RealDave
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I see you are doing some self reflection. Good for you.It is hard to deal with sycophants that twist history to make their points of ad hoc disingenuous rhetoric.....Dolt??? You have the nerve to call someone a dolt after posting this pile of crap?
There is no one pushing legalized infanticide. You are so stupid you could not understand what the Gov of Maryland said.
Then you took a sad situation for a family & lied about it accusing them of murder,.
You are one sick disgusting poor excuse for human being.
"There is no one pushing legalized infanticide.
So this is why you're known as RealDumb???
1. Obama voted for infanticide
Obama selected as his science adviser one who favored not just infantice....but slaughter months after birth.
2. The facts are that the major political party is actually a supporter of infanticide. On the other side of the aisle, Trump rails against this barbarism:
Trump “described what happens to a child after she is born alive following a failed abortion, saying, “The baby is born. The mother meets with the doctor, they take care of the baby, they wrap the baby beautifully, and then the doctor and the mother determine whether or not they will execute the baby. I don't think so. It's incredible.”
What Happens to a Child Born-alive? The Media Won’t Tell Us.
Hussein Obama supported infanticide...wouldn't vote to support the baby.
Obama named Peter Singer, champion of infanticide, as his 'science adviser.'
The Democrat administration in Virginia offered a law for...in favor of....infanticide....stopped by Republicans.
The Democrat governor of Virginia actually agreed with the bill for infanticide.
"New York abortion law changes allow infanticide"
New York abortion law changes allow infanticide
"Anti-infanticide bill blocked by Senate Democrats"
Senate Democrats block Republicans’ anti-infanticide bill
3. Here’s the context. One of the major selling points of the Left/Democrats is that no personal responsibility is ever required, up to an including taking responsibility for creating a new and unique human being. So, if one does, no prob: kill it and more on.
Somehow this is meant to resonate with women who make a ‘mistake,’ and want the right to eradicate it.
Almost 99 % of all abortions are for nothing more than convenience. And this is perfectly alright for the Left.
That's the reality.
4. There is no way to separate abortion from infanticide for this reason: what if a child is born as a result of an unsuccessful attempted abortion?
And, as several states now allow abortion up to the moment of birth,… “The state of New York recently passed a horrific new abortion law removing almost all previous restrictions. The law now allows abortions to be performed up to the point of natural birth by physicians and also by some non-physician health care practitioners. It also removes protections for babies who accidentally survive an abortion procedure.” New York abortion law changes allow infanticide
"7 states already allow abortion up to birth — not just New York"
7 states already allow abortion up to birth — not just New York
…..the result of what happens to that child is included here:
“The practice in some societies of killing unwanted children soon after birth.”
Infanticide | Definition of Infanticide by Lexico
There is no dancing around it. It is infanticide.
If abortion up until the last minute is sanctioned, there is no way to prevent it from becoming infanticide.
5. “…what happens to a baby when she survives an abortion attempt? Is she given medical care as any other patient would receive, or is she left to die?.... the abortion industry and the media have tiptoed around the basic question.
Trump’s statement was only recalling what Virginia [Democrat] Gov. Ralph Northam said: “I can tell you exactly what happens: If a mother is in labor…the infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and mother.”
6. So, according to [Democrat] Gov. Northam, whether a newborn gets the chance to live or not is a matter for “discussion.” Precious moments slip by as the infant is fighting for her life on the delivery table, but the mother and doctor are discussing whether or not she should live? At this point we are no longer talking about abortion or a woman’s body. We are talking about a child who has clearly become the patient.” What Happens to a Child Born-alive? The Media Won’t Tell Us.
This is the position of the Democrat Party:
"...whether a newborn gets the chance to live or not is a matter for “discussion.”
"...the infant is fighting for her life on the delivery table,..."
It's called infanticide. That's the reality.
"When secular leftists express frustration at how practicing Catholics (your humble servants) and evangelicals could ever vote for Donald Trump, the first thing they refuse to concede is the horror of the alternative.
They refuse to admit that Hillary Clinton clearly, forthrightly stood for abortion on demand, at any time, for any reason and even supported it having it funded by pro-life taxpayers.
It’s what she and her husband called “safe, legal and rare.” Hillary and her crew even dismissed the videotaped baby-organ-selling grotesqueries of Planned Parenthood as somehow fictional. And they refuse to admit that Hillary Clinton represented the creeping extremism of the LGBT movement, with its emphasis on redesigning all the nation’s bathrooms, not to mention human nature."
Bozell & Graham Column: The Book Against Transgender Extremism
It is a defining principle of Leftism that they can alter human nature.
Communist Revolution is based on the idea of transforming human nature. “The New Soviet man or New Soviet person as postulated by the ideologists of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, was an archetype of a person with certain qualities that were said to be emerging as dominant among all citizens of the Soviet Union, irrespective of the country's long-standing cultural, ethnic, and linguistic diversity, creating a single Soviet people, Soviet nation.[1]
New Soviet man - Wikipedia
Leon Trotsky wrote in his Literature and Revolution [2] :
"The human species, the sluggish Homo sapiens, will once again enter the stage of radical reconstruction and become in his own hands the object of the most complex methods of artificial selection and psychophysical training... Man will make it his goal...to create a higher sociobiological type, a superman, if you will"
New Soviet man - Wikipedia
In 1969, Hillary Rodham gave the student commencement address at Wellesley in which she said that “ for too long our leaders have used politics as the art of making what appears to be impossible, possible….We’re not interested in social reconstruction; it’s human reconstruction.”
-http://www.wellesley.edu/PublicAffairs/Commencement/1969/053169hillary.html
“Human nature is the one constant through human history. It is always there.”
--Thucydides
7. “What happens when the mother and doctor decide not to let the infant live?
