Education Dept. : BDS activity against Israel will be defined as anti-Semitism

Whichever the reason, one is forgetting all the Jews who found themselves expelled from various areas of Judea and Samaria from 1929 to 1948.
That was a response to the attacks by the Zionist's settler colonial project.

And what was the excuse for Arab Pogroms against Palestinian Jews before Zionism?
Yep...it were the same antisemitic blood libels, BDS is just the same.
Like?
Your pathetic attempts to wipe out the attacks on Palestinian Jews since 1920 by Husseini and all the Arabs in the region has become very tiresome.

{Like?} is all you can come up with?

It does not work Tinmore.

History does not back up your amnesia attacks.
 
Whichever the reason, one is forgetting all the Jews who found themselves expelled from various areas of Judea and Samaria from 1929 to 1948.
That was a response to the attacks by the Zionist's settler colonial project.

And what was the excuse for Arab Pogroms against Palestinian Jews before Zionism?
Yep...it were the same antisemitic blood libels, BDS is just the same.
Like?
Your pathetic attempts to wipe out the attacks on Palestinian Jews since 1920 by Husseini and all the Arabs in the region has become very tiresome.

{Like?} is all you can come up with?

It does not work Tinmore.

History does not back up your amnesia attacks.
Yes it does.
 
However, criticism of Israel similar to that leveled against any other country cannot be regarded as antisemitic.
:113::113::113:

No problem, that's exactly the point
but it's the BDS themselves confirming their difficulty to comply with the frame of a civilized discourse, without using double standards and hate speech.
 
Whichever the reason, one is forgetting all the Jews who found themselves expelled from various areas of Judea and Samaria from 1929 to 1948.
That was a response to the attacks by the Zionist's settler colonial project.

And what was the excuse for Arab Pogroms against Palestinian Jews before Zionism?
Yep...it were the same antisemitic blood libels, BDS is just the same.
Like?
Your pathetic attempts to wipe out the attacks on Palestinian Jews since 1920 by Husseini and all the Arabs in the region has become very tiresome.

{Like?} is all you can come up with?

It does not work Tinmore.

History does not back up your amnesia attacks.
Yes it does.
{Yes, it does. }

And "that" is all the proof you are ever going to give.
Your word as to what happened (without showing proof as to what happened) is worth a million recorded reports to the contrary.

:iyfyus.jpg:
 
That was a response to the attacks by the Zionist's settler colonial project.

And what was the excuse for Arab Pogroms against Palestinian Jews before Zionism?
Yep...it were the same antisemitic blood libels, BDS is just the same.
Like?
Your pathetic attempts to wipe out the attacks on Palestinian Jews since 1920 by Husseini and all the Arabs in the region has become very tiresome.

{Like?} is all you can come up with?

It does not work Tinmore.

History does not back up your amnesia attacks.
Yes it does.
{Yes, it does. }

And "that" is all the proof you are ever going to give.
Your word as to what happened (without showing proof as to what happened) is worth a million recorded reports to the contrary.

:iyfyus.jpg:
You are referencing actions that follow the start of the Zionist settler colonial project. Of course the Palestinian would oppose that.
 
And what was the excuse for Arab Pogroms against Palestinian Jews before Zionism?
Yep...it were the same antisemitic blood libels, BDS is just the same.
Like?
Your pathetic attempts to wipe out the attacks on Palestinian Jews since 1920 by Husseini and all the Arabs in the region has become very tiresome.

{Like?} is all you can come up with?

It does not work Tinmore.

History does not back up your amnesia attacks.
Yes it does.
{Yes, it does. }

And "that" is all the proof you are ever going to give.
Your word as to what happened (without showing proof as to what happened) is worth a million recorded reports to the contrary.

:iyfyus.jpg:
You are referencing actions that follow the start of the Zionist settler colonial project. Of course the Palestinian would oppose that.

Doesn't explain the Arab war against Palestinian Jews prior to Zionism.
Jew-haters are just desperate lowlifes attempting to sell the oldest antisemitic tricks in the book.

"Never again" means a solid intention regarding filth like that.
 
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Your pathetic attempts to wipe out the attacks on Palestinian Jews since 1920 by Husseini and all the Arabs in the region has become very tiresome.

