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Education Dept. : BDS activity against Israel will be defined as anti-Semitism
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Anti-Zionism is a Dangerous Form of Anti-Semitism
The Jewish state is a refuge for any Jew in need, which means that anyone standing against Israel stands against Jews.
Recent years have seen a dramatic increase in anti-Semitism in Europe. In the United States, too, anti-Semitism is on the rise. In some cases, it comes in the familiar age-old guise of hatred of Jews, plain and simple; but in many others, it is cloaked in the form of the negation of Zionism, or in other words, the denial of Israel’s right to exist as a Jewish state.
In her recent New York Times article, “Anti-Zionism Isn’t the Same as Anti-Semitism,” Michelle Goldberg claims that the two are, in fact, very different stances. Using a convoluted argument, based on the historical opposition to Zionism among some Jews, and on the fact that Israel’s policies toward the Palestinians can make it hard for others to identify with the state, she tries to prove that it is possible to be anti-Zionist without necessarily being anti-Semitic. She argues that because Jews around the world have very different interests, which can sometimes clash with those of the State of Israel, then anti-Zionism is merely opposition to the Jewish state, and has nothing to do with one’s attitudes toward Jews per se. This argument is misleading, at best; a less generous analysis is that it willfully ignores the realities of anti-Zionism, and is prepared to leave it to the Jewish state to pay the price.
According to reports produced by various research institutes, the Israeli government, and Jewish organizations in Europe, the number of attacks on Jews is rising constantly, and the sense of personal security felt by Jews in major European countries is on the wane. In the United States, too, anti-Semitism is increasingly apparent. Contemporary European anti-Semitism includes both “traditional” European Jew hatred as well hatred directed at Zionism and the State of Israel, including calls for Israel’s destruction. Thus, at various demonstrations, events, and anti-Semitic incidents, “traditional” expressions of hatred against Jews can be heard alongside the vilification of Zionism and the Jewish state.
The conflation of anti-Zionism with anti-Semitism is also evident, in most cases, among those who are most vocally anti-Israel and anti-Jewish. In Europe, a great many of these are Muslim immigrants who fully identify Israel with the Jews in general, and for whom the goals of the destruction of Israel and the destruction of the Jewish people are indivisible. Others belong to the radical European left, which opposes Israel and Zionism almost as a matter of tradition. On the extreme right in Europe, as well, there are those who lump together the Jewish people and the State of Israel, and call for the Zionist project to be terminated.
But in truth, one needs nothing more than common sense and a basic familiarity with recent history to understand that anti-Zionism is a clear display of anti-Semitism. At the heart of the Zionist undertaking was the establishment of a Jewish state in the Land of Israel. Since this was achieved, the Jewish state has become the strongest and most visible expression of the existence of the Jewish people, and of Jewish existence in general.
Anti-Zionism, in turn, is the demand to erase the Jewish character of the State of Israel. The most immediate practical outcome of this would be that the State of Israel, in its current incarnation, would cease to exist. In the first stage, it would become, as the fiercest critics of Israel hope, “a state of all its citizens,” with no special Jewish component, and with no possibility of maintaining a Jewish majority. Such a state would, in effect, offer the right of return to Palestinian refugees. With the removal of the Jewish majority, one can safely assume, Jews would no longer be able to reside in such a state. The Jewish national home would be destroyed, and the only sure refuge for Jews in the world would be gone. While it is true that the interests of Jews around the world are not identical with those of Israel, it should be remembered that the existence of the Jewish state as a refuge for any Jews in need, wherever they may be, is very much in the interests of every Jew in every country.
Anti-Zionism is a Dangerous Form of Anti-Semitism
The Jewish state is a refuge for any Jew in need, which means that anyone standing against Israel stands against Jews.
Recent years have seen a dramatic increase in anti-Semitism in Europe. In the United States, too, anti-Semitism is on the rise. In some cases, it comes in the familiar age-old guise of hatred of Jews, plain and simple; but in many others, it is cloaked in the form of the negation of Zionism, or in other words, the denial of Israel’s right to exist as a Jewish state.
