Donald Trump to kick transgender troops out of US military

[Stann]

HAHAHA. Trannies aren't willing to risk their lives for america, you fool. They joined to get the free drugs and medical care they need to live their sick lives. THINK

Obviously they've been deployed and have risked their lives like any other good soldier. You are scum for attempting to disparage them. You probably never served and if you did it most likely made the military sorry they ever recruited you. Bigotry and hate do not help military readiness. Giving in to the fears of idiots doesn't help either.

 

[Pappadave1]

People were saying the exact same thing about blacks in the military, about asians in the military, about hispanics in military, etc. All these views have ended up in the dumpster fire of history.

There's a VAST difference between being black, Asian or Hispanic and wanting to wear a dress and prance around like a fairy.

 

[scruffy]

There's a VAST difference between being black, Asian or Hispanic and wanting to wear a dress and prance around like a fairy.

Yes. Culture and mental illness are two different things.

 

[krichton]

As well they should. However, blacks, Asians, and Hispanics don't need multiple expensive surgeries and life-long medical care to be blacks, Asians, and Hispanics.

Most trans do not have sex change operations, aside from getting breasts or having them removed. They do get constant hormone therapy though. Why would any of this matter if they're willing to serve and they are qualified?

 

[OKTexas]

This trans stuff has really got you people worked up.

Exactly why would anyone support a man entering the military and making themselves less physically capable at taxpayers expense. It's pretty obvious people like you have never served.

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[OKTexas]

You should consider how your own gender issues and insecurities are causing you to be so irrationally hostile to your fellow human beings

There's nothing irrational about want the most capable military possible. They're free to be what ever they want as a civilian and on their own dime.

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[OKTexas]

Surely you can not be defending this poor woman's performance. Trump survived because he turned his head at a crucial moment.

And if the officers and SS were doing their jobs he would have never gotten that close with a weapon, much less on top of that building. Someone screwed up big time.

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[OKTexas]

The military can't meet it's staffing goals now.

Not sure how throwing out 15,000 people with good service records is going to help all that much.

There's an easy fix for that, reinstate the service members xiden kicked out for refusing the clot shot, if we can get them to come back.

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[OKTexas]

This trend will only increase , generation X is the first generation which identify as less than 50% straight. That is the future.

So your saying the indoctrination works. Is that why a school system in NY is moving it into kindergarten?

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[OKTexas]

Correct , anyone with severe problems , especially bigotry , are not wanted or needed in the military. They just cause problems for everyone else. Go back to living with your parents. They'll protect you from the world , that explains how you got there in the first place.

You've never served, have ya commie? You obviously are clueless how military units work. Individualism is not what it's about.

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[para bellum]

Appears that the "unnamed sources" were getting out over their skis again...

"President-elect Donald Trump's transition team has dismissed a report that he plans to remove all transgender people from serving in the U.S. military.

U.K. newspaper The Times reported on Monday, citing unnamed defense sources, that Trump was considering an executive order that would lead to around 15,000 active transgender service members being medically discharged. The order would also ban transgender people from joining the military.

During Trump's first term, he prevented trans people from joining the military, but allowed those already serving to continue.

Trump's transition team denied that any decisions on the issue had been made. Spokeswoman Karoline Leavitt told Newsweek that the unnamed sources "are speculating and have no idea what they are actually talking about."

"No decisions on this issue have been made. No policy should ever be deemed official unless it comes directly from President Trump or his authorized spokespeople," she said."

Donald Trump's team dismisses transgender military ban plan

Republican transition team has said that "no decisions" regarding a reported transgender military ban have been made.

www.newsweek.com

 

[JoeB131]

What happens is irrelevant. It would be against regulations to deploy someone who you couldn't provide medical care that has been deemed necessary. You cant deploy with your wisdom teeth because wisdom teeth are more prone to cavities than your other teeth and you might not have access to a dentist. I've been on deployments where I didn't shower for a month let alone see a doctor and get meds for anything.

I was in for 11 years. The only time my teeth became an issue is when I applied for the Naval Academy in HS. THe active Army never cared about my teeth. (And I hated seeing the dentist, so my teeth were not in great shape when I got out. Fortunately, my civilian Dentist has kept me on the straight and narrow and I still have most of my teeth, including some of the wisdom teeth.)

