Donald Trump to kick transgender troops out of US military

[Seymour Flops]

I have always had my own insurance. I am responsible for myself , it would be nice if all people were.

Twenty years ago, you could have said that, and I would have no way to disprove it. But now, with Obamacare, all are forced to pay for the mental illnesses of others. You can get a sex change, presumably to change back and forth as often as a for-profit doctor says you have a medical need for it. You can go to rehab for meth addiction, dry-out for alcohol addiction, therapy for sex addiction, and any other mental illnesses that I don't have to worry about, other than to pay for your treatment in jacked up premiums.

So, you don't pay your own way, and Obamacare makes other people's sexual orientation and gender delusions my business, because I pay for it.

But we're only human. Long held beliefs are hard to break , good luck ending your bigotry. . Sorry you feel put out by other people trying to exist in a world where they are constantly under attack by people like you.

Like your long-held belief that other people's labor should pay for your leisurely treatment of mental defects?

 

[Stann]

There is no “ Far Right “ in the Elected Political Landscape in America anymore ( The last one was George Wallace ( D)

trump is no Conservative. He's about as far-right as you can get , even has talked about doing away with the Constitution. Jan 6th. was no accident , it was an orchestrated attempt to throw the law.

 

[Stann]

Twenty years ago, you could have said that, and I would have no way to disprove it. But now, with Obamacare, all are forced to pay for the mental illnesses of others. You can get a sex change, presumably to change back and forth as often as a for-profit doctor says you have a medical need for it. You can go to rehab for meth addiction, dry-out for alcohol addiction, therapy for sex addiction, and any other mental illnesses that I don't have to worry about, other than to pay for your treatment in jacked up premiums.

So, you don't pay your own way, and Obamacare makes other people's sexual orientation and gender delusions my business, because I pay for it.

Like your long-held belief that other people's labor should pay for your leisurely treatment of mental defects?

You are attempting to deny people of what they believe they need.woupd you deny alcoholics treatment for the cirrhosis. How about smoking , totally self destructive. Let's deny them treatment for the Cancer ,one on three of them will develop. Peoples needs are different
No one should judge another's need unless it is a criminal choice.

 

[Seymour Flops]

You are attempting to deny people of what they believe they need.woupd you deny alcoholics treatment for the cirrhosis. How about smoking , totally self destructive. Let's deny them treatment for the Cancer ,one on three of them will develop. Peoples needs are different
No one should judge another's need unless it is a criminal choice.

Not wanting to pay for something =/= denying it.

I think it is very self-destructive to go through "gender affirming" treatment, but if an adult wants to do that, I wouldn't stop them. Just don't ask me to pay for it.

I have the same opinion of cigarettes. You know that life insurance companies charge more for smokers, since they are commiting slow-motion suicide. Is that also a "wrong" that should be righted by me having to pay for their foolishness?

Ever notice that nearly all "social justice" ideas turn out to be another way for normal people to pay for the fringe elements, who cannot earn their own way due to their neuroses and worse mental illness?

 

[Couchpotato]

The Army is definitely a different story. You wouldn't imagine some of the awful teeth I saw when I was in.



Not sure what your point is here, guy. It's an 8 week recovery time.

It's 8 weeks before a person can even go back to work not go through a workup and deployment you Muppet. Do you really think they can chop off someone's dick, burrow a hole in their abdominal cavity and they will be ready to hop on a flight and hook and jab with the enemy?

How much data do they have to work with? The fact is, 15,000 transgenders are currently serving, and we just don't hear that much about the issues.

Ask the Army not me they ran the study. Why do you think you would know if there were an issue? Who's going to tell you?

 

[Stann]

Not wanting to pay for something =/= denying it.

I think it is very self-destructive to go through "gender affirming" treatment, but if an adult wants to do that, I wouldn't stop them. Just don't ask me to pay for it.

I have the same opinion of cigarettes. You know that life insurance companies charge more for smokers, since they are commiting slow-motion suicide. Is that also a "wrong" that should be righted by me having to pay for their foolishness?

Ever notice that nearly all "social justice" ideas turn out to be another way for normal people to pay for the fringe elements, who cannot earn their own way due to their neuroses and worse mental illness?

I just can't be that selfish. End of story.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

I'm only gonna say this once. I don't let insects talk that way to me.

