Driverless cars are coming.

[alang1216]

Technological advances always mean a loss of jobs for some.

But likely better/higher skilled jobs for the few.

 

[Disir]

GM plans to release cars with no steering wheel in 2019

It is inevitable.

And as long as they recognize the rules of the road we will all get along fine. The rules are as follows:

I am on the road; therefore, I own it.

Furthermore, it is imperative that I sit in the driver's seat so that I am there to utilize my mad reflexive right arm save skillz on my 6'3" son. If only to hear him say, "Mom, seriously? Do you really think I am moving?"

Nonetheless, it means that that the immigration problem has been resolved. It means that there will no longer be a need to drive down wages in other industries as there will be a large amount of people that will need work with truck drivers, bus drivers, and cab drivers out of work.

Technological advances always mean a loss of jobs for some.

Yes. There are times when it creates jobs as well. As it were, this isn't one of those times. So...........make lemonade.

 

[Moonglow]

Driverless cars are coming.

Then I can start drinking again...

 

[WinterBorn]

GM plans to release cars with no steering wheel in 2019

It is inevitable.

And as long as they recognize the rules of the road we will all get along fine. The rules are as follows:

I am on the road; therefore, I own it.

Furthermore, it is imperative that I sit in the driver's seat so that I am there to utilize my mad reflexive right arm save skillz on my 6'3" son. If only to hear him say, "Mom, seriously? Do you really think I am moving?"

Nonetheless, it means that that the immigration problem has been resolved. It means that there will no longer be a need to drive down wages in other industries as there will be a large amount of people that will need work with truck drivers, bus drivers, and cab drivers out of work.

Technological advances always mean a loss of jobs for some.

Yes. There are times when it creates jobs as well. As it were, this isn't one of those times. So...........make lemonade.

Progress should stop because of the loss of jobs?

 

[Disir]

GM plans to release cars with no steering wheel in 2019

It is inevitable.

And as long as they recognize the rules of the road we will all get along fine. The rules are as follows:

I am on the road; therefore, I own it.

Furthermore, it is imperative that I sit in the driver's seat so that I am there to utilize my mad reflexive right arm save skillz on my 6'3" son. If only to hear him say, "Mom, seriously? Do you really think I am moving?"

Nonetheless, it means that that the immigration problem has been resolved. It means that there will no longer be a need to drive down wages in other industries as there will be a large amount of people that will need work with truck drivers, bus drivers, and cab drivers out of work.

Technological advances always mean a loss of jobs for some.

Yes. There are times when it creates jobs as well. As it were, this isn't one of those times. So...........make lemonade.

Progress should stop because of the loss of jobs?

I didn't say that. I said that the immigration issue has been resolved.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I'll drive my own car, thanks.

I expect it to be required in another 15 to 20 years in some areas. Urban areas will be first. Probably followed by interstates in and around major cities, with all interstates being driverless sometime later.

Why would it ever be required?

Did they outlaw manual transmissions?

Did they outlaw manual steering?

That's pure speculation with zero evidence on your part!

 

[WinterBorn]

I'll drive my own car, thanks.

I expect it to be required in another 15 to 20 years in some areas. Urban areas will be first. Probably followed by interstates in and around major cities, with all interstates being driverless sometime later.

Why would it ever be required?

Did they outlaw manual transmissions?

Did they outlaw manual steering?

That's pure speculation with zero evidence on your part!

First it will be certain areas, to relieve parking issues. Next it will be a safety issue.

33k people died in 2014 in traffic accidents. The cost of traffic accidents runs into the billions every year.

 

[Disir]

And then we can have remote control race cars fer realz. It would make car races interesting with participation.

AND car insurance companies can get bent.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I'll drive my own car, thanks.

I expect it to be required in another 15 to 20 years in some areas. Urban areas will be first. Probably followed by interstates in and around major cities, with all interstates being driverless sometime later.

A fan of Steven Spielberg, are you? All this from governments that can't even fix the bridges or patch potholes before August?

No need to be a fan of science fiction. You simply have to look at the progress made in the last 10 years in the areas involved in a driverless car.

OK. Explain this. I had this situation the other day.

A cable truck is stopped in front of me on a rural road. There is no way to see around the truck to see if any traffic is coming from the other direction. How does the driverless car know how to get around it?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I'll drive my own car, thanks.

I expect it to be required in another 15 to 20 years in some areas. Urban areas will be first. Probably followed by interstates in and around major cities, with all interstates being driverless sometime later.

Why would it ever be required?

Did they outlaw manual transmissions?

Did they outlaw manual steering?

That's pure speculation with zero evidence on your part!

First it will be certain areas, to relieve parking issues. Next it will be a safety issue.

33k people died in 2014 in traffic accidents. The cost of traffic accidents runs into the billions every year.

Until we have a good idea how well these driverless cars work and how much they cost, how can you justify any of that?

It is a huge leap of faith. Will airlines start flying planes with no pilots at all?

 

[WinterBorn]

I'll drive my own car, thanks.

