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There has not been massive fraud enough to change the outcome of a presidential election.
How the fuck could you possibly know that? You couldn't know that. Nobody could. So you're just making shit up (as usual).
Of course we know. It was investigated by Twice Impeached Trump’s own Department of Justice.

“to date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election.” ~ William Barr, former Attorney General

Which is dumb. It is silly to think that all fraud was found.


The point is the widespread fraud is done for a reason. TO effect an outcome in the election.


Evidence of widespread fraud indicates the need for more information.
That’s the point. There is zero evidence of widespread fraud. Zero!

Funny. The quote was that there was not evidence of enough fraud to swing the election.

Yet you either failed to read that properly or your brain lied to you, (confirmation bias) to protect your fragile world view.


My point stands. The point of fraud is to swing the election. If we see evidence of fraud, then an investigation to see how much more there was that was not found, in the rushed initial look, is reasonable.


Just assuming that what you see is all there is, is madness.


This country is like a man waking in bed and seeing smoke building up on the ceiling, and going back to sleep because, just a little smoke, is not proof of fire somewhere.
There wasn't enough fraud to swing the election, period. You

You don't even have smoke. The evidence of fraud doesn't even amount to a lit cigarette which is why Trump and his merry band of whacked out "lawyers" had over 60 chances to provide evidence and could not.

You fell for the big lie.

Which is not what he said. He said there was not EVIDENCE of enough fraud to swing the election.


SO, just ignore that little bit of smoke on the ceiling. Go back to sleep. It is not enough smoke to be dangerous.
Right. A cigarette is burning and you want to call it a four alarm fire. There was no more more fraud this election than any other in recent history. Trump lost a free and fair election then lied about it to his slurping sycophants like you and you lapped it up.

I want a real investigation. And to stop the new rules, that certainly look like they were designed to make it easier for commit fraud.
You want an investigation based on a lie so it’s all bullshit. The new rules were for Covid and no other reason. There was no wide spread fraud enough to change the outcome. The worst president in modern history lost. I don’t get why you guys are so surprised by this.
1. So, you dems going to change the rules back?

2. HOw do you know that?

3. Trump had a fine economy and no new wars, until covid hit. That was far better than a lot of modern presidents can say. Your claim otherwise is just more lying from you.

4. Who said I am surprised? I have been aware of the whole point of Third World Immigration and massive propaganda for decades.
1. Maybe, maybe not. Some of the changes made sense and worked. Ballots postmarked on Election Day should be counted beyond election day. California normally gives three days. We gave longer this last time due to COVID and Trump intentionally screwing with the Post Office. Other changes that should be kept include no excuse Vote by Mail, eliminate this "absentee" bullshit altogether. States or counties that went Universal Vote by Mail should keep it if they liked it. I know my county did. We had our first in 2017 and sign ups for permanent Vote by Mail skyrocketed.

2. I know that because there is no evidence of it. There is more evidence of ghosts, bigfoot, the Loch Ness monster and UFOs than there is of widespread fraud. American elections are very secure. We should be proud of our system. I am proud of our system. This was my 4th presidential election working in an Election Office. Smoothest one ever, despite one of the highest turnouts ever.

3. He did have a fine economy thanks to his predecessor...then he fucked it up. We could be on the road to recovery like other countries but Trump botched the response. It's what cost him a second term.

4. Way to blame someone else for Trump being a horrible person and a worse President. So much for the party of "personal responsibility" . :lol:

1. Got it. You want to keep the new rules that make cheating easier.

2. Nope. The quote was that there was not evidence of enough cheating to swing the election.

3. He inherited a fine economy that was coming to the end of the normal business cycle. He extended it, and in such a way that wages were showing some excellent movement upwards, especially for the working poor. And he did not botch the response. The numbers were artificially inflated to include vast numbers of other deaths.

4. Seawytch, your side has been gloating for years how demographic change will result in an one party state. The vast majority of voters don't vote according to the candidate but by party. And most of your votes are based on Identity, not policies. So, don't play dumb.
1. There is no evidence that any of the "new rules" makes "cheating" any easier.