{Like?} is all you can come up with?

It does not work Tinmore.

History does not back up your amnesia attacks.
Yes it does.
{Yes, it does. }

And "that" is all the proof you are ever going to give.
Your word as to what happened (without showing proof as to what happened) is worth a million recorded reports to the contrary.

:iyfyus.jpg:
You are referencing actions that follow the start of the Zionist settler colonial project. Of course the Palestinian would oppose that.

Doesn't explain Arab war against Palestinian Jews prior to that.
OK :confused-84:
 
How many of those are newly created in occupied/disputed territory vs long established? Not all Jewish or Arab towns are settlements, the term has a specific meaning.

Yes. It does have a specific meaning. One that applies only to Jews. That alone is problematic.

You are still trying to justify why what amounts to a discriminatory act.
Where else is another country occupying a disputed territory who’s status and ownership is yet to be settled? What other country is building new villages for one ethnic group in that territory and largely preventing any new construction for the other group that claims it? Keep in mind that in a 2016 Pew Poll 46 or 48% (don’t remember off the top of my head) of Jews in Israel want to expel all Arabs from Israel with signicantly higher numbers in certain religious subgroups. When you look at that then the issue of settlement building in occupied (according to one side) and disputed (according to the other) it looks less innocent.

If another country is doing this I would say the exact same thing, boycott and raise awareness. What country is currently engaging in this? Saying it is anti Semitic solely because Israel is being protested and other countries aren’t ignores the fact that we all selective in what we put our attention to. Why do people here focus on Palestinian rights but not the Kurds? Why do people focus on terrorist attacks and anti semitism in/towards Israel but not what is happening in Myanmar?
 
And what was the excuse for Arab Pogroms against Palestinian Jews before Zionism?
Yep...it were the same antisemitic blood libels, BDS is just the same.
Like?
Your pathetic attempts to wipe out the attacks on Palestinian Jews since 1920 by Husseini and all the Arabs in the region has become very tiresome.

{Like?} is all you can come up with?

It does not work Tinmore.

History does not back up your amnesia attacks.
Yes it does.
{Yes, it does. }

And "that" is all the proof you are ever going to give.
Your word as to what happened (without showing proof as to what happened) is worth a million recorded reports to the contrary.

:iyfyus.jpg:
You are referencing actions that follow the start of the Zionist settler colonial project. Of course the Palestinian would oppose that.
Do you mean to say that the Palestinian Jews had no opposition to seeing all of those invading Arabs migrate into their ancient homeland?

I would love to see you find an episode where Jews attacked Arabs on Jewish homeland from the 7th century until 1920, the year the attacks on the "zionists" began.

Go ahead !
 
How many of those are newly created in occupied/disputed territory vs long established? Not all Jewish or Arab towns are settlements, the term has a specific meaning.

Yes. It does have a specific meaning. One that applies only to Jews. That alone is problematic.

You are still trying to justify why what amounts to a discriminatory act.
Where else is another country occupying a disputed territory who’s status and ownership is yet to be settled? What other country is building new villages for one ethnic group in that territory and largely preventing any new construction for the other group that claims it? Keep in mind that in a 2016 Pew Poll 46 or 48% (don’t remember off the top of my head) of Jews in Israel want to expel all Arabs from Israel with signicantly higher numbers in certain religious subgroups. When you look at that then the issue of settlement building in occupied (according to one side) and disputed (according to the other) it looks less innocent.

If another country is doing this I would say the exact same thing, boycott and raise awareness. What country is currently engaging in this? Saying it is anti Semitic solely because Israel is being protested and other countries aren’t ignores the fact that we all selective in what we put our attention to. Why do people here focus on Palestinian rights but not the Kurds? Why do people focus on terrorist attacks and anti semitism in/towards Israel but not what is happening in Myanmar?
Do you not find it fascinating that once Israel got Judea and Samaria in 1967, that area became "occupied".

But Jordan taking over the same area and the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem from 1948 to 1967 was never considered "occupied" by the world and much less the Arabs in question.

I do not believe that you do understand why the BDS movement, started by Arabs, is exclusively a movement against Israel.