The other issue is math. The typical contract for a first termer is 4 years, some of them are 5 for the MOS's with longer training pipelines but typically they are 4 years. Bootcamp, AIT, etc is 3-4 months, then leave and your MOS school it's almost a year before you get to your first unit. The recovery time from sex reassignment surgery is essentially a year. That doesn't count the lead up therapy, prep and all the things that I'm sure you have to go through to get this surgery. Just day of surgery, to day you're back to full duty. Lets just say it's 18 months soup to nuts. Fair? So basically, between your initial training and the surgery the military knew it was going to provide you when you signed up you've eaten up more than half your contract. Typical work up for a deployment is about 6 months and the deployment is 6 months. Unless everything is timed up just right that soldier isn't going on a deployment. So even if they could get them their meds, and therapy while on deployment the chances are they aren't going, but someone else will have to do additional time overseas in their place.

Works on the assumpt that 1) The trans person didn't seek GAC until they completed training, and 2) that the GAC would render someone completely unfit for duty.

Even then, your figures are off. Recovery for a Vaginoplasty is only 6-8 weeks. Same with a Metoidioplasty. (that's what you call turning a ***** into a dick.)


I had bunion surgery on both feet when I was in. So I was giving a profile of no marching and no running, but I was still expected to be at my desk, doing the paperwork I had to do. In fact, being me, I requested that my first sergeant drop off a typewriter and whatever stack of paper I had on my desk to my home so I could do work at home. (This was in the days before computers, and we did everything on a typewriter.

So by your logic, a Four-year contract will only see six months of deployment, Maybe they take off 8 weeks at some point to have bottom surgery. (or have light duty for 8 weeks.)

We wont even get into the pre existing condition issues, berthing, bathrooms, etc etc that surround this topic.

Yes, because honestly, these sound like a lot of sexual hangups other people have.

Just because we fought an asymmetric/COIN war the last war doesn't mean that's the one we will fight in the next one. The current war in Ukraine certainly has a front line.

We don't have troops in that war.

 

[JoeB131]

There's an easy fix for that, reinstate the service members xiden kicked out for refusing the clot shot, if we can get them to come back.

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Actually, the vaccine mandate for service members was repealed, and anyone who wanted to was allowed to rejoin. Only 43 of the 8000 discharged did.

The problem with not getting the vaccine shot was that those service members were non-deployable. No country would take an American serviceman who hadn't been vaccinated.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/02/politics/us-military-covid-vaccine/index.html

 

[surada]

Welp. It's a sane idea. Having trannies in the military is super-bad for morale.

Are you in the military?

 

[ColonelAngus]

Send them to Ukraine.

What is the problem?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

And if the officers and SS were doing their jobs he would have never gotten that close with a weapon, much less on top of that building. Someone screwed up big time.

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What was the screw up? It depends on what democrats wanted.

 

[JohnDB]

 

[Stann]

There's a VAST difference between being black, Asian or Hispanic and wanting to wear a dress and prance around like a fairy.

In the world people are people. Why do you believe there's such a big difference between men and women
From the time the egg is fertilized up until the fetus is about 6 weeks old we are all female. At six weeks if there is an extra dose of testosterone given to the fetus , then and only then it becomes a male. What was inside now starts to come to the outside. Basically humans are innies or outies. Whatever the mix , it always takes two to tango. Imagine a world where people are judged wether they have an innie or an outie belly button. Ridiculous right. So is all this crap. People are people.

 

[Stann]

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Your data sheet is very incorrect. Most propaganda is.

 

[JohnDB]

In the world people are people. Why do you believe there's such a big difference between men and women
From the time the egg is fertilized up until the fetus is about 6 weeks old we are all female. At six weeks if there is an extra dose of testosterone given to the fetus , then and only then it becomes a male. What was inside now starts to come to the outside. Basically humans are innies or outies. Whatever the mix , it always takes two to tango. Imagine a world where people are judged wether they have an innie or an outie belly button. Ridiculous right. So is all this crap. People are people.

Well
If you look inside your pants and can't figure out if you have a choo choo train or a tunnel....you are not qualified to be in the military.