2. Right. Basically the same amount of fraud as there is in every election. There was no widespread fraud, period. Biden won a free and fair election. Trump wasn't cheated. He lost fair and square and then lied to his slurping sycophants that lapped it up.

3. Wrong. Stop believing the lies. Debunking the False Claim That COVID Death Counts Are Inflated
Trump blew the response and the great economy he inherited. If he had taken the virus seriously the economy wouldn't be in such bad shape.

4. Not anymore....y'all are Trumpsters now. Gonna join Trump's "patriot party"?

1. You need evidence that stretching the vote over months, makes cheating easier? LOL!!!

2. And you are so sure of that, that you and your side, resists any investigation to prove it. Mmm.

3. The cdc stated that they were accepting guesses as valid and that they were providing extra money for "covid" deaths. Right there, the numbers were designed to be garbage from the very beginning.

4. So, you dropping the point about surprised? Got it.
1. Yes. Provide actual proof that any of the rule changes made it "easier to cheat". It isn't like states haven't been mailing ballots to voters for decades. Oregon has had Universal Vote by Mail for years. Where's all the cheating? And what about Utah? I don't see you guys whining about Utah being a Universal Vote by Mail state. How come?

2. You had your investigation. Trump, after he actually WON, was lying about voter fraud in 2016 and his "investigation" found nothing. Trump LIED to you. He didn't "really win".

3. It's funny how none of y'alls claims ever come with links. Probably because they are LIES.

4. What? Sorry, ya lost me. Are we back to "boo hoo, the media kept reporting the stupid fucking things Trump said and did"?

From your link.

" Numerous readers have asked us about such claims, some of which imply that hospitals are making money by simply listing patients as having the disease — when in fact the payments referenced are for treating patients. And while some of the posts imply that fraud may be afoot, multiple experts told us that such theories of hospitals deliberately miscoding patients as COVID-19 are not supported by any evidence. "


Wow. So the hospitals are not getting paid for "listing" covid, but for "treating" covid and on that the "factcheckers" pretend that the hospitals are not getting paid extra for covid patients.


Sophist word games, and you think that means something.


They have a motive for reporting that the patients they are treating have covid. A money motive.

AND the cdc is accepting, A. guesses, and B. deaths with covid as deaths FROM covid.
They are listing COVID deaths as COVID deaths, that's it. There aren't artificially inflated numbers. We are in a fucking deadly pandemic and COVID is killing people. To deny it is just sick and twisted.

They are listing guesses and deaths WITH covid as caused BY covid.


That right there, is TWICE OVER, the numbers being garbage.


Combined? Less than garbage.
No, they aren't. All experts agree that we are likely underreporting COVID deaths. Just stop with the ridiculous conspiracy theories.

Is the Coronavirus Death Tally Inflated? Here’s Why Experts Say No



Yes, they are. Your denial is nonsense.
No they aren't. Your proof that they are is sorely lacking. Fact is that COVID deaths are underreported.


I saw tehe cdc admit that they were accepting guess, and that they were accepting deaths with and deaths from AND that they were providing more funding for reporting covid.


Any numbers based on that type of data collection, are useless garbage.
Oh you “saw” it. Well, that seals the deal then. :lol: You “saw” a LIE.

The cdc lied about what they were accepting as covid stats?


mmm, that seems unlikely. Why would they admit to something that was not true and makes them look like incompetent, panic mongering assholes?
The CDC never said what you claim. Made even more obvious to your lack of a link to them saying it.

COVID numbers are not inflated, but underreported.


Hundreds of cdc reports and announcements, to find the one where they admitted that they were accepting guesses as valid and/or the one where they admitted they were counting "with" as "from"?

Could take me hours to track that shit down.

Screw that. I saw them say it, and that is when I stopped paying any attention to their shit numbers.


You want to pretend that those shit numbers mean anything, you are welcome to play whatever pretend games you want.
Yes, find it or you’re full of shit. (it’s OK though I already know you’re full of shit) Donald Trump lies. Stop believing him.

