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[OldFlame]

Yes for the most part, but I agree with what Mister Beale said. And believe me when I say this, being even slightly critical or questioning dearly beloved folks like Trump or Elon tends to make one a persona non-grata around here.

They've done nothing questionable, yet. You want to convict them before they even have a chance to do anything, that speaks to TDS not objective criticism. You've never liked Trump.

 

[Oddball]

They've done nothing questionable, yet. You want to convict them before they even have a chance to do anything, that speaks to TDS not objective criticism. You've never liked Trump.

Wanting to put a microchip in your brain isn't questionable?...Really?

 

[Dante]

Disturbing Questions About the New Orleans and Cyber Truck Attacks

Was it just a coincidence that 2025 started with "ISIS" attacking New Orleans and blowing up a Tesla Cybertruck outside a Trump hotel? The message is clear, but who is sending it?

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cuckoo alert!

 

[eagle1462010]

The country underwent a revolution, Iran was being used by a despot on the CIA payroll much like Cuba before it's revolution. Revolutions happen when foreign powers try to manipulate countries, every American here should know that, we had one once.

Putting the Head Choppers in power.

Iran was better off with the Shah

 

[Oddball]

Putting the Head Choppers in power.

Iran was better off with the Shah

Yes they were....That doesn't change the fact that he was in power only because of the original sin of CIA fuckery.

 

[mudwhistle]

 

[OldFlame]

Wanting to put a microchip in your brain isn't questionable?...Really?

By force or voluntarily? I haven't heard of Musk advocating force for any of it. If people are stupid enough to do so, just like with the covid shot, more power to them.

 

[eagle1462010]

Yes they were....That doesn't change the fact that he was in power only because of the original sin of CIA fuckery

In the 50s. Yes, and so was Russia. Cold War.

But it was Night and Day better than now. The Shah kept the Head Choppers in check and the people were better off.

 

[MisterBeale]

You can be suspicious of all of them if you want to, what's that going to accomplish? Absolutely nothing.

Actions speak louder than words, at least wait until actions are telling the story before we jump to conspiracy.

I just don't agree.

You see, the political legitimacy of a democratic/republic? That depends entirely on how many people vote. It DOES NOT depend on who the people actually vote FOR.



.. . . if all the DNC/Kamala supporters vote, it means they still believe in the legitimacy of state controlled/interlocking directorate media, and thus, accede to the will of those who run and rule, regardless of their politics.



OTH? When a republic/democracy has more folks who abstain from voting, jury duty, taxes, etc., it means that the deep state and bureaucracy no longer have political legitimacy.


That greatest threat to the establishment, regardless of who runs or wins, is that the PEOPLE don't believe it matters anymore.


"More than 89 million voting eligible Americans didn’t vote in the 2024 elections, according to the latest tallies collected by the University of Florida’s Election Lab.

That accounts for more than 36.4% of the U.S. total electorate of 244.7 million people (voters and nonvoters).

There are still some votes being counted in California and Arizona. . . "

<snip>

". . . That accounts for just over 50% of the popular vote. But if nonvoters are included Trump got 31% of the electorate (voting and nonvoting).

Harris, the sitting U.S. vice president, has received close to 72.9 million votes, as of Thursday’s counts.
That is more than 16.2 million fewer votes than the number of non-voters. As it stands, Harris got 29.7% of the total U.S. electorate.. . . "

Voter turnout: 13M more nonvoters than Trump backers; Harris got 10% fewer votes than Biden

More than 89 million voting eligible Americans didn’t vote in the 2024 elections, according to the latest tallies collected by the University of Florida’s Election Lab. That accounts for more than 36.4% of the U.S. total electorate of 244.7 million people (voters and nonvoters).

www.bozemandailychronicle.com

Democracy - Legitimacy, Representation, Participation | Britannica

Democracy - Legitimacy, Representation, Participation: According to Locke, in the hypothetical “state of nature” that precedes the creation of human societies, men live “equal one amongst another without subordination or subjection,” and they are perfectly free to act and to dispose of their...

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At what point do we admit, that our leaders do not represent us?

 

[skye]

 

[buttercup]

They've done nothing questionable, yet.

There are no words to express how shocking it is to me that anyone could say that with a straight face. I mean seriously, I feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone when I come here sometimes, it's as if people are living in a cave and never hear anything outside of USMB threads.

I'm sure it will piss a lot of people off, but you've almost inspired me to make a video on this topic. (I've done that before, with other politicians.) It's not something I particularly want to do, but I almost feel like I have to, especially after reading comments like yours.