There is no BDS movement against any other country which is clearly occupying the land of another people (Turkey in Cyprus, etc) and there will never be.

How, and why is that?
 
Trump's Education Department weighs in on anti-Semitism case

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump’s Education Department has reopened an old discrimination case against Rutgers University and is revisiting what constitutes anti-Semitism.

The case stems from a 2011 event sponsored at Rutgers by an outside organization that was accused of charging Jewish attendees for admission while allowing others in for free.

The initial investigation was closed by the department under President Barack Obama’s administration in 2014. But the Zionist Group of America says the department has reopened the case based on its appeal.

In a letter to the group, Kenneth Marcus, the assistant secretary of education for civil rights, cites a broad definition of anti-Semitism that includes, among other things, “holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel.”

That language was adopted in 2016 by the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance, an intergovernmental group that includes the United States and European Union states, and was embraced by the State Department under the Obama administration.

In his letter, Marcus also said discrimination “on the basis of actual or perceived shared ancestry or ethnic characteristics” would violate federal discrimination laws and falls under the agency’s description. The statement appears to indicate that the department is considering anti-Semitism as discrimination against an ethnic group, not a religious one.


Interesting case especially with the definition of anti semitism. I wonder how many people realize that holding all responsible for the actions of some is exactly what is routinely done with Muslims here. Same card, dopifferent faces. One is condemned, the other justified. I agree with the definition...it is the ultimate irony though that many of those who do do not see how they themselves are utilizing the same rhetoric against other groups.
 
Trump's Education Department weighs in on anti-Semitism case

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump’s Education Department has reopened an old discrimination case against Rutgers University and is revisiting what constitutes anti-Semitism.

The case stems from a 2011 event sponsored at Rutgers by an outside organization that was accused of charging Jewish attendees for admission while allowing others in for free.

The initial investigation was closed by the department under President Barack Obama’s administration in 2014. But the Zionist Group of America says the department has reopened the case based on its appeal.

In a letter to the group, Kenneth Marcus, the assistant secretary of education for civil rights, cites a broad definition of anti-Semitism that includes, among other things, “holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel.”

That language was adopted in 2016 by the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance, an intergovernmental group that includes the United States and European Union states, and was embraced by the State Department under the Obama administration.

In his letter, Marcus also said discrimination “on the basis of actual or perceived shared ancestry or ethnic characteristics” would violate federal discrimination laws and falls under the agency’s description. The statement appears to indicate that the department is considering anti-Semitism as discrimination against an ethnic group, not a religious one.


Interesting case especially with the definition of anti semitism. I wonder how many people realize that holding all responsible for the actions of some is exactly what is routinely done with Muslims here. Same card, dopifferent faces. One is condemned, the other justified. I agree with the definition...it is the ultimate irony though that many of those who do do not see how they themselves are utilizing the same rhetoric against other groups.

Excuse me but.....OH, Please !!!!!

None of us has ever considered all Muslims responsible for the acts of some Muslims.

If it were so, there would be no Muslims living in Israel, as there are no Jews living in Gaza, Jordan and most of the Muslim countries.

Unfortunately, you alone as well as a few others, do not see the irony of what you post.
 
How many of those are newly created in occupied/disputed territory vs long established? Not all Jewish or Arab towns are settlements, the term has a specific meaning.

Yes. It does have a specific meaning. One that applies only to Jews. That alone is problematic.

You are still trying to justify why what amounts to a discriminatory act.
Where else is another country occupying a disputed territory who’s status and ownership is yet to be settled? What other country is building new villages for one ethnic group in that territory and largely preventing any new construction for the other group that claims it? Keep in mind that in a 2016 Pew Poll 46 or 48% (don’t remember off the top of my head) of Jews in Israel want to expel all Arabs from Israel with signicantly higher numbers in certain religious subgroups. When you look at that then the issue of settlement building in occupied (according to one side) and disputed (according to the other) it looks less innocent.

If another country is doing this I would say the exact same thing, boycott and raise awareness. What country is currently engaging in this? Saying it is anti Semitic solely because Israel is being protested and other countries aren’t ignores the fact that we all selective in what we put our attention to. Why do people here focus on Palestinian rights but not the Kurds? Why do people focus on terrorist attacks and anti semitism in/towards Israel but not what is happening in Myanmar?
Do you not find it fascinating that once Israel got Judea and Samaria in 1967, that area became "occupied".

