'Ebola Doctor' in US hospital now

[PoliticalTorch]

We are all going to die!

I don't know if you meant that as sarcasm or you are speaking from genuine fear. I've recently heard talk around town from some people who are asking why they aren't placing barriers around the hospital and bringing in the National Guard and picketing his having been brought back to this country and pushing for him to be sent back to where he became infected or to be treated elsewhere. That kind of took me aback for a moment as I pondered what they were saying.

What do you all say to that? Was that a cruel way of them to be thinking or a more practical one?

The US government may have brought infected individuals into the USA to help them survive.

They may have brought them into the USA to better study the effects of the virus on human victims.

I lean toward the latter explaination.

Well it has been said that there were actually two people who contracted Ebola who were brought back into this country. The other person was a lady. But that there is only one dose to try out and the doctor, news reports said, said for the lady to get it instead of him which is more than kind under the circumstances.

And while there's no absolute guarantee that they will survive just because they are in the U.S., those folks at the mall that I overheard were almost in a panic about this and discussing the possibilities that the virus could mutate and become airborne and then what, as there is no known cure for it. Right now it is believed to only be transmitted through bodily fluids. So, I think they have a real point there about the mutation factor and how it could ultimately affect the rest of the population at some point should anything go wrong. And one should also remember those vials or containers that the CDC let loose and then they were afraid of people contracting a disease. What can we ultimately do when even they sometimes get careless?

Second probe finds more safety lapses at CDC anthrax labs - The Washington Post

 

[theDoctorisIn]

"Pretty much guarantee?"

I can pretty much guarantee my house won't burn down.

But it might.

Tell us Doc, after the first case in March, how many would you have guaranteed would be dead in July?

almost 800...?

Your house burning down is statistically much more likely than you catching Ebola. By a number of orders of magnitude.

If it makes you happier to live in fear, go for it. The networks love you for it.

More people die each day from the flu than have ever died from Ebola.

I now understand you are a statistical expert.

What are the chances of an infected person entering the USA illegally?

One reason why the Ebola virus's spread is possible in theory is that it can take up to 21 days for an infected person to show symptoms. That's ample time for someone with Ebola to travel a long distance by plane and arrive in the United States or Europe, said Derek Gatherer, a researcher at Lancaster University in the United Kingdom who studies virus genetics and evolution. [5 Things You Should Know About Ebola]

But if an infected person arrived in the United States and showed symptoms, doctors would be quick to suspect Ebola based on the patient's travel history, and isolate the patient, Gatherer said.

"Western medical services would probably cope quite well with catching Ebola as it arrived, because we'd be aware of people coming from Ebola-affected areas," Gatherer said.​

Gatherer doesn't seem to understand that doctors do not examine everyone entering the USA.........

Wonder what other fundamental realities Researchers are ignorant about.


Could Ebola Spread to the United States?

I see that you're firmly invested in your fear. I don't really know what to tell you.

Your only hope is to become a bubble boy.

 

[Rikurzhen]

Just showed a short clip on Fox News about the infected doctor in biohazard suit being led by another in a suit into the hospital. What struck me about that video was how the escort's suit had a air tank system, but the infected doctor's didn't. So the precautionary measures for staff is to breathe their own safe air, but infected patients are breathing regular open air? And their exhalations are going into the enviroment? That doesn't sound like isolation to me.

I didn't see the clip but I believe that this may help answer your question.

Negative room pressure is an isolation technique used in hospitals and medical centres to prevent cross-contaminations from room to room.[1][2] It includes a ventilation system that generates negative pressure to allow air to flow into the isolation room but not escape from the room, as air will naturally flow from areas with higher pressure to areas with lower pressure, thereby preventing contaminated air from escaping the room. This technique is used to isolate patients with airborne contagious diseases such as tuberculosis, measles, or chickenpox.​

Physicians in the room still need to be isolated from the patient, hence their own air supply.

 

[Samson]

Your house burning down is statistically much more likely than you catching Ebola. By a number of orders of magnitude.

If it makes you happier to live in fear, go for it. The networks love you for it.

More people die each day from the flu than have ever died from Ebola.

I now understand you are a statistical expert.

What are the chances of an infected person entering the USA illegally?

One reason why the Ebola virus's spread is possible in theory is that it can take up to 21 days for an infected person to show symptoms. That's ample time for someone with Ebola to travel a long distance by plane and arrive in the United States or Europe, said Derek Gatherer, a researcher at Lancaster University in the United Kingdom who studies virus genetics and evolution. [5 Things You Should Know About Ebola]

But if an infected person arrived in the United States and showed symptoms, doctors would be quick to suspect Ebola based on the patient's travel history, and isolate the patient, Gatherer said.

"Western medical services would probably cope quite well with catching Ebola as it arrived, because we'd be aware of people coming from Ebola-affected areas," Gatherer said.​

Gatherer doesn't seem to understand that doctors do not examine everyone entering the USA.........