 

[MisterBeale]

cuckoo alert!

 

[MisterBeale]

There are no words to express how shocking it is to me that anyone could say that with a straight face. I mean seriously, I feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone when I come here sometimes, it's as if people are living in a cave and never hear anything outside of USMB threads.

I'm sure it will piss a lot of people off, but you've almost inspired me to make a video on this topic. (I've done that before, with other politicians.) It's not something I particularly want to do, but I almost feel like I have to, especially after reading comments like yours.

Agreed.

 

[OldFlame]

I just don't agree.

You see, the political legitimacy of a democratic/republic? That depends entirely on how many people vote. It DOES NOT depend on who the people actually vote FOR.



.. . . if all the DNC/Kamala supporters vote, it means they still believe in the legitimacy of state controlled/interlocking directorate media, and thus, accede to the will of those who run and rule, regardless of their politics.



OTH? When a republic/democracy has more folks who abstain from voting, jury duty, taxes, etc., it means that the deep state and bureaucracy no longer have political legitimacy.


That greatest threat to the establishment, regardless of who runs or wins, is that the PEOPLE don't believe it matters anymore.


"More than 89 million voting eligible Americans didn’t vote in the 2024 elections, according to the latest tallies collected by the University of Florida’s Election Lab.

That accounts for more than 36.4% of the U.S. total electorate of 244.7 million people (voters and nonvoters).

There are still some votes being counted in California and Arizona. . . "

<snip>

". . . That accounts for just over 50% of the popular vote. But if nonvoters are included Trump got 31% of the electorate (voting and nonvoting).

Harris, the sitting U.S. vice president, has received close to 72.9 million votes, as of Thursday’s counts.
That is more than 16.2 million fewer votes than the number of non-voters. As it stands, Harris got 29.7% of the total U.S. electorate.. . . "

Voter turnout: 13M more nonvoters than Trump backers; Harris got 10% fewer votes than Biden

More than 89 million voting eligible Americans didn’t vote in the 2024 elections, according to the latest tallies collected by the University of Florida’s Election Lab. That accounts for more than 36.4% of the U.S. total electorate of 244.7 million people (voters and nonvoters).

www.bozemandailychronicle.com

Democracy - Legitimacy, Representation, Participation | Britannica

Democracy - Legitimacy, Representation, Participation: According to Locke, in the hypothetical “state of nature” that precedes the creation of human societies, men live “equal one amongst another without subordination or subjection,” and they are perfectly free to act and to dispose of their...

www.britannica.com

At what point do we admit, that our leaders do not represent us?

Well I disagree with your conclusions to some extent, I don't think people abstain from voting because they don't approve, I think a vast majority of them are just lazy, or fine with the status quo. They just won't give a damn until they are personally affected, they won't change until when or if that happens. So I don't think it's necessarily a statement of any kind, and really if it is, then what's the point, you're not changing anything by not voting, and the authority in charge sure doesn't give a damn either. Even if they believe that they no longer have 'political legitimacy', it's not going to stop them, they've shown that time and time again. Plus they have a 'media' that protects them as well. I just don't get the beating on Trump and/or the Musk involvement until there is something to harp about, until then it's only conjecture and conspiracy.

 

[OldFlame]

There are no words to express how shocking it is to me that anyone could say that with a straight face. I mean seriously, I feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone when I come here sometimes, it's as if people are living in a cave and never hear anything outside of USMB threads.

I'm sure it will piss a lot of people off, but you've almost inspired me to make a video on this topic. (I've done that before, with other politicians.) It's not something I particularly want to do, but I almost feel like I have to, especially after reading comments like yours.

Let's hear it then, post your list. You never put your money where your mouth is, it's always generalities and platitudes.

I mean, you're getting your info from somewhere and believing it, how do you know it's 'truth'? So link your sources as well, thanks.

 

[MisterBeale]

I just don't get the beating on Trump and/or the Musk involvement until there is something to harp about, until then it's only conjecture and conspiracy.

I already posted that information in post #1,193

 

[Picaro]

How many times did Orientals ( Asians ) and Islamists invade Europe over the Centuries

Lots, of course, but these gimps don't know any history, and real facts don't fit their fake narratives so they will never bother to learn any.

 

[WEATHER53]

Instead of media soft soaping and calling him a former veteran (that helps media blame the the USA) lets address what he recently IS which is a dead Muslim terrorist(too much truth there for media)

 

[Deadstick]

So? Soleimani wasn't an Iraqi either, he was Iranian.

Yes he had been invited to a meeting with the Iraqis when he was murdered.

 

[skye]

What do you expect?

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