In her recent New York Times article, “Anti-Zionism Isn’t the Same as Anti-Semitism,” Michelle Goldberg claims that the two are, in fact, very different stances. Using a convoluted argument, based on the historical opposition to Zionism among some Jews, and on the fact that Israel’s policies toward the Palestinians can make it hard for others to identify with the state, she tries to prove that it is possible to be anti-Zionist without necessarily being anti-Semitic. She argues that because Jews around the world have very different interests, which can sometimes clash with those of the State of Israel, then anti-Zionism is merely opposition to the Jewish state, and has nothing to do with one’s attitudes toward Jews per se. This argument is misleading, at best; a less generous analysis is that it willfully ignores the realities of anti-Zionism, and is prepared to leave it to the Jewish state to pay the price.
According to reports produced by various research institutes, the Israeli government, and Jewish organizations in Europe, the number of attacks on Jews is rising constantly, and the sense of personal security felt by Jews in major European countries is on the wane. In the United States, too, anti-Semitism is increasingly apparent. Contemporary European anti-Semitism includes both “traditional” European Jew hatred as well hatred directed at Zionism and the State of Israel, including calls for Israel’s destruction. Thus, at various demonstrations, events, and anti-Semitic incidents, “traditional” expressions of hatred against Jews can be heard alongside the vilification of Zionism and the Jewish state.
The conflation of anti-Zionism with anti-Semitism is also evident, in most cases, among those who are most vocally anti-Israel and anti-Jewish. In Europe, a great many of these are Muslim immigrants who fully identify Israel with the Jews in general, and for whom the goals of the destruction of Israel and the destruction of the Jewish people are indivisible. Others belong to the radical European left, which opposes Israel and Zionism almost as a matter of tradition. On the extreme right in Europe, as well, there are those who lump together the Jewish people and the State of Israel, and call for the Zionist project to be terminated.
But in truth, one needs nothing more than common sense and a basic familiarity with recent history to understand that anti-Zionism is a clear display of anti-Semitism. At the heart of the Zionist undertaking was the establishment of a Jewish state in the Land of Israel. Since this was achieved, the Jewish state has become the strongest and most visible expression of the existence of the Jewish people, and of Jewish existence in general.
Anti-Zionism, in turn, is the demand to erase the Jewish character of the State of Israel. The most immediate practical outcome of this would be that the State of Israel, in its current incarnation, would cease to exist. In the first stage, it would become, as the fiercest critics of Israel hope, “a state of all its citizens,” with no special Jewish component, and with no possibility of maintaining a Jewish majority. Such a state would, in effect, offer the right of return to Palestinian refugees. With the removal of the Jewish majority, one can safely assume, Jews would no longer be able to reside in such a state. The Jewish national home would be destroyed, and the only sure refuge for Jews in the world would be gone. While it is true that the interests of Jews around the world are not identical with those of Israel, it should be remembered that the existence of the Jewish state as a refuge for any Jews in need, wherever they may be, is very much in the interests of every Jew in every country.
Anti-Zionism is a Dangerous Form of Anti-Semitism
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It's become quite the thing to deny being an anti Semite by insisting one is merely an anti-Zionist. Not only do people facing criticism for abetting anti-Semitism use this pabulum, but their Jewish defenders on the left do, too.
In these pages, opinion editor Batya Ungar-Sargon recently asserted that one of the “most important questions facing Jews on the Left today is whether there is a difference between anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism.”
The truth is, there is no difference between the two. For anti-Semitism did not stop evolving with the Nazis. Jew-haters everywhere consider Israel to be the Jew of nations, representing all that is evil and must therefore be shunned and eradicated.
The far right gets this —
Read more: Opinion | Sorry, Liberals: Anti-Zionism Is Anti-Semitic
In these pages, opinion editor Batya Ungar-Sargon recently asserted that one of the “most important questions facing Jews on the Left today is whether there is a difference between anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism.”
The truth is, there is no difference between the two. For anti-Semitism did not stop evolving with the Nazis. Jew-haters everywhere consider Israel to be the Jew of nations, representing all that is evil and must therefore be shunned and eradicated.
The far right gets this —
Read more: Opinion | Sorry, Liberals: Anti-Zionism Is Anti-Semitic
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Israel-Hating Dumbasses of the Day
Our friends over at Sussex Friends of Israel caught some Israel-haters picketing HSBC in central Brighton, despite HSBC’s announcement it has divested from Israeli company Elbit.
