Donald Trump takes on federal land control

[BULLDOG]

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[C_Clayton_Jones]

ALMOST sounds like he is standing with the Oregon Militia.... Freedom from government and Freedom for the PEOPLE!

washington examiner ^ | 1/8/16 | Gabby Morrongiello
Trump says Americans shouldn't let the government turn the West into a federally-owned frontier. Forget China, guns or immigration. Donald Trump is taking on a new issue: federal land ownership. In a new op-ed for the Reno Gazette-Journal, the Republican presidential front-runner rails against the "draconian rule" of the Bureau of Land Management and the Obama administration's "land grab" in the western United States. "The BLM controls over 85 percent of the land in Nevada," Trump explains. "In the rural areas, those who for decades have had access to public lands for ranching, mining, logging and energy...

Does this mean Trump wants the land returned to the local Paiute Indians?

Well, I'd say he just wants to represent the people AGAINST government tyranny and stronghold. The government should not be using the "peoples" money to grow government control of any states resources, or any ranchers private property!! That everyone doesn't support these ranchers right to the grazing land and the right to expect our government will not legally stronghold good people in order to DESTROY them is astounding to me. The Local bureau of land mgmnt testified that ranchers do control burns to get rid of juniper that steals the water from the grass. They also said burns often spilled onto the BLM territory and nobody but the Hammonds have been arrested charged and sentenced....ever. Why do you suppose that is? Also, they testified that BLM fires had spilled over onto rancher land and destroyed cattle and property and BLM had never compensated them! Are you starting to see a problem yet? Yeah, the Hammonds are holdouts to a government grab to 170,000 acres of land. Do they intend to destroy them to get the Hammonds part of it? Yep, pretty much! Sound like something worth supporting to you?

Nonsense – there is no 'government tyranny.'

This is typical of the ridiculous lies and idiocy behind the 'militia movement,' nothing more than TPM nitwits and sophomoric libertarians indulging in their childish delusions and fantasies.

 

[ScienceRocks]

NaziCons are desperately trying to get their greedy hands on our federal public lands and other national treasures. This must not be allowed to happen!

Weird how the republican party has changed in the past 100 years...Theodore Roosevelt was one of the biggest drivers of the national park system and cared about the environment greatly.

Today...Well, we need to mine, drill and give it to the rich!

 

[washamericom]

NaziCons are desperately trying to get their greedy hands on our federal public lands and other national treasures. This must not be allowed to happen!

Weird how the republican party has changed in the past 100 years...Theodore Roosevelt was one of the biggest drivers of the national park system and cared about the environment greatly.

Today...Well, we need to mine, drill and give it to the rich!

that's what i was going to say.... Antiquities Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[washamericom]

NaziCons are desperately trying to get their greedy hands on our federal public lands and other national treasures. This must not be allowed to happen!

I live in Nevada, troll. Not all of the 85% of our state's land that the feds control is a national treasure.

area 51

 

[bendog]

ALMOST sounds like he is standing with the Oregon Militia.... Freedom from government and Freedom for the PEOPLE!

washington examiner ^ | 1/8/16 | Gabby Morrongiello
Trump says Americans shouldn't let the government turn the West into a federally-owned frontier. Forget China, guns or immigration. Donald Trump is taking on a new issue: federal land ownership. In a new op-ed for the Reno Gazette-Journal, the Republican presidential front-runner rails against the "draconian rule" of the Bureau of Land Management and the Obama administration's "land grab" in the western United States. "The BLM controls over 85 percent of the land in Nevada," Trump explains. "In the rural areas, those who for decades have had access to public lands for ranching, mining, logging and energy...

He's very thoughtful and thoroughly informed about the issue.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

NaziCons are desperately trying to get their greedy hands on our federal public lands and other national treasures. This must not be allowed to happen!

Weird how the republican party has changed in the past 100 years...Theodore Roosevelt was one of the biggest drivers of the national park system and cared about the environment greatly.

Today...Well, we need to mine, drill and give it to the rich!

that's what i was going to say.... Antiquities Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Unconstitutional.

 

[bodecea]

Why do you care? You got a white guy playing an Indian there.

He was gay too.

....because avatars are important to the discussion.......

 

[boilermaker55]

Oregon has federal land , educate yourself.

The whole place was fed land before it was even a state .

But now being a state it is state land. Educate yourself.

Federal Land Ownership: Is It Constitutional? | Tenth Amendment Center

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Why do you care? You got a white guy playing an Indian there.

He was gay too.

....because avatars are important to the discussion.......

A person's attitude is indeed important to the discussion.

 

[Rustic]

NaziCons are desperately trying to get their greedy hands on our federal public lands and other national treasures. This must not be allowed to happen!

Washington redskin, go back to your casino

 

[bendog]

NaziCons are desperately trying to get their greedy hands on our federal public lands and other national treasures. This must not be allowed to happen!