Wonder what other fundamental realities Researchers are ignorant about.


Could Ebola Spread to the United States?

I see that you're firmly invested in your fear. I don't really know what to tell you.

Your only hope is to become a bubble boy.

You'll need this outside the bubble:

 

[theDoctorisIn]

I now understand you are a statistical expert.

What are the chances of an infected person entering the USA illegally?

One reason why the Ebola virus's spread is possible in theory is that it can take up to 21 days for an infected person to show symptoms. That's ample time for someone with Ebola to travel a long distance by plane and arrive in the United States or Europe, said Derek Gatherer, a researcher at Lancaster University in the United Kingdom who studies virus genetics and evolution. [5 Things You Should Know About Ebola]

But if an infected person arrived in the United States and showed symptoms, doctors would be quick to suspect Ebola based on the patient's travel history, and isolate the patient, Gatherer said.

"Western medical services would probably cope quite well with catching Ebola as it arrived, because we'd be aware of people coming from Ebola-affected areas," Gatherer said.​

Gatherer doesn't seem to understand that doctors do not examine everyone entering the USA.........

Wonder what other fundamental realities Researchers are ignorant about.


Could Ebola Spread to the United States?

I see that you're firmly invested in your fear. I don't really know what to tell you.

Your only hope is to become a bubble boy.

You'll need this outside the bubble:

Actually, the bubble probably won't be good enough, since there's always a "chance" that the air pumps will stop working, and you'll die of oxygen depravation.

Guess you're still going to die.

 

[Samson]

I see that you're firmly invested in your fear. I don't really know what to tell you.

Your only hope is to become a bubble boy.

You'll need this outside the bubble:

Actually, the bubble probably won't be good enough, since there's always a "chance" that the air pumps will stop working, and you'll die of oxygen depravation.

Guess you're still going to die.

I suppose that's what they told the 700+ in West Africa.

 

[Samson]

I don't know if you meant that as sarcasm or you are speaking from genuine fear. I've recently heard talk around town from some people who are asking why they aren't placing barriers around the hospital and bringing in the National Guard and picketing his having been brought back to this country and pushing for him to be sent back to where he became infected or to be treated elsewhere. That kind of took me aback for a moment as I pondered what they were saying.

What do you all say to that? Was that a cruel way of them to be thinking or a more practical one?

The US government may have brought infected individuals into the USA to help them survive.

They may have brought them into the USA to better study the effects of the virus on human victims.

I lean toward the latter explaination.

Well it has been said that there were actually two people who contracted Ebola who were brought back into this country. The other person was a lady. But that there is only one dose to try out and the doctor, news reports said, said for the lady to get it instead of him which is more than kind under the circumstances.

And while there's no absolute guarantee that they will survive just because they are in the U.S., those folks at the mall that I overheard were almost in a panic about this and discussing the possibilities that the virus could mutate and become airborne and then what, as there is no known cure for it. Right now it is believed to only be transmitted through bodily fluids. So, I think they have a real point there about the mutation factor and how it could ultimately affect the rest of the population at some point should anything go wrong. And one should also remember those vials or containers that the CDC let loose and then they were afraid of people contracting a disease. What can we ultimately do when even they sometimes get careless?

Second probe finds more safety lapses at CDC anthrax labs - The Washington Post

Maybe we should just wait until an "undocumented immigrant" enters the USA with Ebola. Riding in a truckload of his buddies, who will spread across the USA. You think they'll go to a hospital with a headach? No, they will only seek medical care when these symptoms begin:

 

[theDoctorisIn]

How exactly does one drive in a truck from Africa?

 

[PoliticalTorch]

The US government may have brought infected individuals into the USA to help them survive.

They may have brought them into the USA to better study the effects of the virus on human victims.

I lean toward the latter explaination.

Well it has been said that there were actually two people who contracted Ebola who were brought back into this country. The other person was a lady. But that there is only one dose to try out and the doctor, news reports said, said for the lady to get it instead of him which is more than kind under the circumstances.

And while there's no absolute guarantee that they will survive just because they are in the U.S., those folks at the mall that I overheard were almost in a panic about this and discussing the possibilities that the virus could mutate and become airborne and then what, as there is no known cure for it. Right now it is believed to only be transmitted through bodily fluids. So, I think they have a real point there about the mutation factor and how it could ultimately affect the rest of the population at some point should anything go wrong. And one should also remember those vials or containers that the CDC let loose and then they were afraid of people contracting a disease. What can we ultimately do when even they sometimes get careless?

Second probe finds more safety lapses at CDC anthrax labs - The Washington Post

Maybe we should just wait until an "undocumented immigrant" enters the USA with Ebola. Riding in a truckload of his buddies, who will spread across the USA. You think they'll go to a hospital with a headach? No, they will only seek medical care when these symptoms begin:

Don't be naive! Your own picture shows that Ebola is still mainly confined to Africa except for those two brought recently into this country.

Here's additional very good information.

