economic growth 4th quarter 2018 revised down

I get the feeling that it is good news to lefties. Am I wrong?
Maybe not entirely wrong, but that doesn't mean massive corruption among major Wall Street banks doesn't pose a threat to millions of Americans:

Share Buybacks Have Created a Dangerous Bubble in Wall Street Bank Stocks

"JPMorgan Chase is a Wall Street bank that has pleaded guilty to three felony counts in the past five years and lost at least $6.2 billion of its depositors’ money trading high-risk derivatives in London.

"And yet, somehow, the bank has a market capitalization (the value of all of its shares outstanding) that makes it among the most valuable companies in the Standard & Poor’s 500."


Their depositors didn't lose a dime.

Love your new favorite Wall Street site.
Lots of silly conspiracy BS on there.
As well as plain vanilla stupidity.
Their depositors didn't lose a dime.
Who covered depositors' losses?
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"The hook for The Journal’s screed was the recent decision of Joon Kim, the acting United States attorney in Manhattan, to drop charges against two former JPMorgan Chase traders involved in the 'London Whale' trading debacle in 2012, when a group of traders lost some $6.2 billion after making big — and decidedly wrong — bets on derivatives using depositors’ money.

"They worked in a group at the bank responsible for investing depositors’ money that isn’t being lent out.

"Mr. Kim apparently decided to drop the case because a key witness was no longer reliable.

"The Journal praised that decision, claiming it was a good one since 'no customers’ funds were lost' and because the bank made $5 billion in profit during the second quarter of 2012.

"But Jesse Eisinger, the author of a new book about the Justice Department’s failure to prosecute bankers, traders and executives in the aftermath of the financial crisis, said in an email that the 'standard for fraud' is not whether customer deposits were lost (and they would have been for sure had all depositors demanded their money all at once), nor whether the bank made a profit during the quarter that the loss occurred.

"'That’s irrelevant,' he said. What’s important is that these men and women knew what they were doing was wrong.

"Instead of a reason to celebrate, Mr. Kim’s decision to drop the London Whale case, which began under his predecessor Preet Bharara, really was another example of prosecutorial failure."

The Whale That Should Not Have Gotten Away

Who covered depositors' losses?

What part of "Their depositors didn't lose a dime" was too complex for you?

not whether customer deposits were lost (and they would have been for sure had all depositors demanded their money all at once),

Why would all depositors have tried to withdraw over $1.3 trillion (TRILLION!) in deposits all at once?

 
I get the feeling that it is good news to lefties. Am I wrong?
Maybe not entirely wrong, but that doesn't mean massive corruption among major Wall Street banks doesn't pose a threat to millions of Americans:

Share Buybacks Have Created a Dangerous Bubble in Wall Street Bank Stocks

"JPMorgan Chase is a Wall Street bank that has pleaded guilty to three felony counts in the past five years and lost at least $6.2 billion of its depositors’ money trading high-risk derivatives in London.

"And yet, somehow, the bank has a market capitalization (the value of all of its shares outstanding) that makes it among the most valuable companies in the Standard & Poor’s 500."


Their depositors didn't lose a dime.

Love your new favorite Wall Street site.
Lots of silly conspiracy BS on there.
As well as plain vanilla stupidity.
Love your new favorite Wall Street site.
Lots of silly conspiracy BS on there.
As well as plain vanilla stupidity
What flavors does greed come in?
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"During the American Civil War, John Pierpoint Morgan financed the purchase of 5,000 surplus rifles at $3.50 each, which were then sold back to the government for $22 each. The incident became renowned as a scandalous example of wartime profiteering. Interest in the incident was revived in 1910 as an indictment of Morgan."
Hall Carbine Affair - Wikipedia

What flavors does greed come in?

WallStreetOnParade comes in extra nutty flavor.
 
I'll bet you believe in the integrity of Wall Street.
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"According to JPMorgan’s 10K, it has sold credit derivative protection on $177 billion of 'subinvestment grade' i.e., junk credits.


"When you sell credit protection, you are on the hook to pay the buyer if that entity goes belly up. When you are selling credit protection on subinvestment grade entities, it is far more likely that they could go belly up.

"JPMorgan Chase will likely argue that they have also purchased boatloads of credit derivatives, which might be on the same entities, but there is no way for anyone to accurately predict if this mega bank has aligned these risks correctly. Even the bank admits that, writing in its 10K the following:

“JPMorgan Chase could incur significant losses arising from concentrations of credit and market risk. JPMorgan Chase is exposed to greater credit and market risk to the extent that groupings of its clients or counterparties:

“Engage in similar or related business, or in businesses in related industries;

“do business in the same geographic region, or;

“have business profiles, models or strategies that could cause their ability to meet their obligations to be similarly affected by changes in economic conditions.

