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Yeah I grabbed the last two sections and YES the place is busy.. Same link as OPFix Our Broken Mental Health System
Let’s be clear about this. Our mental health system is broken. It needs to be fixed. Too many politicians have ignored this problem for too long.
All of the tragic mass murders that occurred in the past several years have something in common – there were red flags that were ignored. We can’t allow that to continue. We need to expand treatment programs, because most people with mental health problems aren’t violent, they just need help. But for those who are violent, a danger to themselves or others, we need to get them off the street before they can terrorize our communities. This is just common sense.
And why does this matter to law-abiding gun owners? Once again, because they get blamed by anti-gun politicians, gun control groups and the media for the acts of deranged madmen. When one of these tragedies occurs, we can count on two things: one, that opponents of gun rights will immediately exploit it to push their political agenda; and two, that none of their so-called “solutions” would have prevented the tragedy in the first place. They’ve even admitted it.
We need real solutions to address real problems. Not grandstanding or political agendas.
BAM! Somebody said something. It's about time.
Good luck loading the page right now. May have to come back when its not getting pummeled.
UPDATE: its back online
As a CCL holder I like the idea of a National Right to Carry.
Second Amendment Rights
Not true. My license does not permit me to conceal carry anywhere in the US. Some states have laws that will allow it however (Licensed in another state to carry in their state)Good luck loading the page right now. May have to come back when its not getting pummeled.
UPDATE: its back online
As a CCL holder I like the idea of a National Right to Carry.
Second Amendment Rights
If you're licensed to carry in your State the Constitution requires other States to recognize it. But when did the Constitution stand in the way of most anything a State wants to do.
Article 4, Section 1
Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records, and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof.
Okay question. IF we members take PARTS of that story just PARTS and the whole thing winds up here because of MORE then one member. Does THAT violate any rules?Not true. My license does not permit me to conceal carry anywhere in the US. Some states have laws that will allow it however (Licensed in another state to carry in their state)Good luck loading the page right now. May have to come back when its not getting pummeled.
UPDATE: its back online
As a CCL holder I like the idea of a National Right to Carry.
Second Amendment Rights
If you're licensed to carry in your State the Constitution requires other States to recognize it. But when did the Constitution stand in the way of most anything a State wants to do.
Article 4, Section 1
Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records, and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof.
His point is how it ought to be. I am against forcing states to adopt laws like that btw.Not true. My license does not permit me to conceal carry anywhere in the US. Some states have laws that will allow it however (Licensed in another state to carry in their state)Good luck loading the page right now. May have to come back when its not getting pummeled.
UPDATE: its back online
As a CCL holder I like the idea of a National Right to Carry.
Second Amendment Rights
If you're licensed to carry in your State the Constitution requires other States to recognize it. But when did the Constitution stand in the way of most anything a State wants to do.
Article 4, Section 1
Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records, and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof.
People change their mind on stuff. Can one NOT change their mind and still be honest? Of course.His point is how it ought to be. I am against forcing states to adopt laws like that btw.Not true. My license does not permit me to conceal carry anywhere in the US. Some states have laws that will allow it however (Licensed in another state to carry in their state)Good luck loading the page right now. May have to come back when its not getting pummeled.
UPDATE: its back online
As a CCL holder I like the idea of a National Right to Carry.
Second Amendment Rights
If you're licensed to carry in your State the Constitution requires other States to recognize it. But when did the Constitution stand in the way of most anything a State wants to do.
Article 4, Section 1
Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records, and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof.
Trump's position here is at odds with positions he's taken in the past. I guess these poll-tested much better than his old positions.
Trump has "changed his mind" on virtually every single issue, all within the last 9-12 months.People change their mind on stuff. Can one NOT change their mind and still be honest? Of course.His point is how it ought to be. I am against forcing states to adopt laws like that btw.Not true. My license does not permit me to conceal carry anywhere in the US. Some states have laws that will allow it however (Licensed in another state to carry in their state)Good luck loading the page right now. May have to come back when its not getting pummeled.
UPDATE: its back online
As a CCL holder I like the idea of a National Right to Carry.
Second Amendment Rights
If you're licensed to carry in your State the Constitution requires other States to recognize it. But when did the Constitution stand in the way of most anything a State wants to do.
Article 4, Section 1
Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records, and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof.
Trump's position here is at odds with positions he's taken in the past. I guess these poll-tested much better than his old positions.
Reagan changed his mind as well. Did anybody check the time on that? Is there a REQUIRED amount of time? If you were an atheist last month and a Christian this month is there a waiting period when you are NOT either?Trump has "changed his mind" on virtually every single issue, all within the last 9-12 months.People change their mind on stuff. Can one NOT change their mind and still be honest? Of course.His point is how it ought to be. I am against forcing states to adopt laws like that btw.Not true. My license does not permit me to conceal carry anywhere in the US. Some states have laws that will allow it however (Licensed in another state to carry in their state)Good luck loading the page right now. May have to come back when its not getting pummeled.
UPDATE: its back online
As a CCL holder I like the idea of a National Right to Carry.
Second Amendment Rights
If you're licensed to carry in your State the Constitution requires other States to recognize it. But when did the Constitution stand in the way of most anything a State wants to do.