Sorry, last time I looked up such a link for one of you trolls, you didn't even read the first sentence. So, no. PIss off.

I saw them do it, I know that the numbers are bullshit.
Lame cop out.


Studies based on garbage numbers come up with garbage conclusions.

THe fix was in, from the beginning to make sure we would have garbage numbers.
 

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Studies based on garbage numbers come up with garbage conclusions.

THe fix was in, from the beginning to make sure we would have garbage numbers.
What "fix"? Seriously, what motivation is there to "fix" death totals? You can see just from the number of excess deaths recorded last year that the COVID death numbers are not inflated.


It wasn't created to hurt Donald Trump. The numbers aren't inflated to hurt Donald Trump. Trump failed in his response and it cost him the election.
 

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Studies based on garbage numbers come up with garbage conclusions.

THe fix was in, from the beginning to make sure we would have garbage numbers.
What "fix"? Seriously, what motivation is there to "fix" death totals? You can see just from the number of excess deaths recorded last year that the COVID death numbers are not inflated.


It wasn't created to hurt Donald Trump. The numbers aren't inflated to hurt Donald Trump. Trump failed in his response and it cost him the election.


1. Your pretense that you are unaware of the usefulness of covid and the shutdown for your side, politically, makes you look not credible.

2. When you accept guesses, and with as from AND give out more money for covid, the numbers cannot be trusted.

3. You claim there was no motive to do this, and in the same post use it to attack Trump politically. LOL!!!
 

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Studies based on garbage numbers come up with garbage conclusions.

THe fix was in, from the beginning to make sure we would have garbage numbers.
What "fix"? Seriously, what motivation is there to "fix" death totals? You can see just from the number of excess deaths recorded last year that the COVID death numbers are not inflated.


It wasn't created to hurt Donald Trump. The numbers aren't inflated to hurt Donald Trump. Trump failed in his response and it cost him the election.


1. Your pretense that you are unaware of the usefulness of covid and the shutdown for your side, politically, makes you look not credible.

2. When you accept guesses, and with as from AND give out more money for covid, the numbers cannot be trusted.

3. You claim there was no motive to do this, and in the same post use it to attack Trump politically. LOL!!!
Pointing out facts is not "attacking him politically", it's pointing out the FACT of his failed response.

How do you explain that we have roughly the same number of excess deaths as the reported number of COVID deaths? Explain that one away with one of your ludicrous conspiracy theories.
 

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Worst. President. Ever.
It's almost over. Obviously its effects aren't going away for a while, but at least it's almost over.

Another Republican mess to clean up.
So what about Joe, killing all those jobs already. The pandemic still looms and the economy is not even at it's healthiest and he shuts down the pipeline and wants to allow more illegal immigrants into the country... I've never seen a President do so much damage so quickly.
 

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Studies based on garbage numbers come up with garbage conclusions.

THe fix was in, from the beginning to make sure we would have garbage numbers.
What "fix"? Seriously, what motivation is there to "fix" death totals? You can see just from the number of excess deaths recorded last year that the COVID death numbers are not inflated.


It wasn't created to hurt Donald Trump. The numbers aren't inflated to hurt Donald Trump. Trump failed in his response and it cost him the election.


1. Your pretense that you are unaware of the usefulness of covid and the shutdown for your side, politically, makes you look not credible.

2. When you accept guesses, and with as from AND give out more money for covid, the numbers cannot be trusted.

3. You claim there was no motive to do this, and in the same post use it to attack Trump politically. LOL!!!
Pointing out facts is not "attacking him politically", it's pointing out the FACT of his failed response.

How do you explain that we have roughly the same number of excess deaths as the reported number of COVID deaths? Explain that one away with one of your ludicrous conspiracy theories.


Dude. YOu gin up bad numbers, and then blame them on your enemy.


People do that with statistics all the time. THe only slight variation here, is that instead of just massaging the numbers, you are interfering with the gathering of the data.