More bad news. We can't even spell Brighton.
Our friends over at Sussex Friends of Israel caught some Israel-haters picketing HSBC in central Brighton, despite HSBC’s announcement it has divested from Israeli company Elbit.
More bad news. We can't even spell Brighton.
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The following letter appears in the National Education Union (NEU) magazine (hat tip: Natalie S).
Note how the letter writer gleefully writes about the closure of Israeli company Sodastream’s production facilities “the loss of palestinian workers’ jobs notwithstanding”.
Which begs the question: How can they so casually dismiss the loss of income to their beloved palestinians?
Answer: the palestinians are not their beloved. At all. They are solely motivated by hatred of Israel (and I suspect the Jewish people). This letter demonstrates this in stark fashion.
Note also the editor’s response, which reveals the same contempt for palestinian Arabs.
Israellycool
Note how the letter writer gleefully writes about the closure of Israeli company Sodastream’s production facilities “the loss of palestinian workers’ jobs notwithstanding”.
Which begs the question: How can they so casually dismiss the loss of income to their beloved palestinians?
Answer: the palestinians are not their beloved. At all. They are solely motivated by hatred of Israel (and I suspect the Jewish people). This letter demonstrates this in stark fashion.
Note also the editor’s response, which reveals the same contempt for palestinian Arabs.
Israellycool
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Bigotry?
by Alan M. Dershowitz
Is Rashida Tlaib Guilty of Bigotry?
by Alan M. Dershowitz
Is Rashida Tlaib Guilty of Bigotry?
- To single out only the "Jew among nations," and not the dozens of far more serious violators of human rights is bigotry pure and simple, and those who support BDS only against Israel are guilty of bigotry.
- What is unacceptable is discriminatory actions, and nothing can be more discriminatory than singling out an ally with one of the best records of human rights in the world for a boycott, while continuing to do business with the worst human rights offenders in the world.
- Many of the same bigots who support BDS against Israel, oppose boycotting Cuba, Iran, China, Russia, Venezuela, Syria, Saudi Arabia and other human rights violators. Legislation designed to end such discriminatory actions would be constitutional, if it did not prohibit advocacy.
- No one has accused Tlaib of forgetting what country she represents when she supports the Palestinian cause, even though Palestinian terrorists, acting in the name of "Palestine," have killed numerous Americans. Americans of any religion have the right to support Israel, and most do, without being accused of disloyalty, just as Americans of any religion have the right to support the Palestinian cause. It is both bigoted and hypocritical to apply a different standard to Jews who support Israel than to Muslims who support the Palestinian cause.... If she is the "new face" of the Democratic Party, we Democrats should begin worrying.
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False argument.Bigotry?
by Alan M. Dershowitz
Is Rashida Tlaib Guilty of Bigotry?
- To single out only the "Jew among nations," and not the dozens of far more serious violators of human rights is bigotry pure and simple, and those who support BDS only against Israel are guilty of bigotry.
- What is unacceptable is discriminatory actions, and nothing can be more discriminatory than singling out an ally with one of the best records of human rights in the world for a boycott, while continuing to do business with the worst human rights offenders in the world.
- Many of the same bigots who support BDS against Israel, oppose boycotting Cuba, Iran, China, Russia, Venezuela, Syria, Saudi Arabia and other human rights violators. Legislation designed to end such discriminatory actions would be constitutional, if it did not prohibit advocacy.
- No one has accused Tlaib of forgetting what country she represents when she supports the Palestinian cause, even though Palestinian terrorists, acting in the name of "Palestine," have killed numerous Americans. Americans of any religion have the right to support Israel, and most do, without being accused of disloyalty, just as Americans of any religion have the right to support the Palestinian cause. It is both bigoted and hypocritical to apply a different standard to Jews who support Israel than to Muslims who support the Palestinian cause.... If she is the "new face" of the Democratic Party, we Democrats should begin worrying.
The Palestinians target all countries that occupy Palestine.
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False argument.Bigotry?
by Alan M. Dershowitz
Is Rashida Tlaib Guilty of Bigotry?
- To single out only the "Jew among nations," and not the dozens of far more serious violators of human rights is bigotry pure and simple, and those who support BDS only against Israel are guilty of bigotry.