Weird how the republican party has changed in the past 100 years...Theodore Roosevelt was one of the biggest drivers of the national park system and cared about the environment greatly.

Today...Well, we need to mine, drill and give it to the rich!

that's what i was going to say.... Antiquities Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Unconstitutional.

Not according to courts, Billy. And wingnutism isn't helpful. The ranchers have a valid issue in that land use changes by the BLM are ending some ways of life that existed for generations, and which arguably contributed to the American character. But the BLM's job is to effectuate the "best" use, and I have no interest in subsidizing ranchers who are trying to raise cattle in less efficient ways than other beef industry folks are using, esp if their use of public lands actually harms or alters life found on the land.

So, we should try to find a compromise.

 

[boilermaker55]

What about personal responsibility!
That is all the rage for the teabaggers.

NaziCons are desperately trying to get their greedy hands on our federal public lands and other national treasures. This must not be allowed to happen!

Weird how the republican party has changed in the past 100 years...Theodore Roosevelt was one of the biggest drivers of the national park system and cared about the environment greatly.

Today...Well, we need to mine, drill and give it to the rich!

that's what i was going to say.... Antiquities Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Unconstitutional.

Not according to courts, Billy. And wingnutism isn't helpful. The ranchers have a valid issue in that land use changes by the BLM are ending some ways of life that existed for generations, and which arguably contributed to the American character. But the BLM's job is to effectuate the "best" use, and I have no interest in subsidizing ranchers who are trying to raise cattle in less efficient ways than other beef industry folks are using, esp if their use of public lands actually harms or alters life found on the land.

So, we should try to find a compromise.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

NaziCons are desperately trying to get their greedy hands on our federal public lands and other national treasures. This must not be allowed to happen!

Weird how the republican party has changed in the past 100 years...Theodore Roosevelt was one of the biggest drivers of the national park system and cared about the environment greatly.

Today...Well, we need to mine, drill and give it to the rich!

that's what i was going to say.... Antiquities Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Unconstitutional.

Not according to courts, Billy. And wingnutism isn't helpful. The ranchers have a valid issue in that land use changes by the BLM are ending some ways of life that existed for generations, and which arguably contributed to the American character. But the BLM's job is to effectuate the "best" use, and I have no interest in subsidizing ranchers who are trying to raise cattle in less efficient ways than other beef industry folks are using, esp if their use of public lands actually harms or alters life found on the land.

So, we should try to find a compromise.

The courts are wrong on this issue, ergo the law is enforced at gunpoint, not by constitutional authority.

 

[Rustic]

NaziCons are desperately trying to get their greedy hands on our federal public lands and other national treasures. This must not be allowed to happen!

Weird how the republican party has changed in the past 100 years...Theodore Roosevelt was one of the biggest drivers of the national park system and cared about the environment greatly.

Today...Well, we need to mine, drill and give it to the rich!

He was not a conservative, dumba$$
Him and Woodrow Wilson were two sides of the same coin... The start of progressive politics.
Both really nasty people and their treatment of Indians was horrific.

 

[bendog]

NaziCons are desperately trying to get their greedy hands on our federal public lands and other national treasures. This must not be allowed to happen!

Weird how the republican party has changed in the past 100 years...Theodore Roosevelt was one of the biggest drivers of the national park system and cared about the environment greatly.

Today...Well, we need to mine, drill and give it to the rich!

that's what i was going to say.... Antiquities Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Unconstitutional.

Not according to courts, Billy. And wingnutism isn't helpful. The ranchers have a valid issue in that land use changes by the BLM are ending some ways of life that existed for generations, and which arguably contributed to the American character. But the BLM's job is to effectuate the "best" use, and I have no interest in subsidizing ranchers who are trying to raise cattle in less efficient ways than other beef industry folks are using, esp if their use of public lands actually harms or alters life found on the land.

So, we should try to find a compromise.

The courts are wrong on this issue, ergo the law is enforced at gunpoint, not by constitutional authority.

Bank robbers have law enforced at gunpoint, and that doesnt' mean the law's wrong, billy.

Your wingnutism has always made your views easy to parody. The BLM administers federal lands in the way that maximizes the most benefit to Americans as a whole. There's nothing illegal or immoral about that.

The question is whether small family free range ranching can be preserved in some way.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Not according to courts, Billy.

The Constitution does not authorize permanent state land-grabs by the federal government. If you believe it does, show the article.

 

[BULLDOG]

Not according to courts, Billy.

The Constitution does not authorize permanent state land-grabs by the federal government. If you believe it does, show the article.

No need for a land grab. The federal government owns it to start with.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Donald Trump's Shameful Eminent Domain Abuse

say no more.

 

[Deleted member 53821]

NaziCons are desperately trying to get their greedy hands on our federal public lands and other national treasures. This must not be allowed to happen!

Damn. Why shouldn't the government own 100% of the land. We can't dare have THE PEOPLE own the land in this country. How dare the peons think they can own any land.