"'For example, a significant deterioration in the credit quality of one of JPMorgan Chase’s borrowers or counterparties could lead to concerns about the creditworthiness of other borrowers or counterparties in similar, related or dependent industries. This type of interrelationship could exacerbate JPMorgan Chase’s credit, liquidity and market risk exposure and potentially cause it to incur losses, including fair value losses in its market-making businesses…'

"'JPMorgan Chase regularly monitors various segments of its credit and market risk exposures to assess the potential risks of concentration or contagion, but its efforts to diversify or hedge its exposures against those risks may not be successful.'

"We know very well that JPMorgan Chase 'may not be successful' in managing its derivative risks because as recently as 2012 it lost at least $6.2 billion of its bank depositors’ money gambling in derivatives in London.

"That episode was known as the London Whale incident and triggered a 9-month investigation by the U.S. Senate’s Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations."

Mega Banks Tell SEC: Derivatives Could Blow Up Wall Street Again

I'll bet you believe in the integrity of Wall Street.

I bet you believe that commietard has a clue.


"According to JPMorgan’s 10K, it has sold credit derivative protection on $177 billion of 'subinvestment grade' i.e., junk credits.

And?

"When you sell credit protection, you are on the hook to pay the buyer if that entity goes belly up. When you are selling credit protection on subinvestment grade entities, it is far more likely that they could go belly up.

That's why you charge more on lower grade credits.

"JPMorgan Chase will likely argue that they have also purchased boatloads of credit derivatives, which might be on the same entities, but there is no way for anyone to accurately predict if this mega bank has aligned these risks correctly.

Exactly. So why are you predicting a blow up?
There's sssooooooo much to smear... :21:

Exactly. So why are you predicting a blow up?
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Former JPMorgan trader Iksil links Dimon to ‘London Whale’ losses

JPMorgan, $30 billion in net earnings last year.
Over $22 billion in net earnings in each of the 3 prior years.

Yeah, they're on death's door.
I don’t love J P Morgan, buy my son tells me Jamie Dimon is one of the best managers on the planet.
I don’t love J P Morgan, buy my son tells me Jamie Dimon is one of the best managers on the planet.
J P Morgan

"His millionaire father, Junius, made his fortune by investing other people’s money and helped found modern investment banking.

"When John Pierpont, or JP, is a child, Junius has him handle a million dollars in cash so he knows what it feels like.

"JP Morgan is taught early to avoid risk.

"Morgan escapes military service during the Civil War by paying $300 to a substitute to fight for him.

"During the war he buys five thousand rifles at $3.50 each and sells them on at $22 apiece.

"The rifles are defective and some shoot off the thumbs of the soldiers firing them.

"Later, a congressional committee notes this but a federal judge upholds the deal and Morgan is exonerated."
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Morgan appears to have much in common with the current coward living in the White House?

"His millionaire father, Junius, made his fortune by investing other people’s money and helped found modern investment banking.

Oh no!!!
That's terrible.

Wait, why is that terrible?
 
I stated the law.

Any money spend on politics would be by specific donation.

Union dues can not be used for political donations.

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Teachers Unions | OpenSecrets

DURR
Political donations from union members are separate from the union dues. I thought a smart economist like you would know that.
Wage garnishments are not donations.
I wish you ******* morons would take some time & get educated.

For the union to collect money to use in political efforts, the member have to agree to donate money for that purpose as separate from union dues.

Take sometime& get a ******* education because between you don't know shit.

Not the Fast &furious bullshit. It was a locally run program.

I love it,. You assfucks fight tooth & nail to allow gun stores In AZ to sell AK-47s in lots of 70 & then have a fit when the feds try to trace them to the real buyers.

Don't pret=end you give a shit about guns illegally going into Mexico.


Once again you conflate legalities with reality.
Just like Obama allowed fun-running South of the Border.
 
Tell us how you don't want to hurt Americans.
That is not what I said. Quit lying.
Oh... so...
You'd rather see a strong economy and a Trump win in 2020 over a recession and a Trump loss.
Right?
I want a good economy.
Even if it means a Trump win in 2020.
Right?

A good economy based on jacking up the debt only works with his feeble minded base.

Trump is killing farmers. He is hurting IS Manufacturers. He is hurting US exporters.

He totally mismanaged the border.

He Totally failed on healthcare

He failed on infrastructure

He failed in trade

He failed in foreign policy.

He failed helping Puerto Rico.