But Jordan taking over the same area and the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem from 1948 to 1967 was never considered "occupied" by the world and much less the Arabs in question.

I do not believe that you do understand why the BDS movement, started by Arabs, is exclusively a movement against Israel.

There is no BDS movement against any other country which is clearly occupying the land of another people (Turkey in Cyprus, etc) and there will never be.

How, and why is that?

The Cuban embargo’s, started by Cuban Americans against Cuba was solely against Cuba. Is that exclusivity wrong?

Embargo’s are usually targeted. If a group feels strongly about the behavior or injustice of a particular entity are they bigoted because all such actors around the world?

Why do call for and support Palestinian disinvestment but ignore Myanmar?
 
Trump's Education Department weighs in on anti-Semitism case

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump’s Education Department has reopened an old discrimination case against Rutgers University and is revisiting what constitutes anti-Semitism.

The case stems from a 2011 event sponsored at Rutgers by an outside organization that was accused of charging Jewish attendees for admission while allowing others in for free.

The initial investigation was closed by the department under President Barack Obama’s administration in 2014. But the Zionist Group of America says the department has reopened the case based on its appeal.

In a letter to the group, Kenneth Marcus, the assistant secretary of education for civil rights, cites a broad definition of anti-Semitism that includes, among other things, “holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel.”

That language was adopted in 2016 by the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance, an intergovernmental group that includes the United States and European Union states, and was embraced by the State Department under the Obama administration.

In his letter, Marcus also said discrimination “on the basis of actual or perceived shared ancestry or ethnic characteristics” would violate federal discrimination laws and falls under the agency’s description. The statement appears to indicate that the department is considering anti-Semitism as discrimination against an ethnic group, not a religious one.


Interesting case especially with the definition of anti semitism. I wonder how many people realize that holding all responsible for the actions of some is exactly what is routinely done with Muslims here. Same card, dopifferent faces. One is condemned, the other justified. I agree with the definition...it is the ultimate irony though that many of those who do do not see how they themselves are utilizing the same rhetoric against other groups.


How is it that in every case people want to discuss antisemitism, Muslim groups cry foul?
Here's another fact for Your moral relativism - there're no Arab support in the combat against Jew-hatred (not to mention incitement), but there's a significant representation of Jewish organizations fighting for rights of the Muslim community.
 
Trump's Education Department weighs in on anti-Semitism case

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump’s Education Department has reopened an old discrimination case against Rutgers University and is revisiting what constitutes anti-Semitism.

The case stems from a 2011 event sponsored at Rutgers by an outside organization that was accused of charging Jewish attendees for admission while allowing others in for free.

The initial investigation was closed by the department under President Barack Obama’s administration in 2014. But the Zionist Group of America says the department has reopened the case based on its appeal.

In a letter to the group, Kenneth Marcus, the assistant secretary of education for civil rights, cites a broad definition of anti-Semitism that includes, among other things, “holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel.”

That language was adopted in 2016 by the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance, an intergovernmental group that includes the United States and European Union states, and was embraced by the State Department under the Obama administration.

In his letter, Marcus also said discrimination “on the basis of actual or perceived shared ancestry or ethnic characteristics” would violate federal discrimination laws and falls under the agency’s description. The statement appears to indicate that the department is considering anti-Semitism as discrimination against an ethnic group, not a religious one.


Interesting case especially with the definition of anti semitism. I wonder how many people realize that holding all responsible for the actions of some is exactly what is routinely done with Muslims here. Same card, dopifferent faces. One is condemned, the other justified. I agree with the definition...it is the ultimate irony though that many of those who do do not see how they themselves are utilizing the same rhetoric against other groups.

Excuse me but.....OH, Please !!!!!

None of us has ever considered all Muslims responsible for the acts of some Muslims.

If it were so, there would be no Muslims living in Israel, as there are no Jews living in Gaza, Jordan and most of the Muslim countries.

Unfortunately, you alone as well as a few others, do not see the irony of what you post.