YOur pretense that this is... out of the question, is just you being silly.

Knock it off.
 

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Studies based on garbage numbers come up with garbage conclusions.

THe fix was in, from the beginning to make sure we would have garbage numbers.
What "fix"? Seriously, what motivation is there to "fix" death totals? You can see just from the number of excess deaths recorded last year that the COVID death numbers are not inflated.


It wasn't created to hurt Donald Trump. The numbers aren't inflated to hurt Donald Trump. Trump failed in his response and it cost him the election.


1. Your pretense that you are unaware of the usefulness of covid and the shutdown for your side, politically, makes you look not credible.

2. When you accept guesses, and with as from AND give out more money for covid, the numbers cannot be trusted.

3. You claim there was no motive to do this, and in the same post use it to attack Trump politically. LOL!!!
Pointing out facts is not "attacking him politically", it's pointing out the FACT of his failed response.

How do you explain that we have roughly the same number of excess deaths as the reported number of COVID deaths? Explain that one away with one of your ludicrous conspiracy theories.


Dude. YOu gin up bad numbers, and then blame them on your enemy.


People do that with statistics all the time. THe only slight variation here, is that instead of just massaging the numbers, you are interfering with the gathering of the data.


YOur pretense that this is... out of the question, is just you being silly.

Knock it off.
What bad numbers? We have had over 400,000 excess deaths in 2020...which matches up with the COVID death total. COVID is killing Americans at a rate of thousands per day. This is reality. You wanting to deny that fact, for what possible reason escapes normal people, is just sick.
 

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Studies based on garbage numbers come up with garbage conclusions.

THe fix was in, from the beginning to make sure we would have garbage numbers.
What "fix"? Seriously, what motivation is there to "fix" death totals? You can see just from the number of excess deaths recorded last year that the COVID death numbers are not inflated.


It wasn't created to hurt Donald Trump. The numbers aren't inflated to hurt Donald Trump. Trump failed in his response and it cost him the election.


1. Your pretense that you are unaware of the usefulness of covid and the shutdown for your side, politically, makes you look not credible.

2. When you accept guesses, and with as from AND give out more money for covid, the numbers cannot be trusted.

3. You claim there was no motive to do this, and in the same post use it to attack Trump politically. LOL!!!
Pointing out facts is not "attacking him politically", it's pointing out the FACT of his failed response.

How do you explain that we have roughly the same number of excess deaths as the reported number of COVID deaths? Explain that one away with one of your ludicrous conspiracy theories.


Dude. YOu gin up bad numbers, and then blame them on your enemy.


People do that with statistics all the time. THe only slight variation here, is that instead of just massaging the numbers, you are interfering with the gathering of the data.


YOur pretense that this is... out of the question, is just you being silly.

Knock it off.
What bad numbers? We have had over 400,000 excess deaths in 2020...which matches up with the COVID death total. COVID is killing Americans at a rate of thousands per day. This is reality. You wanting to deny that fact, for what possible reason escapes normal people, is just sick.


What bad numbers?

The bad numbers I have been talking about with you for days.


That bit, where you ignore that a point has been answered, and pretend it was not, and just reassert your initial position?


That is the logical fallacy of proof by assertion, and is a tactic you use, when you know that the truth is, that you are wrong.


By using such a tactic,, you have implicitly admitted that you know that the numbers were ginned up to give you people a club to beat Trump with.
 

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Lol in what world do trump cultists live in?
In the world the left refuses to live in. It's called "reality". You know, where someone with a penis and testicles isn't called "a real woman".
Every channel I tune in to, friends and family members all over the world, their FB feeds they all celebrated the departure of the dumbest most erratic asshole to ever make it to the White House.
Well that just illustrates how you submerse yourself in a left-wing propaganda echo chamber.
What a fucking nightmare that was.
Right? I mean nothing says "fucking nightmare" like:
  • Record low unemployment
  • Record market highs
  • Four historic peach agreements
  • Not a single war
  • Lower taxes
  • Increased wealth across the nation
  • Secured borders
  • Defeat of ISIS
  • Trillions brought home from overseas thanks to repatriation tax break
  • Decades long high in manufacturing
  • Becoming #1 in the world in oil and natural gas production
That's literally just the tip of the iceberg. He accomplished more in 4 years than Clinton and Obama combined did in 16 years. And you can make it 20 years if you add Biden, because he won't accomplish any two of those items.
"Record low unemployment"

That's as far as I got to see you're lying just to fluff Twice Impeached Trump. Unemployment has been lower.