Plane leaves US to 'take American Ebola victims to Atlanta hospital' | Mail Online

 

[Samson]

How exactly does one drive in a truck from Africa?

Fly into Mexico, cross the border, jump in a truck

Simple.

Sadly, the medical community doesn't seem to get it.

 

[Samson]

Don't be naive! Your own picture shows that Ebola is still mainly confined to Africa except for those two brought recently into this country.

Here's additional very good information.

Plane leaves US to 'take American Ebola victims to Atlanta hospital' | Mail Online

Naive means thinking everyone enters the USA legally, after a medical check up.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Don't be naive! Your own picture shows that Ebola is still mainly confined to Africa except for those two brought recently into this country.

Here's additional very good information.

Plane leaves US to 'take American Ebola victims to Atlanta hospital' | Mail Online

Naive means thinking everyone enters the USA legally, after a medical check up.

It's "naive" to think there's no chance I could be hit by a drunk driver and killed on my way to the corner store.

It's stupid to live in fear of it, though.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

How exactly does one drive in a truck from Africa?

Fly into Mexico, cross the border, jump in a truck

Simple.

Sadly, the medical community doesn't seem to get it.

Could it be that the medical community does "get it", and thinks it's complete nonsense?

 

[Samson]

We are all going to die!

I don't know if you meant that as sarcasm or you are speaking from genuine fear. I've recently heard talk around town from some people who are asking why they aren't placing barriers around the hospital and bringing in the National Guard and picketing his having been brought back to this country and pushing for him to be sent back to where he became infected or to be treated elsewhere. That kind of took me aback for a moment as I pondered what they were saying.

What do you all say to that? Was that a cruel way of them to be thinking or a more practical one?

What should "take you aback" is Hemmoragic Rash that is a symptom of Ebola:

http://www.naijacenter.com/health-2/health-warning-lagos-issues-ebola-alert/

 

[Samson]

How exactly does one drive in a truck from Africa?

Fly into Mexico, cross the border, jump in a truck

Simple.

Sadly, the medical community doesn't seem to get it.

Could it be that the medical community does "get it", and thinks it's complete nonsense?

When a Ebola researcher believes it is unlikely that Ebola could enter the USA because doctors would "catch" the infected individuals in customs checks of people from Western Africa?




They live on another planet. Never heard of illegal entry into the USA! If their ignorance wasn't so dangerous it would be funny.

 

[alanbmx123]

Who has to approve this patient coming to the US. Seems to me this would have to have presidential approval. Why is this risk even being taken. After all the bull shit I read on here... This disease only exists in 3 countries half a world away. Why bring anyone here. All travel to these countries should be banned
How long to the bleading hearts will want the "children" brought here for treatment


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[Samson]

Don't be naive! Your own picture shows that Ebola is still mainly confined to Africa except for those two brought recently into this country.

Here's additional very good information.

Plane leaves US to 'take American Ebola victims to Atlanta hospital' | Mail Online

Naive means thinking everyone enters the USA legally, after a medical check up.

It's "naive" to think there's no chance I could be hit by a drunk driver and killed on my way to the corner store.

It's stupid to live in fear of it, though.

Is that what the Doctor that contracted the disease said too?

Perhaps he's changed his mind,

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Fly into Mexico, cross the border, jump in a truck

Simple.

Sadly, the medical community doesn't seem to get it.

Could it be that the medical community does "get it", and thinks it's complete nonsense?

When a Ebola researcher believes it is unlikely that Ebola could enter the USA because doctors would "catch" the infected individuals in customs checks of people from Western Africa?




They live on another planet. Never heard of illegal entry into the USA! If their ignorance wasn't so dangerous it would be funny.

The article you keep quoting says nothing about catching them at customs.

That researcher said that it would be unlikely to spread far because as soon as the symptoms arise, the doctors would identify it as Ebola due to travel history.

As has been pointed out many times already in this thread, Ebola doesn't spread very easily.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Naive means thinking everyone enters the USA legally, after a medical check up.

It's "naive" to think there's no chance I could be hit by a drunk driver and killed on my way to the corner store.

It's stupid to live in fear of it, though.

Is that what the Doctor that contracted the disease said too?

Perhaps he's changed his mind,

Seeing as how the Doctor involved went to Africa for the purpose of treating Ebola patients, I think it's pretty safe to say he knew the risks involved.

 

[PoliticalTorch]

Don't be naive! Your own picture shows that Ebola is still mainly confined to Africa except for those two brought recently into this country.

Here's additional very good information.

Plane leaves US to 'take American Ebola victims to Atlanta hospital' | Mail Online

Naive means thinking everyone enters the USA legally, after a medical check up.

It's "naive" to think there's no chance I could be hit by a drunk driver and killed on my way to the corner store.

It's stupid to live in fear of it, though.

Then you'd better get a megaphone and broadcast that message to all people in this country who are currently having fears about this matter and would prefer they not be here in this country.