You are very restricted in what you read. There are countless posts here in auSMB essentially blaming all Muslims or all Palestinians for the acts of terrorism or violence. You easily see antisemitism, not so easily when the target is a group you don’t particularly agree with. Why not apply the same standards to both groups?
 
Trump's Education Department weighs in on anti-Semitism case

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump’s Education Department has reopened an old discrimination case against Rutgers University and is revisiting what constitutes anti-Semitism.

The case stems from a 2011 event sponsored at Rutgers by an outside organization that was accused of charging Jewish attendees for admission while allowing others in for free.

The initial investigation was closed by the department under President Barack Obama’s administration in 2014. But the Zionist Group of America says the department has reopened the case based on its appeal.

In a letter to the group, Kenneth Marcus, the assistant secretary of education for civil rights, cites a broad definition of anti-Semitism that includes, among other things, “holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel.”

That language was adopted in 2016 by the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance, an intergovernmental group that includes the United States and European Union states, and was embraced by the State Department under the Obama administration.

In his letter, Marcus also said discrimination “on the basis of actual or perceived shared ancestry or ethnic characteristics” would violate federal discrimination laws and falls under the agency’s description. The statement appears to indicate that the department is considering anti-Semitism as discrimination against an ethnic group, not a religious one.


Interesting case especially with the definition of anti semitism. I wonder how many people realize that holding all responsible for the actions of some is exactly what is routinely done with Muslims here. Same card, dopifferent faces. One is condemned, the other justified. I agree with the definition...it is the ultimate irony though that many of those who do do not see how they themselves are utilizing the same rhetoric against other groups.

Excuse me but.....OH, Please !!!!!

None of us has ever considered all Muslims responsible for the acts of some Muslims.

If it were so, there would be no Muslims living in Israel, as there are no Jews living in Gaza, Jordan and most of the Muslim countries.

Unfortunately, you alone as well as a few others, do not see the irony of what you post.


You are very restricted in what you read. There are countless posts here in auSMB essentially blaming all Muslims or all Palestinians for the acts of terrorism or violence. You easily see antisemitism, not so easily when the target is a group you don’t particularly agree with. Why not apply the same standards to both groups?


Why not apply the same standards of combating racial discrimination
to give stage and campus time to organizations such as the KKK?
 
Trump's Education Department weighs in on anti-Semitism case

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump’s Education Department has reopened an old discrimination case against Rutgers University and is revisiting what constitutes anti-Semitism.

The case stems from a 2011 event sponsored at Rutgers by an outside organization that was accused of charging Jewish attendees for admission while allowing others in for free.

The initial investigation was closed by the department under President Barack Obama’s administration in 2014. But the Zionist Group of America says the department has reopened the case based on its appeal.

In a letter to the group, Kenneth Marcus, the assistant secretary of education for civil rights, cites a broad definition of anti-Semitism that includes, among other things, “holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel.”

That language was adopted in 2016 by the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance, an intergovernmental group that includes the United States and European Union states, and was embraced by the State Department under the Obama administration.

In his letter, Marcus also said discrimination “on the basis of actual or perceived shared ancestry or ethnic characteristics” would violate federal discrimination laws and falls under the agency’s description. The statement appears to indicate that the department is considering anti-Semitism as discrimination against an ethnic group, not a religious one.


Interesting case especially with the definition of anti semitism. I wonder how many people realize that holding all responsible for the actions of some is exactly what is routinely done with Muslims here. Same card, dopifferent faces. One is condemned, the other justified. I agree with the definition...it is the ultimate irony though that many of those who do do not see how they themselves are utilizing the same rhetoric against other groups.

Excuse me but.....OH, Please !!!!!

None of us has ever considered all Muslims responsible for the acts of some Muslims.

If it were so, there would be no Muslims living in Israel, as there are no Jews living in Gaza, Jordan and most of the Muslim countries.

Unfortunately, you alone as well as a few others, do not see the irony of what you post.


You are very restricted in what you read. There are countless posts here in auSMB essentially blaming all Muslims or all Palestinians for the acts of terrorism or violence. You easily see antisemitism, not so easily when the target is a group you don’t particularly agree with. Why not apply the same standards to both groups?