 

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Oh FFS you obedient government lap-dog, even the hard left NY Times admitted that anyone who died was marked as "COVID" even if it was in a motorcycle accident or cancer.
No they didn’t. You’re such a useful idiot.
Just curious...do you ever get tired of me proving to everyone how you're uninformed about every subject you speak out about? Including the NY Times own twitter account just to help drive it home since you would cry "Glenn Beck". :laugh:

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Nothing in there about a motorcycle, Buttplug. Do you ever stop lying?
 

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Studies based on garbage numbers come up with garbage conclusions.

THe fix was in, from the beginning to make sure we would have garbage numbers.
What "fix"? Seriously, what motivation is there to "fix" death totals? You can see just from the number of excess deaths recorded last year that the COVID death numbers are not inflated.


It wasn't created to hurt Donald Trump. The numbers aren't inflated to hurt Donald Trump. Trump failed in his response and it cost him the election.


1. Your pretense that you are unaware of the usefulness of covid and the shutdown for your side, politically, makes you look not credible.

2. When you accept guesses, and with as from AND give out more money for covid, the numbers cannot be trusted.

3. You claim there was no motive to do this, and in the same post use it to attack Trump politically. LOL!!!
Pointing out facts is not "attacking him politically", it's pointing out the FACT of his failed response.

How do you explain that we have roughly the same number of excess deaths as the reported number of COVID deaths? Explain that one away with one of your ludicrous conspiracy theories.


Dude. YOu gin up bad numbers, and then blame them on your enemy.


People do that with statistics all the time. THe only slight variation here, is that instead of just massaging the numbers, you are interfering with the gathering of the data.


YOur pretense that this is... out of the question, is just you being silly.

Knock it off.
What bad numbers? We have had over 400,000 excess deaths in 2020...which matches up with the COVID death total. COVID is killing Americans at a rate of thousands per day. This is reality. You wanting to deny that fact, for what possible reason escapes normal people, is just sick.


What bad numbers?

The bad numbers I have been talking about with you for days.


That bit, where you ignore that a point has been answered, and pretend it was not, and just reassert your initial position?


That is the logical fallacy of proof by assertion, and is a tactic you use, when you know that the truth is, that you are wrong.


By using such a tactic,, you have implicitly admitted that you know that the numbers were ginned up to give you people a club to beat Trump with.
You have provide ZERO proof that the "numbers are bad".

The reported death totals are supported by the number of excess deaths we have experienced in the United States.

COVID is killing Americans at a rate of thousands per day. This is not "ginned up". You're a crackpot.
 

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Studies based on garbage numbers come up with garbage conclusions.

THe fix was in, from the beginning to make sure we would have garbage numbers.
What "fix"? Seriously, what motivation is there to "fix" death totals? You can see just from the number of excess deaths recorded last year that the COVID death numbers are not inflated.


It wasn't created to hurt Donald Trump. The numbers aren't inflated to hurt Donald Trump. Trump failed in his response and it cost him the election.


1. Your pretense that you are unaware of the usefulness of covid and the shutdown for your side, politically, makes you look not credible.

2. When you accept guesses, and with as from AND give out more money for covid, the numbers cannot be trusted.

3. You claim there was no motive to do this, and in the same post use it to attack Trump politically. LOL!!!
Pointing out facts is not "attacking him politically", it's pointing out the FACT of his failed response.

How do you explain that we have roughly the same number of excess deaths as the reported number of COVID deaths? Explain that one away with one of your ludicrous conspiracy theories.