I expect it to be required in another 15 to 20 years in some areas. Urban areas will be first. Probably followed by interstates in and around major cities, with all interstates being driverless sometime later.

A fan of Steven Spielberg, are you? All this from governments that can't even fix the bridges or patch potholes before August?

No need to be a fan of science fiction. You simply have to look at the progress made in the last 10 years in the areas involved in a driverless car.

OK. Explain this. I had this situation the other day.

A cable truck is stopped in front of me on a rural road. There is no way to see around the truck to see if any traffic is coming from the other direction. How does the driverless car know how to get around it?

The Tesla has ultrasonic sensors that can detect objects beyond the car in front of you. Plus, since some the sensors are placed on the corners, at about the level of the trim, they will be able to see ahead farther than you will be able to see from inside the car.

And legally, if the cable truck is blocking the lane, a flagger is required.

 

[WinterBorn]

I'll drive my own car, thanks.

I expect it to be required in another 15 to 20 years in some areas. Urban areas will be first. Probably followed by interstates in and around major cities, with all interstates being driverless sometime later.

Why would it ever be required?

Did they outlaw manual transmissions?

Did they outlaw manual steering?

That's pure speculation with zero evidence on your part!

First it will be certain areas, to relieve parking issues. Next it will be a safety issue.

33k people died in 2014 in traffic accidents. The cost of traffic accidents runs into the billions every year.

Until we have a good idea how well these driverless cars work and how much they cost, how can you justify any of that?

It is a huge leap of faith. Will airlines start flying planes with no pilots at all?

It is not so much a leap of faith in technology, but a lack of faith in human drivers.

The overwhelming majority of car accidents can be directly blamed on the driver being under the influence, the driver being distracted, or the driver being exhausted.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I'll drive my own car, thanks.

I expect it to be required in another 15 to 20 years in some areas. Urban areas will be first. Probably followed by interstates in and around major cities, with all interstates being driverless sometime later.

A fan of Steven Spielberg, are you? All this from governments that can't even fix the bridges or patch potholes before August?

No need to be a fan of science fiction. You simply have to look at the progress made in the last 10 years in the areas involved in a driverless car.

OK. Explain this. I had this situation the other day.

A cable truck is stopped in front of me on a rural road. There is no way to see around the truck to see if any traffic is coming from the other direction. How does the driverless car know how to get around it?

The Tesla has ultrasonic sensors that can detect objects beyond the car in front of you. Plus, since some the sensors are placed on the corners, at about the level of the trim, they will be able to see ahead farther than you will be able to see from inside the car.

And legally, if the cable truck is blocking the lane, a flagger is required.

OK. You are flailing here. You are making crap up to fit your assertion. You must have gone to school at Bama.

Ultrasonic sensors that can see around a vehicle and detect if another car is coming? Tesla? How many hundred thousand dollars will these cars cost?

The truck was stopped. How is it going to have a flagger with one man in the truck? It could be a garbage truck for that matter. Do these sensors recognize hand signals? If there is no flagger, will the car issue the truck driver a written citation?

How many airlines now operate aircraft without pilots? I am pretty sure the autopilot technology is far more advanced than the driverless car. If it is so safe, and we can do it, why don't we?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I'll drive my own car, thanks.

I expect it to be required in another 15 to 20 years in some areas. Urban areas will be first. Probably followed by interstates in and around major cities, with all interstates being driverless sometime later.

Why would it ever be required?

Did they outlaw manual transmissions?

Did they outlaw manual steering?

That's pure speculation with zero evidence on your part!

First it will be certain areas, to relieve parking issues. Next it will be a safety issue.

33k people died in 2014 in traffic accidents. The cost of traffic accidents runs into the billions every year.

Until we have a good idea how well these driverless cars work and how much they cost, how can you justify any of that?

It is a huge leap of faith. Will airlines start flying planes with no pilots at all?

It is not so much a leap of faith in technology, but a lack of faith in human drivers.

The overwhelming majority of car accidents can be directly blamed on the driver being under the influence, the driver being distracted, or the driver being exhausted.

Every time one of the cars screws up, the insurance company will not be suing another driver, but the automobile manufacturer for whatever defect caused the accident.

Tesla
When the magic wears off Joshua Brown, 40, was killed driving a Tesla Model S on June 30, 2016 when the self-driving car rammed into a 18-wheel truck in Florida. The car, which used a computer vision-based vehicle detection, crashed into the truck trying to drive full speed under the trailer. Brown was reportedly watching a Harry Potter movie at the time of the collision.

Read more at:
//economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/56510821.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

 

[WinterBorn]

I expect it to be required in another 15 to 20 years in some areas. Urban areas will be first. Probably followed by interstates in and around major cities, with all interstates being driverless sometime later.

A fan of Steven Spielberg, are you? All this from governments that can't even fix the bridges or patch potholes before August?

No need to be a fan of science fiction. You simply have to look at the progress made in the last 10 years in the areas involved in a driverless car.

OK. Explain this. I had this situation the other day.

