Both are examples of bigotry. They are different forms of bigotry, but still bigotry...a desire to discriminate against a group of people.
Sometimes the language takes easily similar forms, however...
Same-sex or “inter-racial” marriage? Take the quiz.
desire? I see. thats uhm , pretty messed up.
so, to be clear as I have asked this several times and have received what appears to be the same answer 3(?) times- if one is against or don't believe in racial inter marriage they are a bigot, if they are against or don't believe in gay marriage, they are a bigot......? Period?
There’s no such thing as ‘gay marriage,’ there’s only marriage law as written by a given state, so not believing in it makes sense. Same-sex couples marry in accordance with the same law as do opposite-sex couples. That’s also why acknowledging same-sex couples’ equal protection rights in no way ‘redefines’ marriage, as the law remains exactly the same.
The Equal Protection Clause requires the states to allow all persons access to a given state’s laws, including same-sex couples access to marriage law.
One might disagree with how the Equal Protection Clause is interpreted, but that won’t work because there’s no rational basis to justify rejecting 14th Amendment jurisprudence. Indeed, the courts have held that opposition to same-sex couples accessing marriage law is predicated solely on animus towards homosexuals, failing to realize a legitimate legislative end.
Given there’s no rational, objective reason to oppose same-sex couples access to marriage law, it’s difficult to come to any other conclusion than that of being motivated by bigotry.
Thank you Clayton, thats well stated I think and exactly what I was looking for.
I never had issue with gay rights- enforcing DNR's, insurance claims, wills, taxes, the whole kaboddle, thats why I started italicizing marriage and started mentioning rights, to me, theres a difference. And that is why I kept asking for a clarification and demonstration as to how racial components as in mixed marriages mattered in this context, I believe there is bigotry if opposed, I believe there is bigotry if one is opposed to gay rights, but marriage? I don't think so.
'Marriage'? Thats a bridge to far me right now, I would if I had my druthers rather it be 'Unions' or 'A Union'...I have an affinity for the traditionalist word/term 'Marriage'....everything I have read of it, related too, took part in, watched, evolution, biology, and though a heavily lapsed roman catholic I guess theres some religious apprehension too, not a lot but I have to account for it being part of me, ( and no I don't think its a 'sin'), I see matrimony as in 'Marriage', a procreational bond and commitment with all that follows as its strongest and best definition, that is if I were to define it.
I already thanked someone soon there after on this thread ( or the other on this) for stating that the court got it right, they did.
They got both parts right, the Cali. gov. did not defend prop 8, thats their job and though I think that their job is not to pick and choose what laws they defend, there was no legal standing brought that the court should recognize and, though it means that gay 'marriage' goes forward *shrugs* thats the vagaries of the law, and, the last word. Life will go on.
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As a general question for anyone, is my feeling on Marriage a bigoted stance?