I do not know who those pro Israel people blaming ALL Muslims or all Palestinians are, and in which communities or threads.

All I know is that none of those I know in this community and threads have done so.

In what ways in Israel, or Jews in the world, boycotting or harming the Palestinians living anywhere in the world, or especially in Israel?

If you are talking about the legal embargo started by Israel against Gaza after Israel left that place, then you do need to bring the why it had to be done, and why it must continue to be so.

If you insist that Israel has not been attacked by thousands of rockets since 2005, and now, included, thousands of fires started by the people of Gaza against Jews in Israel, and that there has never been a need to start that embargo to keep weapons from the hands of Hamas and other terror organizations over there, then you truly do not understand the issues between Hamas (Gaza) and the State of Israel.

If Jews were to target Jordan, Saudi Arabia, etc, the way all of those countries have always targeted Israel, attempting to destroy it.......considering how fragile they can be economically........

Where is the Israeli BDS movement against any and all of those Muslim countries, or against the Palestinians, when Israel gives jobs, education and health care to so many of them?

How many Jews or Israelis are being given jobs, education, or health care in Yemen, Egypt, Syria, etc? Seriously?

How many Jews are left in any of those Muslim countries?

Tunisia seems to be an exception, as well as very few Muslim countries friendly towards Israel, at the moment.

Can you actually say that Israelis have been against Palestinians since 1920 and attempted attacks on them and did everything to keep those Arabs from building up and having their own States in 1937 and 1947? Or anytime after?
 
Trump's Education Department weighs in on anti-Semitism case

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump’s Education Department has reopened an old discrimination case against Rutgers University and is revisiting what constitutes anti-Semitism.

The case stems from a 2011 event sponsored at Rutgers by an outside organization that was accused of charging Jewish attendees for admission while allowing others in for free.

The initial investigation was closed by the department under President Barack Obama’s administration in 2014. But the Zionist Group of America says the department has reopened the case based on its appeal.

In a letter to the group, Kenneth Marcus, the assistant secretary of education for civil rights, cites a broad definition of anti-Semitism that includes, among other things, “holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel.”

That language was adopted in 2016 by the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance, an intergovernmental group that includes the United States and European Union states, and was embraced by the State Department under the Obama administration.

In his letter, Marcus also said discrimination “on the basis of actual or perceived shared ancestry or ethnic characteristics” would violate federal discrimination laws and falls under the agency’s description. The statement appears to indicate that the department is considering anti-Semitism as discrimination against an ethnic group, not a religious one.


Interesting case especially with the definition of anti semitism. I wonder how many people realize that holding all responsible for the actions of some is exactly what is routinely done with Muslims here. Same card, dopifferent faces. One is condemned, the other justified. I agree with the definition...it is the ultimate irony though that many of those who do do not see how they themselves are utilizing the same rhetoric against other groups.


How is it that in every case people want to discuss antisemitism, Muslim groups cry foul.
Here's another fact for Your moral relativism - there're no Arab support in the combat of antisemitism (not to mention incitement), but there's a significant representation of Jewish organizations fighting for rights of the Muslim community.

What moral relativism?

And I am actually talking about people HERE. And I forget a lot of folks in these type of threads only post in IP. That means you don’t see a lot of what gets said outside your interests,

In terms of groups I agree there are more Jewish groups fighting for the rights of others than Arab groups. But there are Muslim groups, at least in the US fighting against antisemitism together with other faith groups. That tends to get ignored or desparaged.

Regardless though, are you saying because the balance is lopsided it is acceptable? Behavior mirroring your definition of antisemitism (one that comes to mind that is often repeated here is that Islam is incompatible with democracy and Muslims can’t be real Americans, an echo of Jews are loyal to Israel over xyz claims).

When hatred exists, along the lines outlined in the definition you posted it should be confronted regardless of how you feel about the target or how much you might support the group. For example...what is happening with UK’s labor party and the really disturbing revelations about Corbin. Is that supportable simply because you agree with the left ideology over right? You can’t support it. You can’t excuse it. You can only excise it.

Claims of relative moralism seems like a way of excusing the inexcusable.
 

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