Do they withhold care and let the infant die on its own or do they kill the infant? And how?
The media claims Trump’s comment is incorrect, but no one in the abortion industry will answer the question.” What Happens to a Child Born-alive? The Media Won’t Tell Us.
Democrat Governor Northam
“So in this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen,” he went on. “The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.”
Soooo......liar.....what are the possible outcomes of that 'discussion'????????
If the "the mother and the family desired," could the boy or girl be left to die???????
Would it be consistent with the Democrat infanticide law?????
You betcha' it would.
8. In a recent thread, one of the apologists for the slaughter of the unborn decided the death sentence was decided in the very same way an earlier Democrat Party decided on the humanity: location.
If the slave were in Mississippi, he had no rights up to and including life. But, if the same person were residing in Connecticut, bingo! Freedom, and the right to live.
It appears the same test is the basis for life and liberty of the prospective chid.
When asked “What is the argument for the "right" of a woman to authorize the killing of her unborn baby that would not apply to her authorizing the similar slaughter of a year old that she was breastfeeding?”
This Philistine answered:
“One is the contents of her body. The other isn't.” Dehumanization of the Left
The ‘magical’ birth canal imparts ‘life.’ Don’t make it to the finish line……death.
But what if the baby ‘accidentally’ makes it across that finish line?
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9.” In progressive Pennsylvania, here was a doctor, Kermit Gosnell, an African-American, he’s in his early 70s now, who ran an abortion clinic for 30 years, where he routinely, and these are not my words, this is the grand jury’s words, where he routinely delivered babies alive and then cut their necks with scissors.
And he did this for 30 years. That’s why in the eyes of the grand jury and also ABC’s Terry Moran, he was described as America’s biggest serial killer,…”
The True Story of Kermit Gosnell and His Victims
“…in the Kermit Gosnell trial (which received very little media attention), eye-witnesses testified that babies were moving and breathing before their spinal cords were cut; others were flushed in toilets or were thrown in the garbage with a shoebox for a coffin--while still alive inside!
The fact is, babies can survive abortion attempts.
The CDC tells us that, between 2003-2014, at least 143 infants died after being born alive during an abortion procedure, and the report even admits that this number is underestimated.
That’s an average of one infant a month! According to the report, some of these infants hung on to life for more than 24 hours after the induced abortion before they died!”
What Happens to a Child Born-alive? The Media Won’t Tell Us.
Is it murder?
America’s greatest serial killer, Dr. Kermit Gosnell.
“Philadelphia Abortion Doctor Guilty of Murder in Late-Term Procedures” Philadelphia Abortion Doctor Guilty of Murder in Late-Term Procedures
Convicted of first degree murder, and now, everything that Gosnell was convicted of is legal in NY….
....thanks to Democrats.
10. “When babies survive abortion, they will be either intentionally kept alive or intentionally put to death. There’s no in-between.….Congress needs to pass the Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act, which would add enforcement mechanisms to prosecute doctors who deny life-saving medical care to infants who survive abortion - putting an end to birth day abortions.” What Happens to a Child Born-alive? The Media Won’t Tell Us.
11. To prove that the Democrats are the assassins, the Republicans have a plan to make them reveal it:
"Sen. Ben Sasse (R-NE) introduced the Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act, which would provide medical care to babies born after botched abortions. Doctors would be required to provide medical care to a baby who survived an abortion, just as they would with any other patient. If doctors failed to provide care he or she would face criminal charges.
"I want to ask each and every one of my colleagues whether or not we're OK with infanticide," Sasse asked his colleagues.
But when the bill came to the Senate floor for a vote on Monday, Democrats filibustered."
Disgusting: Dems Prove, Once Again, They Support Infanticide With Their Latest Filibuster
Filibustered to defeat the proposal….exactly what the Democrats did to stop the attempts by the Republicans to get the vote for women (1919) and the same ploy the Democrats used to block every anti-lynching law (1920-1940).
"...all six Democrats running for president in 2020 voted against the bill. The list includes Sens. Cory Booker (NJ), Sherrod Brown (OH), Kirsten Gillibrand (NY), Kamala Harris (CA.), Amy Klobuchar (MN), and Elizabeth Warren (MA.). Independent Bernie Sanders (VT) also voted in line with Democrats." Ibid.
That bill in the IL Senate that you are talking about was just a ploy.
Babies were ALREADY PROTECTED under Illinois law.
QUIT YOUR FUCKING LYING.
I'll skip the rest of your lies.
Under number 11, if you were pregnant with a severely disabled without any chance of survival, you would force those parents & trheir infant child to go through efforts to keep that baby alive even though there is no hope. That is torture.
When this happens, to allow the baby to die in peace in their parents arms is the only thing to do.
You call those parents murderers.
That shows how ignorant you people really are.
To allow someone without any hope to survive to die is like pulling the plug on a patient on life support. You call that murder.
You are one sick, ignorant piece of shit.
"That bill in the IL Senate that you are talking about was just a ploy.
Babies were ALREADY PROTECTED under Illinois law."
Why would that prevent voting for it, you moron????
....but this excuse for voting against it avoids the fact that Congress regularly passes redundant bills….especially if there is a moral basis for same: last week the Congress unanimously passes an anti-lynching bill…..even though lynching is against the law throughout the country.
Yet the Democrats blocked- would not allow consideration of- a bill that would prevent the murder of innocent, defenseless babies.
There is no excuse.
Nor is there an excuse for your vulgarity every time I stuff your lies back down your throat.
Must be your upbringing, huh?
How about this:
Fuck you, Fuck your ignorance. Fuck your lies & fuck your pretend giving a shit about my language.
You voted for Donald Trump who says fuck, who grabs women by the pussy, assaults women, and is accused of raping a 14 year old girl. So don't you dare pretend to give a shit about my language.