We are all insects in the context of the vast cosmos. The difference between you and I is that this insect is more evolved has critical thinking skills, emotional intelligence the gift ( or curse) of self awareness,

 

[Stann]

Do you really think they can chop off someone's dick, burrow a hole in their abdominal cavity and they will be ready to hop on a flight and hook and jab with the enemy?

Any surgery would have to be approved. It is easy to accrue sick time in the military and they are generous with it. A friend of mine got paid for 3 months off before he got out of the service. No one would schedule an elective surgery without lots of planning. No one enters this lightly. FYI , the penis is not cut off. The vascular bundle ( corpus cavernosum ) which allows a man to get hard is removed and the penis is turned inside out and shoved back up into that space. Also thought you'd like to know all people start out as female. From fertilization to about 6 weeks the fetus is female. If the fetus receives a dose of testosterone it will never a male. The ingrowing vagina simply pushes out. So pushing it back in isn't that big a deal. I still wouldn't care to do it.

 

[Couchpotato]

Any surgery would have to be approved. It is easy to accrue sick time in the military and they are generous with it. A friend of mine got paid for 3 months off before he got out of the service. No one would schedule an elective surgery without lots of planning. No one enters this lightly. FYI , the penis is not cut off. The vascular bundle ( corpus cavernosum ) which allows a man to get hard is removed and the penis is turned inside out and shoved back up into that space. Also thought you'd like to know all people start out as female. From fertilization to about 6 weeks the fetus is female. If the fetus receives a dose of testosterone it will never a male. The ingrowing vagina simply pushes out. So pushing it back in isn't that big a deal. I still wouldn't care to do it.

There’s no such thing as accruing sick time in the military. Your friend took PTAD and terminal leave.

 

[Stann]

There’s no such thing as accruing sick time in the military. Your friend took PTAD and terminal leave.

You are mistaken. Accrual rates: All full-time employees , regardless of their length of service , earn 4 hours of sick leave for each full biweekly pay period.

 

[Seymour Flops]

You are mistaken. Accrual rates: All full-time employees , regardless of their length of service , earn 4 hours of sick leave for each full biweekly pay period.

Couchpotato it’s like debating a child about how marriage works,isn’t it?

 

[Couchpotato]

You are mistaken. Accrual rates: All full-time employees , regardless of their length of service , earn 4 hours of sick leave for each full biweekly pay period

I was a Marine for over 23 years. My wife was a Marine for 20 my brother was a Marine for 22 years. I’ve forgotten more about how the military works than you’ve ever known. So when I tell you there’s no such thing as accrued sick time you should believe me.

 

[Couchpotato]

Couchpotato it’s like debating a child about how marriage works,isn’t it?

Truth

 

[Stann]

I was a Marine for over 23 years. My wife was a Marine for 20 my brother was a Marine for 22 years. I’ve forgotten more about how the military works than you’ve ever known. So when I tell you there’s no such thing as accrued sick time you should believe me.

Ok have it your way if you like. But it is accrued wether you realize it or not.

 

[Couchpotato]

Ok have it your way if you like. But it is accrued wether you realize it or not.

Link the regulation that states that.

 

[Stann]

Link the regulation that states that.

If you never took sick leave you lost out on being paid for over 1,920 hours ( 20 years accrued ). Don't know the regulation , don't care. Been out for over 50 years now. That was another life.

 

[Couchpotato]

If you never took sick leave you lost out on being paid for 1,920 hours. Don't know the regulation , don't care. Been out for over 50 years now. That was another life.

Still waiting on that link.

 

[Stann]

Still waiting on that link.

You're going to have a little no wait , can't post links on this phone. Some times I can't even access this site. Try regulation 40-2. FLW if that means anything Army info.

 

[daveman]

Obviously they've been deployed and have risked their lives like any other good soldier. You are scum for attempting to disparage them. You probably never served and if you did it most likely made the military sorry they ever recruited you. Bigotry and hate do not help military readiness. Giving in to the fears of idiots doesn't help either.

Have you worn the uniform?

 

[Stann]

Have you worn the uniform?

Now there's " the uniform " , I enlisted in the Air Force ( not drafted , didn't avoid the draft like trump did ) over 50 years ago during the Vietnam War.