Electoral College on the state level in red states?

[1srelluc]

Should there be a push in red states for a Electoral College by county or senate district on the state level?

The deep blue ones are too far gone but red states that have large (and growing) dem population centers (city states) like TX should be looking into it.....Same with swing states like PA and here in Virginia when they are in gop control.

Some say the practice would be outlawed by the Supreme Court decision in Reynolds v Sims but I think there should be a work around.

Reynolds v. Sims

 

[rightwinger]

I like the idea

Let Red States split their EVs
Instead of all Electoral Votes going for Republicans, they will be split between the two candidates making that state irrelevant in the election process

 

[martybegan]

Should there be a push in red states for a Electoral College by county or senate district on the state level?

The deep blue ones are too far gone but red states that have large (and growing) dem population centers (city states) like TX should be looking into it.....Same with swing states like PA and here in Virginia when they are in gop control.

Some say the practice would be outlawed by the Supreme Court decision in Reynolds v Sims but I think there should be a work around.

Reynolds v. Sims

Only workaround is an amendment.

If the amendment process is used, the fix is to keep the EC but make States divide their EV's with 2 going to the winner of the popular vote in the State, and the rest divided up by congressional district.

 

[1srelluc]

Only workaround is an amendment.

If the amendment process is used, the fix is to keep the EC but make States divide their EV's with 2 going to the winner of the popular vote in the State, and the rest divided up by congressional district.

I'm talking on the state level, not the federal level.....Mainly Governor, Lt. Gov., and AG.

 

[Oddball]

Should there be a push in red states for a Electoral College by county or senate district on the state level?

The deep blue ones are too far gone but red states that have large (and growing) dem population centers (city states) like TX should be looking into it.....Same with swing states like PA and here in Virginia when they are in gop control.

Some say the practice would be outlawed by the Supreme Court decision in Reynolds v Sims but I think there should be a work around.

Reynolds v. Sims

Do that in every state and the democrat states could be in a permanent minority.

Look at the map of how the vote breaks out by county,

 

[martybegan]

I'm talking on the state level, not the federal level.....Mainly Governor, Lt. Gov., and AG.

Still need an amendment to get rid of the Supreme court case issue.

 

[rightwinger]

Still need an amendment to get rid of the Supreme court case issue.

The Supreme Court will have to decide whether a county with 10,000 people should have the same representation as a county with a million people

 

[martybegan]

The Supreme Court will have to decide whether a county with 10,000 people should have the same representation as a county with a million people

The problem with removing the balance created when an upper house is by geography and not population is that a cities representatives can pass laws that impact more rural counties.

It would be OK if the cities just limited the laws to themselves, but they try to impose their values on people that live a different life.

The Senate does this function at the Federal level, but the States are denied it due to the unintended consequences of the 14th amendment.

another amendment is needed to fix this, allowing States to return to a geographical/county based apportionment of their upper houses.

 

[rightwinger]

The problem with removing the balance created when an upper house is by geography and not population is that a cities representatives can pass laws that impact more rural counties.

It would be OK if the cities just limited the laws to themselves, but they try to impose their values on people that live a different life.

The Senate does this function at the Federal level, but the States are denied it due to the unintended consequences of the 14th amendment.

another amendment is needed to fix this, allowing States to return to a geographical/county based apportionment of their upper houses.

What is wrong with one man/one vote?

Why should the rural vote count more than an urban vote?

 

[martybegan]

What is wrong with one man/one vote?

Why should the rural vote count more than an urban vote?

Why should cities use their votes to force rural people to live the way they want them to?

If people in cities want laws, pass them in the cities, what happens is they pass the laws at the State level and impose their will on people who don't want that.

Look at the bullshit in Colorado, where an urban supported wolf re-population plan is imposed on the rural counties that don't want it.

 

[White 6]

What is wrong with one man/one vote?

Why should the rural vote count more than an urban vote?

I would say, leave it the heck alone. Going full democratic one man one vote would put the every presidential election at the power of whichever party told the last believable lie, closest to the election, where votes change overnight. The electoral college and the idea of representative government go hand in hand to support stability.