- What is unacceptable is discriminatory actions, and nothing can be more discriminatory than singling out an ally with one of the best records of human rights in the world for a boycott, while continuing to do business with the worst human rights offenders in the world.
- Many of the same bigots who support BDS against Israel, oppose boycotting Cuba, Iran, China, Russia, Venezuela, Syria, Saudi Arabia and other human rights violators. Legislation designed to end such discriminatory actions would be constitutional, if it did not prohibit advocacy.
- No one has accused Tlaib of forgetting what country she represents when she supports the Palestinian cause, even though Palestinian terrorists, acting in the name of "Palestine," have killed numerous Americans. Americans of any religion have the right to support Israel, and most do, without being accused of disloyalty, just as Americans of any religion have the right to support the Palestinian cause. It is both bigoted and hypocritical to apply a different standard to Jews who support Israel than to Muslims who support the Palestinian cause.... If she is the "new face" of the Democratic Party, we Democrats should begin worrying.
The Palestinians target all countries that occupy Palestine.
No they single out only the Jews for having a state,
and none of the Arab governments ruling in the same land.
You don't hear suggestions of boycotting anyone occupying the east bank of the same land, because they don't care as long as Jews are not involved.
It's all in the open, the genocidal slogans against Jews and the calls to arms all documented, from top to bottom, no need to pretend.
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False argument.Bigotry?
by Alan M. Dershowitz
Is Rashida Tlaib Guilty of Bigotry?
- To single out only the "Jew among nations," and not the dozens of far more serious violators of human rights is bigotry pure and simple, and those who support BDS only against Israel are guilty of bigotry.
- What is unacceptable is discriminatory actions, and nothing can be more discriminatory than singling out an ally with one of the best records of human rights in the world for a boycott, while continuing to do business with the worst human rights offenders in the world.
- Many of the same bigots who support BDS against Israel, oppose boycotting Cuba, Iran, China, Russia, Venezuela, Syria, Saudi Arabia and other human rights violators. Legislation designed to end such discriminatory actions would be constitutional, if it did not prohibit advocacy.
- No one has accused Tlaib of forgetting what country she represents when she supports the Palestinian cause, even though Palestinian terrorists, acting in the name of "Palestine," have killed numerous Americans. Americans of any religion have the right to support Israel, and most do, without being accused of disloyalty, just as Americans of any religion have the right to support the Palestinian cause. It is both bigoted and hypocritical to apply a different standard to Jews who support Israel than to Muslims who support the Palestinian cause.... If she is the "new face" of the Democratic Party, we Democrats should begin worrying.
The Palestinians target all countries that occupy Palestine.
Only countries-nation states can be occupied,
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False argument.Bigotry?
by Alan M. Dershowitz
Is Rashida Tlaib Guilty of Bigotry?
- To single out only the "Jew among nations," and not the dozens of far more serious violators of human rights is bigotry pure and simple, and those who support BDS only against Israel are guilty of bigotry.
- What is unacceptable is discriminatory actions, and nothing can be more discriminatory than singling out an ally with one of the best records of human rights in the world for a boycott, while continuing to do business with the worst human rights offenders in the world.
- Many of the same bigots who support BDS against Israel, oppose boycotting Cuba, Iran, China, Russia, Venezuela, Syria, Saudi Arabia and other human rights violators. Legislation designed to end such discriminatory actions would be constitutional, if it did not prohibit advocacy.
- No one has accused Tlaib of forgetting what country she represents when she supports the Palestinian cause, even though Palestinian terrorists, acting in the name of "Palestine," have killed numerous Americans. Americans of any religion have the right to support Israel, and most do, without being accused of disloyalty, just as Americans of any religion have the right to support the Palestinian cause. It is both bigoted and hypocritical to apply a different standard to Jews who support Israel than to Muslims who support the Palestinian cause.... If she is the "new face" of the Democratic Party, we Democrats should begin worrying.
The Palestinians target all countries that occupy Palestine.
Only countries-nation states can be occupied,
Don't confuse him with facts, according to chief BDS-hole they consider "occupation" to be the mere presence of a Jewish state in any shape or form anywhere between the "river and the sea", or the entire middle east for that matter.