Dude. YOu gin up bad numbers, and then blame them on your enemy.


People do that with statistics all the time. THe only slight variation here, is that instead of just massaging the numbers, you are interfering with the gathering of the data.


YOur pretense that this is... out of the question, is just you being silly.

Knock it off.
What bad numbers? We have had over 400,000 excess deaths in 2020...which matches up with the COVID death total. COVID is killing Americans at a rate of thousands per day. This is reality. You wanting to deny that fact, for what possible reason escapes normal people, is just sick.


What bad numbers?

The bad numbers I have been talking about with you for days.


That bit, where you ignore that a point has been answered, and pretend it was not, and just reassert your initial position?


That is the logical fallacy of proof by assertion, and is a tactic you use, when you know that the truth is, that you are wrong.


By using such a tactic,, you have implicitly admitted that you know that the numbers were ginned up to give you people a club to beat Trump with.
You have provide ZERO proof that the "numbers are bad".

The reported death totals are supported by the number of excess deaths we have experienced in the United States.

COVID is killing Americans at a rate of thousands per day. This is not "ginned up". You're a crackpot.
The pandemic is global.
US Blue Cities are magnets for international business and gangs so more people got sick and died.
 

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Studies based on garbage numbers come up with garbage conclusions.

THe fix was in, from the beginning to make sure we would have garbage numbers.
What "fix"? Seriously, what motivation is there to "fix" death totals? You can see just from the number of excess deaths recorded last year that the COVID death numbers are not inflated.


It wasn't created to hurt Donald Trump. The numbers aren't inflated to hurt Donald Trump. Trump failed in his response and it cost him the election.


1. Your pretense that you are unaware of the usefulness of covid and the shutdown for your side, politically, makes you look not credible.

2. When you accept guesses, and with as from AND give out more money for covid, the numbers cannot be trusted.

3. You claim there was no motive to do this, and in the same post use it to attack Trump politically. LOL!!!
Pointing out facts is not "attacking him politically", it's pointing out the FACT of his failed response.

How do you explain that we have roughly the same number of excess deaths as the reported number of COVID deaths? Explain that one away with one of your ludicrous conspiracy theories.


Dude. YOu gin up bad numbers, and then blame them on your enemy.


People do that with statistics all the time. THe only slight variation here, is that instead of just massaging the numbers, you are interfering with the gathering of the data.


YOur pretense that this is... out of the question, is just you being silly.

Knock it off.
What bad numbers? We have had over 400,000 excess deaths in 2020...which matches up with the COVID death total. COVID is killing Americans at a rate of thousands per day. This is reality. You wanting to deny that fact, for what possible reason escapes normal people, is just sick.


What bad numbers?

The bad numbers I have been talking about with you for days.


That bit, where you ignore that a point has been answered, and pretend it was not, and just reassert your initial position?


That is the logical fallacy of proof by assertion, and is a tactic you use, when you know that the truth is, that you are wrong.


By using such a tactic,, you have implicitly admitted that you know that the numbers were ginned up to give you people a club to beat Trump with.
You have provide ZERO proof that the "numbers are bad".

The reported death totals are supported by the number of excess deaths we have experienced in the United States.

COVID is killing Americans at a rate of thousands per day. This is not "ginned up". You're a crackpot.
The pandemic is global.
US Blue Cities are magnets for international business and gangs so more people got sick and died.
Yes, it's a pandemic. It means it would have gotten here one way or the other. And?
 

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Studies based on garbage numbers come up with garbage conclusions.

THe fix was in, from the beginning to make sure we would have garbage numbers.
What "fix"? Seriously, what motivation is there to "fix" death totals? You can see just from the number of excess deaths recorded last year that the COVID death numbers are not inflated.


It wasn't created to hurt Donald Trump. The numbers aren't inflated to hurt Donald Trump. Trump failed in his response and it cost him the election.


1. Your pretense that you are unaware of the usefulness of covid and the shutdown for your side, politically, makes you look not credible.

