Election fraud is not a conspiracy theory!

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I'll be following this. I suggest everyone follow it. While I still don't think it'll mean much, because yes... I don't really trust the government... But... Here we go...

Edit: This comes from "Truth in Media" ... It's in the name right? It must be true. Right?




 
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That is my opinion about USMB as well. Wth so many different people in so many states signing affidavits attesting to what they have observed directly, to move discussions into the conspiracy theory for attempting to discuss the matter is unconcionable.
 

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I'll be following this. I suggest everyone follow it. While I still don't think it'll mean much, because yes... I don't really trust the government... But... Here we go...


Same problem ... these people understand that lying in court will get them prison time ... thus, they won't testify in court ...

This is NASA grade conspiracy theory ... we're in the 100's of thousands on the inside ... including every single sitting judge in the entire land ... and every mathematics professor in the world ... I'm following this for entertainment value ... funnier than hell ...
 

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I'll be following this. I suggest everyone follow it. While I still don't think it'll mean much, because yes... I don't really trust the government... But... Here we go...


Same problem ... these people understand that lying in court will get them prison time ... thus, they won't testify in court ...

This is NASA grade conspiracy theory ... we're in the 100's of thousands on the inside ... including every single sitting judge in the entire land ... and every mathematics professor in the world ... I'm following this for entertainment value ... funnier than hell ...
You had four years of lengthy and costly investigations after the 2016 election and yet, you can't wait two fucking months to verify that all votes were legitimate in 2020?

You can do eat a bag of rotten dicks.
 
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Same problem ... these people understand that lying in court will get them prison time ... thus, they won't testify in court ...
Umm... Link of truth of that statement?

This is NASA grade conspiracy theory ... we're in the 100's of thousands on the inside ... including every single sitting judge in the entire land ... and every mathematics professor in the world ... I'm following this for entertainment value ... funnier than hell ...
Evidence suggests otherwise. Watch the videos.
 
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Election ‘fraud’ is a conspiracy theory.
No, it’s just the MSM completely ignoring it.

It wasn’t long ago they put this idiot on TV with non-stop coverage of her “conspiracy theory” with zero evidence:
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This is the same media that claimed no riots were taking place and they were all “peaceful protests”:


They proved that the majority of leftwingers in this country will accept their lies.
 

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Conspiracy theories run the gammut.

The ones involving elections are especially delicious. Unlike 2016 when democrats were complaining about Trump coordinating with the Russians and the Russians hacking DNC servers (as has been proven by the US Senate Intel Committee and numerous intel agencies), this involves the actual mechanisms of the election; not changing public opinion.

First you'd have to believe that the conspirators hacked the Presidential race but no the down ballot races. What is unbelievable about this is that the supposed conspirators would already be on the hook for a felony if they changed one vote, submitted one fraudulent ballot, or did something else along the lines of this. So why not do it for every statewide race? It doesn't make any sense to do one race but not the other state wide races.

Next, you'd have to believe the above happened in multiple states; Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Two of which have had statewide re-counts which revealed no mis-counts.

The arguments made by President Trump's legal team are arguing about the mechanisms of the election. Historically, the states have run their elections and have been free to do so. The rules were spelled out well in advance. The campaigns knew the rules. And now the losers are crying foul and arguing impropriety. Asking for entire elections to be thrown out. Their votes, their opponent's votes. The votes cast for all down-ballot races. Its silly on the face of it.

Finally, as with all conspiracy theories, other conspiracy theories have to be invented to legitimize the ones previously spawned. As this one goes...one group printed up a bunch of ballots....and another group allowed them to come in to the counting process...and another group won't hear the arguments alleging the above took place....and another group hacked the machines....and another group....and another group....and another group....

Trump lost the election.

And save the anecdotes....

Florida elected Trump. Yet it also approved a $15/Hr Minimum Wage. The two decisions rendered by voters don't seem to be possible. Where are the conservatives calling the Florida vote into question?

California went for Biden. Yet they also approved a proposition allowing Uber and Lyft to treat their thousands of employees as part-time workers without benefits or any of the other assurances that Yellow Cab in L.A. would have to provide. The two decisions rendered by voters don't seem possible either.

These things happen in every election. There was no wide-spread fraud.
 
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These things happen in every election.
There are enough MAJOR FIRSTS in this election to make that statement comical. This isn't even close to "every election"

There was no wide-spread fraud.
Maybe... Maybe not. I like evidence. There is not enough to warrant anything more than to do more research. If that research isn't done... Well.. Remember that you supported this. That's all.
 

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The other side cheated fair and square, the establishment has spoken, the culture has spoken. It doesn't seem like the nation cares. It isn't like we haven't been here before.

 

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You had four years of lengthy and costly investigations after the 2016 election and yet, you can't wait two fucking months to verify that all votes were legitimate in 2020?

You can do eat a bag of rotten dicks.
Is that what you've been munching on? ... maybe brush your teeth after next because ewww ...

Hillary conceded the 2016 election right away ... no one was disputing that The Donald won ... the GSA turned over staff and office space to the transition team within a few days(?) ... the law says the EC meets on Dec 14th ... do you want us to break the law? ... if you want a court stay, then submit the evidence, under penalty of perjury ...
 

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The other side cheated fair and square, the establishment has spoken, the culture has spoken. It doesn't seem like the nation cares. It isn't like we haven't been here before.

Have to disagree that the nation doesn’t care,Look at how over a million people showed up at the trump rally to support him. The people are finally waking up but sadly this is what it took for them to finally want to get off their asses and try and do something about it.I’m afraid though that it’s too little too late,
 

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Conspiracy theories run the gammut.