In plain sight:
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False argument.Bigotry?
by Alan M. Dershowitz
Is Rashida Tlaib Guilty of Bigotry?
- To single out only the "Jew among nations," and not the dozens of far more serious violators of human rights is bigotry pure and simple, and those who support BDS only against Israel are guilty of bigotry.
- What is unacceptable is discriminatory actions, and nothing can be more discriminatory than singling out an ally with one of the best records of human rights in the world for a boycott, while continuing to do business with the worst human rights offenders in the world.
- Many of the same bigots who support BDS against Israel, oppose boycotting Cuba, Iran, China, Russia, Venezuela, Syria, Saudi Arabia and other human rights violators. Legislation designed to end such discriminatory actions would be constitutional, if it did not prohibit advocacy.
- No one has accused Tlaib of forgetting what country she represents when she supports the Palestinian cause, even though Palestinian terrorists, acting in the name of "Palestine," have killed numerous Americans. Americans of any religion have the right to support Israel, and most do, without being accused of disloyalty, just as Americans of any religion have the right to support the Palestinian cause. It is both bigoted and hypocritical to apply a different standard to Jews who support Israel than to Muslims who support the Palestinian cause.... If she is the "new face" of the Democratic Party, we Democrats should begin worrying.
The Palestinians target all countries that occupy Palestine.
Only countries-nation states can be occupied,
Don't confuse him with facts, according to chief BDS-hole they consider "occupation" to be the mere presence of a Jewish state in any shape or form anywhere between the "river and the sea", or the entire middle east for that matter.
In plain sight:
Well that's what it's all about really: Jews.
Despite all the fake posturings about land, apartheid, Zionism, human rights and all that jazz, the bottom line is 'the Jews". Nothing more, nothing less. Has been for centuries, and still goes on, in all its shape shifting malevolent justifications.
He can't even be honest about it.
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Forward goes full Antisemite.
For a while now, I have documented the Israel-bashing escapades of the Jewish Forward (and its staff). And true, they have set foot in to antisemite territory on occasion (see the banner to this article for example). But I don’t recall seeing something quite as blatantly antisemitic as this piece:
The 15 Women You’ll Meet When You Date Jews In New York.
It is hard to believe anyone thought this was a good idea.
Here’s a sample (screenshots since I assume they will delete the article).
The Forward Goes Full Antisemite
For a while now, I have documented the Israel-bashing escapades of the Jewish Forward (and its staff). And true, they have set foot in to antisemite territory on occasion (see the banner to this article for example). But I don’t recall seeing something quite as blatantly antisemitic as this piece:
The 15 Women You’ll Meet When You Date Jews In New York.
It is hard to believe anyone thought this was a good idea.
Here’s a sample (screenshots since I assume they will delete the article).
The Forward Goes Full Antisemite
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Source: jpost
After outrage on social media and from anti-BDS activists, the city of Bonn in the German state of North Rhine-Westphalia deleted on Thursday an advertisement for a pro-BDS event.
The Ruhrbarone news outlet first reported that “On [the] website of the city of Bonn, an event with the activist Shir Hever is advertised with classic antisemitic statements, which is scheduled to take place in late January in the German-Kurdish cultural house.”
Bonn wrote in response that: “We regret the entry very much and apologize for that. The event calendar is not filled by us. Organizers can independently enter appointments in the calendar.”
Ruhbarone’s journalist Stefan Laurin, who is recognized as being an expert in new forms of German antisemitism, listed some of the alleged antisemitic statements from the advertisement.
“Israel has systematically violated international law for more than 70 years, with more or less open support from the US and Europe. Israel’s apartheid and colonial policies [have support from] strong Jewish lobby organizations in the USA.”
Another alleged antisemitic statement says: “Up until now, the most effective weapon of the ‘Israel lobby’ was ‘antisemitism.”’
Hever, who posted a link to the advertisement on his website, is a member of the organization Jewish Voice for a Just Peace in the Middle East, which is a sponsor of the event. Jewish Voice supports the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) campaign targeting Israel.
Anti-BDS activist Malca Goldstein-Wolf, who stopped a German TV airing of pro-BDS singer Roger Waters, has announced a rally on January 24 in front of the German-Kurdish cultural center.
German city removes antisemitic BDS event notice from its website
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