chicago to select the President every four years?

Dumb, really dumb!
Get rid of the electoral college. Make every vote count with a popular vote.
No because popular vote immediately results in the tyranny of the majority.
 
Good. Keeping criminal scum out of the white house, is exactly why the electoral college exists.
I think the electoral college in antiquated...let the people speak!

You want the people of NY, Los Angeles, Philly, and Chicago to select the President every four years?

Dumb, really dumb!

So, you think someone living in Wyoming should get extra consideration?
Yes. They should get extra consideration. Their geography and way of life is different. And a democracy is not a democracy if it excludes you because of your geography or way of life.

Somebody's 'way of life' gives them extra benefits to our electoral process? Geography? Maybe at one time but we have the Internet now and nobody is going to bumfuck Arkansas to campaign anyway.
 
Got to be honest. I respect his opinion and what he wants to do BUT he needs to do the right thing and honor the election results.

The election results are determined by the electoral college. The voting system was designed by the constitution to be an honor system, so he would be within full constitutional authorization to not honor his districts results.
 
Good. Keeping criminal scum out of the white house, is exactly why the electoral college exists.
I think the electoral college in antiquated...let the people speak!

You want the people of NY, Los Angeles, Philly, and Chicago to select the President every four years?

Dumb, really dumb!

So, you think someone living in Wyoming should get extra consideration?
Yes. They should get extra consideration. Their geography and way of life is different. And a democracy is not a democracy if it excludes you because of your geography or way of life.

Somebody's 'way of life' gives them extra benefits to our electoral process? Geography? Maybe at one time but we have the Internet now and nobody is going to bumfuck Arkansas to campaign anyway.

No because from the point of view of the democratic process, the Wyoming farmer needs as much chance at the election as a Manhattan worker, even if there are a lot more Manhattan workers than Wyoming farmers.
 
I mean the EC favors the Dems without a vote even being cast, but i think if its in place it should require them to cast their vote for who the American people voted for.

Not really, no.

The electoral college protects smaller states, which Republicans tend to hold.
 
Good. Keeping criminal scum out of the white house, is exactly why the electoral college exists.
I think the electoral college in antiquated...let the people speak!

You want the people of NY, Los Angeles, Philly, and Chicago to select the President every four years?

Dumb, really dumb!
Get rid of the electoral college. Make every vote count with a popular vote.
No because popular vote immediately results in the tyranny of the majority.


Which is why democracies always fail, because of majority rule.

We are a Constitutional Republic that has the electoral college, which stops dictators, tyrants and corruption.

This guy is doing the right thing by voting for who he thinks would be best for our country, not by party or popular vote.
 
I think the electoral college in antiquated...let the people speak!

You want the people of NY, Los Angeles, Philly, and Chicago to select the President every four years?

Dumb, really dumb!

So, you think someone living in Wyoming should get extra consideration?
Yes. They should get extra consideration. Their geography and way of life is different. And a democracy is not a democracy if it excludes you because of your geography or way of life.

Somebody's 'way of life' gives them extra benefits to our electoral process? Geography? Maybe at one time but we have the Internet now and nobody is going to bumfuck Arkansas to campaign anyway.

No because from the point of view of the democratic process, the Wyoming farmer needs as much chance at the election as a Manhattan worker, even if there are a lot more Manhattan workers than Wyoming farmers.

Nobody campaigns in New York thanks to the electoral college, what are you talking about? Hell, nobody campaigns in Wyoming either.
 
Good. Keeping criminal scum out of the white house, is exactly why the electoral college exists.
I think the electoral college in antiquated...let the people speak!

You want the people of NY, Los Angeles, Philly, and Chicago to select the President every four years?

Dumb, really dumb!
Get rid of the electoral college. Make every vote count with a popular vote.
No because popular vote immediately results in the tyranny of the majority.


Which is why democracies always fail, because of majority rule.

We are a Constitutional Republic that has the electoral college, which stops dictators, tyrants and corruption.

This guy is doing the right thing by voting for who he thinks would be best for our country, not by party or popular vote.

The guy may or may not be doing the right thing, he has an opportunity to decide. In a popular democracy, which the other posters favor, there is no such protection. It is a good thing that the USA is a constitutional republic instead of a democracy. If it was a democracy, then it would have gone to hell already a 100 years ago.
 
You want the people of NY, Los Angeles, Philly, and Chicago to select the President every four years?

Dumb, really dumb!

So, you think someone living in Wyoming should get extra consideration?
Yes. They should get extra consideration. Their geography and way of life is different. And a democracy is not a democracy if it excludes you because of your geography or way of life.

Somebody's 'way of life' gives them extra benefits to our electoral process? Geography? Maybe at one time but we have the Internet now and nobody is going to bumfuck Arkansas to campaign anyway.

No because from the point of view of the democratic process, the Wyoming farmer needs as much chance at the election as a Manhattan worker, even if there are a lot more Manhattan workers than Wyoming farmers.

Nobody campaigns in New York thanks to the electoral college, what are you talking about? Hell, nobody campaigns in Wyoming either.
I am talking about protecting people against the evils of democracy.
 

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