The ones involving elections are especially delicious. Unlike 2016 when democrats were complaining about Trump coordinating with the Russians and the Russians hacking DNC servers (as has been proven by the US Senate Intel Committee and numerous intel agencies), this involves the actual mechanisms of the election; not changing public opinion.

First you'd have to believe that the conspirators hacked the Presidential race but no the down ballot races. What is unbelievable about this is that the supposed conspirators would already be on the hook for a felony if they changed one vote, submitted one fraudulent ballot, or did something else along the lines of this. So why not do it for every statewide race? It doesn't make any sense to do one race but not the other state wide races.

Next, you'd have to believe the above happened in multiple states; Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Two of which have had statewide re-counts which revealed no mis-counts.

The arguments made by President Trump's legal team are arguing about the mechanisms of the election. Historically, the states have run their elections and have been free to do so. The rules were spelled out well in advance. The campaigns knew the rules. And now the losers are crying foul and arguing impropriety. Asking for entire elections to be thrown out. Their votes, their opponent's votes. The votes cast for all down-ballot races. Its silly on the face of it.

Finally, as with all conspiracy theories, other conspiracy theories have to be invented to legitimize the ones previously spawned. As this one goes...one group printed up a bunch of ballots....and another group allowed them to come in to the counting process...and another group won't hear the arguments alleging the above took place....and another group hacked the machines....and another group....and another group....and another group....

Trump lost the election.

And save the anecdotes....

Florida elected Trump. Yet it also approved a $15/Hr Minimum Wage. The two decisions rendered by voters don't seem to be possible. Where are the conservatives calling the Florida vote into question?

California went for Biden. Yet they also approved a proposition allowing Uber and Lyft to treat their thousands of employees as part-time workers You without benefits or any of the other assurances that Yellow Cab in L.A. would have to provide. The two decisions rendered by voters don't seem possible either.

These things happen in every election. There was no wide-spread fraud.
You don't have to believe or not believe. You just have to not ignore the piles of physical evidence of all manner of election wrong doing.
 

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In 1972, was Watergate just a "conspiracy theory"?

If we had the internet back then, would politically motivated individuals move discussions about it to the conspiracy theory section of their website in a deliberate attempt at deliegitimization?
 

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These things happen in every election.
There are enough MAJOR FIRSTS in this election to make that statement comical. This isn't even close to "every election"
Such as?

There was no wide-spread fraud.
Maybe... Maybe not. I like evidence. There is not enough to warrant anything more than to do more research. If that research isn't done... Well.. Remember that you supported this. That's all.
Feel free to demonstrate it. So far you have no evidence. Much like Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny....
 

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In 1972, was Watergate just a "conspiracy theory"?

If we had the internet back then, would politically motivated individuals move discussions about it to the conspiracy theory section of their website in a deliberate attempt at deliegitimization?
We had police that investigated it....just like we have now if there is probable cause. The difference is that there was a crime back then. Today? Not so much.
 

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Conspiracy theories run the gammut.

The ones involving elections are especially delicious. Unlike 2016 when democrats were complaining about Trump coordinating with the Russians and the Russians hacking DNC servers (as has been proven by the US Senate Intel Committee and numerous intel agencies), this involves the actual mechanisms of the election; not changing public opinion.

First you'd have to believe that the conspirators hacked the Presidential race but no the down ballot races. What is unbelievable about this is that the supposed conspirators would already be on the hook for a felony if they changed one vote, submitted one fraudulent ballot, or did something else along the lines of this. So why not do it for every statewide race? It doesn't make any sense to do one race but not the other state wide races.

Next, you'd have to believe the above happened in multiple states; Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Two of which have had statewide re-counts which revealed no mis-counts.

The arguments made by President Trump's legal team are arguing about the mechanisms of the election. Historically, the states have run their elections and have been free to do so. The rules were spelled out well in advance. The campaigns knew the rules. And now the losers are crying foul and arguing impropriety. Asking for entire elections to be thrown out. Their votes, their opponent's votes. The votes cast for all down-ballot races. Its silly on the face of it.

Finally, as with all conspiracy theories, other conspiracy theories have to be invented to legitimize the ones previously spawned. As this one goes...one group printed up a bunch of ballots....and another group allowed them to come in to the counting process...and another group won't hear the arguments alleging the above took place....and another group hacked the machines....and another group....and another group....and another group....

Trump lost the election.

And save the anecdotes....

Florida elected Trump. Yet it also approved a $15/Hr Minimum Wage. The two decisions rendered by voters don't seem to be possible. Where are the conservatives calling the Florida vote into question?

California went for Biden. Yet they also approved a proposition allowing Uber and Lyft to treat their thousands of employees as part-time workers You without benefits or any of the other assurances that Yellow Cab in L.A. would have to provide. The two decisions rendered by voters don't seem possible either.

These things happen in every election. There was no wide-spread fraud.
You don't have to believe or not believe. You just have to not ignore the piles of physical evidence of all manner of election wrong doing.
Me and every judge in the world share that belief apparently.
 
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These things happen in every election.
There are enough MAJOR FIRSTS in this election to make that statement comical. This isn't even close to "every election"
Such as?
Well... The amount of mail in ballots. Duh.

TWO People in this election broke the old record for most votes. One makes sense... Two?

Feel free to demonstrate it. So far you have no evidence.
I can't force you to watch the video's. You can say that over and over... But not looking at the evidence does not mean there is no evidence. It's there.

Now I freely admit, more than once, that I don't think this is enough to do anything more than warrant further investigation. But it does warrant that in my opinion.

Understand you don't have an opinion worth noting unless you actually look at the same evidence to have a conversation with me. Look or don't. I can't force you to do anything. If you do and disagree... Fine. But to suggest without informing yourself of what I'm presenting to you... *shrugs*

What do you want me to do here?
 

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