Article 4, Section 1
Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records, and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof.
Trump's position here is at odds with positions he's taken in the past. I guess these poll-tested much better than his old positions.
So, no, that doesnt pass the smell test.
The Bill of Rights are your civil rights. He CAN with hold funding and the courts would back him.He's got his finger in the air. The president can't implement those things but he can use the bully pulpit and maybe some deal making leverage. I'd love to cross state lines with my weapons but there would be massive opposition to it. Oregon isn't bad, but California? ain't gonna happen.
The president doesn't fund anything and it's an Amendment, not part of the BoR.The Bill of Rights are your civil rights. He CAN with hold funding and the courts would back him.He's got his finger in the air. The president can't implement those things but he can use the bully pulpit and maybe some deal making leverage. I'd love to cross state lines with my weapons but there would be massive opposition to it. Oregon isn't bad, but California? ain't gonna happen.
YOUR 2nd Amendment RIGHT should be good in ANY state of the union period.DISIR SAID:
"And why does this matter to law-abiding gun owners? Once again, because they get blamed by anti-gun politicians, gun control groups and the media for the acts of deranged madmen. When one of these tragedies occurs, we can count on two things: one, that opponents of gun rights will immediately exploit it to push their political agenda; and two, that none of their so-called “solutions” would have prevented the tragedy in the first place. They’ve even admitted it."
Wrong.
No one is 'blaming' gun owners for acts of violence with firearms; and much of what is being proposed conforms with current Second Amendment jurisprudence – we may not like or agree with that jurisprudence, but gun control measures enacted pursuant to that case law is nonetheless Constitutional.
Consequently, there are no 'opponents' of gun rights if what they propose is consistent with Second Amendment jurisprudence, nor are they seeking to 'exploit' anything or 'push' any 'agenda.'
We do need real solutions to address real problems, but attempting to propagate the ridiculous lies quoted above are in no way a 'solution,' as they are not real problems, where such inane rhetoric will serve only to hinder finding and implementing real solutions.
The president doesn't fund anything and it's an Amendment, not part of the BoR.The Bill of Rights are your civil rights. He CAN with hold funding and the courts would back him.He's got his finger in the air. The president can't implement those things but he can use the bully pulpit and maybe some deal making leverage. I'd love to cross state lines with my weapons but there would be massive opposition to it. Oregon isn't bad, but California? ain't gonna happen.
DISIR SAID:
"And why does this matter to law-abiding gun owners? Once again, because they get blamed by anti-gun politicians, gun control groups and the media for the acts of deranged madmen. When one of these tragedies occurs, we can count on two things: one, that opponents of gun rights will immediately exploit it to push their political agenda; and two, that none of their so-called “solutions” would have prevented the tragedy in the first place. They’ve even admitted it."
Wrong.
No one is 'blaming' gun owners for acts of violence with firearms; and much of what is being proposed conforms with current Second Amendment jurisprudence – we may not like or agree with that jurisprudence, but gun control measures enacted pursuant to that case law is nonetheless Constitutional.
Consequently, there are no 'opponents' of gun rights if what they propose is consistent with Second Amendment jurisprudence, nor are they seeking to 'exploit' anything or 'push' any 'agenda.'
We do need real solutions to address real problems, but attempting to propagate the ridiculous lies quoted above are in no way a 'solution,' as they are not real problems, where such inane rhetoric will serve only to hinder finding and implementing real solutions.
Yeah I grabbed the last two sections and YES the place is busy.. Same link as OPFix Our Broken Mental Health System
Let’s be clear about this. Our mental health system is broken. It needs to be fixed. Too many politicians have ignored this problem for too long.
All of the tragic mass murders that occurred in the past several years have something in common – there were red flags that were ignored. We can’t allow that to continue. We need to expand treatment programs, because most people with mental health problems aren’t violent, they just need help. But for those who are violent, a danger to themselves or others, we need to get them off the street before they can terrorize our communities. This is just common sense.
And why does this matter to law-abiding gun owners? Once again, because they get blamed by anti-gun politicians, gun control groups and the media for the acts of deranged madmen. When one of these tragedies occurs, we can count on two things: one, that opponents of gun rights will immediately exploit it to push their political agenda; and two, that none of their so-called “solutions” would have prevented the tragedy in the first place. They’ve even admitted it.
We need real solutions to address real problems. Not grandstanding or political agendas.
BAM! Somebody said something. It's about time.
"NATIONAL RIGHT TO CARRY. The right of self-defense doesn’t stop at the end of your driveway. That’s why I have a concealed carry permit and why tens of millions of Americans do too. That permit should be valid in all 50 states. A driver’s license works in every state, so it’s common sense that a concealed carry permit should work in every state. If we can do that for driving – which is a privilege, not a right – then surely we can do that for concealed carry, which is a right, not a privilege.
MILITARY BASES AND RECRUITING CENTERS. Banning our military from carrying firearms on bases and at recruiting centers is ridiculous. We train our military how to safely and responsibly use firearms, but our current policies leave them defenseless. To make America great again, we need a strong military. To have a strong military, we need to allow them to defend themselves."
The RIGHT to carry SHOULD be a NATIONAL right because it IS a right given to ALL of us.