2. When you accept guesses, and with as from AND give out more money for covid, the numbers cannot be trusted.

3. You claim there was no motive to do this, and in the same post use it to attack Trump politically. LOL!!!
Pointing out facts is not "attacking him politically", it's pointing out the FACT of his failed response.

How do you explain that we have roughly the same number of excess deaths as the reported number of COVID deaths? Explain that one away with one of your ludicrous conspiracy theories.


Dude. YOu gin up bad numbers, and then blame them on your enemy.


People do that with statistics all the time. THe only slight variation here, is that instead of just massaging the numbers, you are interfering with the gathering of the data.


YOur pretense that this is... out of the question, is just you being silly.

Knock it off.
What bad numbers? We have had over 400,000 excess deaths in 2020...which matches up with the COVID death total. COVID is killing Americans at a rate of thousands per day. This is reality. You wanting to deny that fact, for what possible reason escapes normal people, is just sick.


What bad numbers?

The bad numbers I have been talking about with you for days.


That bit, where you ignore that a point has been answered, and pretend it was not, and just reassert your initial position?


That is the logical fallacy of proof by assertion, and is a tactic you use, when you know that the truth is, that you are wrong.


By using such a tactic,, you have implicitly admitted that you know that the numbers were ginned up to give you people a club to beat Trump with.
You have provide ZERO proof that the "numbers are bad".

The reported death totals are supported by the number of excess deaths we have experienced in the United States.

COVID is killing Americans at a rate of thousands per day. This is not "ginned up". You're a crackpot.
The pandemic is global.
US Blue Cities are magnets for international business and gangs so more people got sick and died.
Yes, it's a pandemic. It means it would have gotten here one way or the other. And?
And Trump is not to blame.
 

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Studies based on garbage numbers come up with garbage conclusions.

THe fix was in, from the beginning to make sure we would have garbage numbers.
What "fix"? Seriously, what motivation is there to "fix" death totals? You can see just from the number of excess deaths recorded last year that the COVID death numbers are not inflated.


It wasn't created to hurt Donald Trump. The numbers aren't inflated to hurt Donald Trump. Trump failed in his response and it cost him the election.


1. Your pretense that you are unaware of the usefulness of covid and the shutdown for your side, politically, makes you look not credible.

2. When you accept guesses, and with as from AND give out more money for covid, the numbers cannot be trusted.

3. You claim there was no motive to do this, and in the same post use it to attack Trump politically. LOL!!!
Pointing out facts is not "attacking him politically", it's pointing out the FACT of his failed response.

How do you explain that we have roughly the same number of excess deaths as the reported number of COVID deaths? Explain that one away with one of your ludicrous conspiracy theories.


Dude. YOu gin up bad numbers, and then blame them on your enemy.


People do that with statistics all the time. THe only slight variation here, is that instead of just massaging the numbers, you are interfering with the gathering of the data.


YOur pretense that this is... out of the question, is just you being silly.

Knock it off.
What bad numbers? We have had over 400,000 excess deaths in 2020...which matches up with the COVID death total. COVID is killing Americans at a rate of thousands per day. This is reality. You wanting to deny that fact, for what possible reason escapes normal people, is just sick.


What bad numbers?

The bad numbers I have been talking about with you for days.


That bit, where you ignore that a point has been answered, and pretend it was not, and just reassert your initial position?


That is the logical fallacy of proof by assertion, and is a tactic you use, when you know that the truth is, that you are wrong.


By using such a tactic,, you have implicitly admitted that you know that the numbers were ginned up to give you people a club to beat Trump with.
You have provide ZERO proof that the "numbers are bad".

The reported death totals are supported by the number of excess deaths we have experienced in the United States.

COVID is killing Americans at a rate of thousands per day. This is not "ginned up". You're a crackpot.
The pandemic is global.
US Blue Cities are magnets for international business and gangs so more people got sick and died.
Yes, it's a pandemic. It means it would have gotten here one way or the other. And?
And Trump is not to blame.
Nobody is blaming him for the virus...just the horrific response to it.
 