A cable truck is stopped in front of me on a rural road. There is no way to see around the truck to see if any traffic is coming from the other direction. How does the driverless car know how to get around it?

The Tesla has ultrasonic sensors that can detect objects beyond the car in front of you. Plus, since some the sensors are placed on the corners, at about the level of the trim, they will be able to see ahead farther than you will be able to see from inside the car.

And legally, if the cable truck is blocking the lane, a flagger is required.

OK. You are flailing here. You are making crap up to fit your assertion. You must have gone to school at Bama.

Ultrasonic sensors that can see around a vehicle and detect if another car is coming? Tesla? How many hundred thousand dollars will these cars cost?

The truck was stopped. How is it going to have a flagger with one man in the truck? It could be a garbage truck for that matter. Do these sensors recognize hand signals? If there is no flagger, will the car issue the truck driver a written citation?

How many airlines now operate aircraft without pilots? I am pretty sure the autopilot technology is far more advanced than the driverless car. If it is so safe, and we can do it, why don't we?

If it was only one person and they needed a flagger, they wait until they get a flagger out there. The tesla can read speed limit signs. I'm sure it could manage a Stop/Slow paddle. Which is, by the way, required in all 50 states except in an emergency.

 

[WinterBorn]

I expect it to be required in another 15 to 20 years in some areas. Urban areas will be first. Probably followed by interstates in and around major cities, with all interstates being driverless sometime later.

Why would it ever be required?

Did they outlaw manual transmissions?

Did they outlaw manual steering?

That's pure speculation with zero evidence on your part!

First it will be certain areas, to relieve parking issues. Next it will be a safety issue.

33k people died in 2014 in traffic accidents. The cost of traffic accidents runs into the billions every year.

Until we have a good idea how well these driverless cars work and how much they cost, how can you justify any of that?

It is a huge leap of faith. Will airlines start flying planes with no pilots at all?

It is not so much a leap of faith in technology, but a lack of faith in human drivers.

The overwhelming majority of car accidents can be directly blamed on the driver being under the influence, the driver being distracted, or the driver being exhausted.

Every time one of the cars screws up, the insurance company will not be suing another driver, but the automobile manufacturer for whatever defect caused the accident.

Tesla
When the magic wears off Joshua Brown, 40, was killed driving a Tesla Model S on June 30, 2016 when the self-driving car rammed into a 18-wheel truck in Florida. The car, which used a computer vision-based vehicle detection, crashed into the truck trying to drive full speed under the trailer. Brown was reportedly watching a Harry Potter movie at the time of the collision.

Read more at:
//economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/56510821.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

And the car tried 5 times to notify the driver that the visibility was impaired. (by glare) After that the ultrasonic sensors were added.

But if the machine notifies the operator that some thing is wrong, the person should respond. If the machine notifies the driver, and is ignored 5 times, it is not the fault of the machine.

 

[IsaacNewton]

Too many variables with driving. This whole no driver car movement will run into growing fatal crashes and the whole thing will be stopped for another 20 years. Software cannot be written yet that even comes close to the reaction a human brain can muster. Tens of thousands of people die on the roads now with humans who's brains can take into account a myriad of variables that cannot be duplicated by a computer or sensor. Cars are going to fast within just feet of each other. Aircraft already mostly run without a pilot, on autopilot using GPS. But 99% of the time they require a pilot to land and take off. And there is huge separatioin between aircraft to be sure they don't collide.

 

[OnePercenter]

GM plans to release cars with no steering wheel in 2019

It is inevitable.

Truck driver at fault in Las Vegas driverless shuttle crash, say police

The autonomous vehicle didn't sound a horn, back-up, or move around the backing truck which is what you or I would have done. Until artificial intelligence is accomplished, autonomous vehicles won't be possible. Period.

 

[WinterBorn]

GM plans to release cars with no steering wheel in 2019

It is inevitable.

Truck driver at fault in Las Vegas driverless shuttle crash, say police

The autonomous vehicle didn't sound a horn, back-up, or move around the backing truck which is what you or I would have done. Until artificial intelligence is accomplished, autonomous vehicles won't be possible. Period.

The truck backed into a stationary vehicle. That has nothing to do with anything except the incompetence of the truck driver.

 

[Old Rocks]

I'll drive my own car, thanks.

I expect it to be required in another 15 to 20 years in some areas. Urban areas will be first. Probably followed by interstates in and around major cities, with all interstates being driverless sometime later.

A fan of Steven Spielberg, are you? All this from governments that can't even fix the bridges or patch potholes before August?

No need to be a fan of science fiction. You simply have to look at the progress made in the last 10 years in the areas involved in a driverless car.

OK. Explain this. I had this situation the other day.

A cable truck is stopped in front of me on a rural road. There is no way to see around the truck to see if any traffic is coming from the other direction. How does the driverless car know how to get around it?

You are being funny, correct? In a world where each vehicle has a transmitter, the computer knows where every vehicle is, therefore, it does not matter what you see, it knows the position of all the vehicles on the road, and drives your car around the cable car when it is safe to do so.