EC created to protect slave states

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For those people propagating the myth that the electoral college was implemented to make sure presidents campaigned in smaller states, wise up:

Electoral College is 'vestige' of slavery, say some Constitutional scholars

Madison knew that the North would outnumber the South, despite there being more than half a million slaves in the South who were their economic vitality, but could not vote. His proposition for the Electoral College included the “three-fifths compromise,” where black people could be counted as three-fifths of a person, instead of a whole. This clause garnered the state 12 out of 91 electoral votes, more than a quarter of what a president needed to win.
 

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For those people propagating the myth that the electoral college was implemented to make sure presidents campaigned in smaller states, wise up:

Electoral College is 'vestige' of slavery, say some Constitutional scholars

Madison knew that the North would outnumber the South, despite there being more than half a million slaves in the South who were their economic vitality, but could not vote. His proposition for the Electoral College included the “three-fifths compromise,” where black people could be counted as three-fifths of a person, instead of a whole. This clause garnered the state 12 out of 91 electoral votes, more than a quarter of what a president needed to win.

And the irony is when Democrats rounded them all up and put them in the vertical plantations they still count as the same ratio.
 
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This is an academic question about the constitution. What do democrats have to do with anything?
 

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This is an academic question about the constitution. What do democrats have to do with anything?
The Saul Alinsky Radicals were working to get rid of it.
 

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So Obama really fucked up by not changing this when he took office as POTUS and had the HOUSE AND THE SENATE.

I can only conclude that Obama is racist.
 

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For those people propagating the myth that the electoral college was implemented to make sure presidents campaigned in smaller states, wise up:

Electoral College is 'vestige' of slavery, say some Constitutional scholars

Madison knew that the North would outnumber the South, despite there being more than half a million slaves in the South who were their economic vitality, but could not vote. His proposition for the Electoral College included the “three-fifths compromise,” where black people could be counted as three-fifths of a person, instead of a whole. This clause garnered the state 12 out of 91 electoral votes, more than a quarter of what a president needed to win.
Wrong. It was big vs small states, regardless of slave population. You can blame slave state power on the 3/5ths compromise, which was actually a sop to the North, because the South wanted them counted as 5/5, not 3/5, despite their status as property.
 

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For those people propagating the myth that the electoral college was implemented to make sure presidents campaigned in smaller states, wise up:

Electoral College is 'vestige' of slavery, say some Constitutional scholars

Madison knew that the North would outnumber the South, despite there being more than half a million slaves in the South who were their economic vitality, but could not vote. His proposition for the Electoral College included the “three-fifths compromise,” where black people could be counted as three-fifths of a person, instead of a whole. This clause garnered the state 12 out of 91 electoral votes, more than a quarter of what a president needed to win.
Wrong. It was big vs small states, regardless of slave population. You can blame slave state power on the 3/5ths compromise, which was actually a sop to the North, because the South wanted them counted as 5/5, not 3/5, despite their status as property.

That was the compromise, they originally wanted individual count, which would have given more power to the Southern States.
That would have made it impossible to oppose slavery.
 

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For those people propagating the myth that the electoral college was implemented to make sure presidents campaigned in smaller states, wise up:

Electoral College is 'vestige' of slavery, say some Constitutional scholars

Madison knew that the North would outnumber the South, despite there being more than half a million slaves in the South who were their economic vitality, but could not vote. His proposition for the Electoral College included the “three-fifths compromise,” where black people could be counted as three-fifths of a person, instead of a whole. This clause garnered the state 12 out of 91 electoral votes, more than a quarter of what a president needed to win.
Wrong. It was big vs small states, regardless of slave population. You can blame slave state power on the 3/5ths compromise, which was actually a sop to the North, because the South wanted them counted as 5/5, not 3/5, despite their status as property.

That was the compromise, they originally wanted individual count, which would have given more power to the Southern States.
That would have made it impossible to oppose slavery.
I'm sure there was haggling as well between 2/5ths and 3/5ths once the North got the South past the "count them as 5/5".

Actually the biggest winner of 5/5 would have been Virginia.
 

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The electoral college was a result of the individual states still thinking of themselves as sovereign nation-states.
Remember under the Articles of Confederation, each state had one vote in the Congress, regardless of its size.
 

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For those people propagating the myth that the electoral college was implemented to make sure presidents campaigned in smaller states, wise up:

Electoral College is 'vestige' of slavery, say some Constitutional scholars

Madison knew that the North would outnumber the South, despite there being more than half a million slaves in the South who were their economic vitality, but could not vote. His proposition for the Electoral College included the “three-fifths compromise,” where black people could be counted as three-fifths of a person, instead of a whole. This clause garnered the state 12 out of 91 electoral votes, more than a quarter of what a president needed to win.
Wrong. It was big vs small states, regardless of slave population. You can blame slave state power on the 3/5ths compromise, which was actually a sop to the North, because the South wanted them counted as 5/5, not 3/5, despite their status as property.

That was the compromise, they originally wanted individual count, which would have given more power to the Southern States.
That would have made it impossible to oppose slavery.
I'm sure there was haggling as well between 2/5ths and 3/5ths once the North got the South past the "count them as 5/5".

Actually the biggest winner of 5/5 would have been Virginia.

Look how well that turned out.
The State got split after the civil war.
 

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