His cabinet picks were failures

Many of his campaign members & advisors were crooks & liars
 
Tell us how you don't want to hurt Americans.
That is not what I said. Quit lying.
Oh... so...
You'd rather see a strong economy and a Trump win in 2020 over a recession and a Trump loss.
Right?
I want a good economy.
Even if it means a Trump win in 2020.
Right?
A good economy based on jacking up the debt...
Unsurprisingly, you avoided the question.
You want a good economy... even if it leads to a Trump win?
 
Tell us how you don't want to hurt Americans.
That is not what I said. Quit lying.
Oh... so...
You'd rather see a strong economy and a Trump win in 2020 over a recession and a Trump loss.
Right?
I want a good economy.
Even if it means a Trump win in 2020.
Right?

A good economy based on jacking up the debt only works with his feeble minded base.

Trump is killing farmers. He is hurting IS Manufacturers. He is hurting US exporters.

He totally mismanaged the border.

He Totally failed on healthcare

He failed on infrastructure

He failed in trade

He failed in foreign policy.

He failed helping Puerto Rico.

His cabinet picks were failures

Many of his campaign members & advisors were crooks & liars
Because supporting another million illegals is good for our economy.
I wouldn’t be surprised if you’re one of them.
And please don’t tell us you’re a retired scientist.
 
That is not what I said. Quit lying.
Oh... so...
You'd rather see a strong economy and a Trump win in 2020 over a recession and a Trump loss.
Right?
I want a good economy.
Even if it means a Trump win in 2020.
Right?

A good economy based on jacking up the debt only works with his feeble minded base.

Trump is killing farmers. He is hurting IS Manufacturers. He is hurting US exporters.

He totally mismanaged the border.

He Totally failed on healthcare

He failed on infrastructure

He failed in trade

He failed in foreign policy.

He failed helping Puerto Rico.

His cabinet picks were failures

Many of his campaign members & advisors were crooks & liars
Because supporting another million illegals is good for our economy.
I wouldn’t be surprised if you’re one of them.
And please don’t tell us you’re a retired scientist.


Great reply. You did a great job of changing the subject to avoid talking about the failures of Trump.
 
Oh... so...
You'd rather see a strong economy and a Trump win in 2020 over a recession and a Trump loss.
Right?
I want a good economy.
Even if it means a Trump win in 2020.
Right?

A good economy based on jacking up the debt only works with his feeble minded base.

Trump is killing farmers. He is hurting IS Manufacturers. He is hurting US exporters.

He totally mismanaged the border.

He Totally failed on healthcare

He failed on infrastructure

He failed in trade

He failed in foreign policy.

He failed helping Puerto Rico.

His cabinet picks were failures

Many of his campaign members & advisors were crooks & liars
Because supporting another million illegals is good for our economy.
I wouldn’t be surprised if you’re one of them.
And please don’t tell us you’re a retired scientist.


Great reply. You did a great job of changing the subject to avoid talking about the failures of Trump.
My post is right to the point.
I have no desire to be taxed to support other nations or invaders.
 
I want a good economy.
Even if it means a Trump win in 2020.
Right?

A good economy based on jacking up the debt only works with his feeble minded base.

Trump is killing farmers. He is hurting IS Manufacturers. He is hurting US exporters.

He totally mismanaged the border.

He Totally failed on healthcare

He failed on infrastructure

He failed in trade

He failed in foreign policy.

He failed helping Puerto Rico.

His cabinet picks were failures

Many of his campaign members & advisors were crooks & liars
Because supporting another million illegals is good for our economy.
I wouldn’t be surprised if you’re one of them.
And please don’t tell us you’re a retired scientist.


Great reply. You did a great job of changing the subject to avoid talking about the failures of Trump.
My post is right to the point.
I have no desire to be taxed to support other nations or invaders.
Have fun processing all of these asylum seekers. You & trump think alike.
 
Even if it means a Trump win in 2020.
Right?

A good economy based on jacking up the debt only works with his feeble minded base.

Trump is killing farmers. He is hurting IS Manufacturers. He is hurting US exporters.

He totally mismanaged the border.

He Totally failed on healthcare

He failed on infrastructure

He failed in trade

He failed in foreign policy.

He failed helping Puerto Rico.

His cabinet picks were failures

Many of his campaign members & advisors were crooks & liars
Because supporting another million illegals is good for our economy.
I wouldn’t be surprised if you’re one of them.
And please don’t tell us you’re a retired scientist.


Great reply. You did a great job of changing the subject to avoid talking about the failures of Trump.
My post is right to the point.
I have no desire to be taxed to support other nations or invaders.
Have fun processing all of these asylum seekers. You & trump think alike.
Have fun living off my tax dollars.
 

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