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What he is achieving is simply astounding. Who would have imagined that Donald Trump would be the one to save the U.S. Constitution?

San Francisco Is Suddenly for States Rights When It Comes to Deporting Illegal Aliens
So you're supporting San Francisco claiming states rights under the Constitution?
Isn't that the same argument that SF and the democrats used to justify their ability to identify as a sanctuary city? I don't see this as being a change.
 

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President Trump is doing something that not only has no other politician ever been able to achieve - but nobody even thought it was possible. He is getting the idealistic, immature, left-wing hatriots to respect and embrace the U.S. Constitution. This statement by one of the hardline Hollywood progressives is nothing short of astounding. It literally left Tucker Carlson speechless...
I have withdrawn from partisan politics. I am a constitutionalist who believes that the Constitution and the Bill of Rights must be central and the parties must be peripheral. What’s most important for me is what you just mentioned haphazardly, we are over 30. Civics has not been taught in the American public school system since 1970. And that means everyone in Congress never studied the constitution and the bill of rights as you and I might have. - Richard Dreyfuss
See the astonishing reason actor Richard Dreyfuss left Tucker Carlson absolutely speechless
The headline on the OP is true. President Trump might be the greatest president of all time in the same way that Howard Cosell was the greatest sports broadcaster of all time.
Approriate handle.
 

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Studies based on garbage numbers come up with garbage conclusions.

THe fix was in, from the beginning to make sure we would have garbage numbers.
What "fix"? Seriously, what motivation is there to "fix" death totals? You can see just from the number of excess deaths recorded last year that the COVID death numbers are not inflated.


It wasn't created to hurt Donald Trump. The numbers aren't inflated to hurt Donald Trump. Trump failed in his response and it cost him the election.


1. Your pretense that you are unaware of the usefulness of covid and the shutdown for your side, politically, makes you look not credible.

2. When you accept guesses, and with as from AND give out more money for covid, the numbers cannot be trusted.

3. You claim there was no motive to do this, and in the same post use it to attack Trump politically. LOL!!!
Pointing out facts is not "attacking him politically", it's pointing out the FACT of his failed response.

How do you explain that we have roughly the same number of excess deaths as the reported number of COVID deaths? Explain that one away with one of your ludicrous conspiracy theories.


Dude. YOu gin up bad numbers, and then blame them on your enemy.


People do that with statistics all the time. THe only slight variation here, is that instead of just massaging the numbers, you are interfering with the gathering of the data.


YOur pretense that this is... out of the question, is just you being silly.

Knock it off.
What bad numbers? We have had over 400,000 excess deaths in 2020...which matches up with the COVID death total. COVID is killing Americans at a rate of thousands per day. This is reality. You wanting to deny that fact, for what possible reason escapes normal people, is just sick.


What bad numbers?

The bad numbers I have been talking about with you for days.


That bit, where you ignore that a point has been answered, and pretend it was not, and just reassert your initial position?


That is the logical fallacy of proof by assertion, and is a tactic you use, when you know that the truth is, that you are wrong.


By using such a tactic,, you have implicitly admitted that you know that the numbers were ginned up to give you people a club to beat Trump with.
You have provide ZERO proof that the "numbers are bad".

The reported death totals are supported by the number of excess deaths we have experienced in the United States.

COVID is killing Americans at a rate of thousands per day. This is not "ginned up". You're a crackpot.
The pandemic is global.
US Blue Cities are magnets for international business and gangs so more people got sick and died.
Yes, it's a pandemic. It means it would have gotten here one way or the other. And?
And Trump is not to blame.
Nobody is blaming him for the virus...just the horrific response to it.
That’s the NEW lie.
 

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Studies based on garbage numbers come up with garbage conclusions.

THe fix was in, from the beginning to make sure we would have garbage numbers.
What "fix"? Seriously, what motivation is there to "fix" death totals? You can see just from the number of excess deaths recorded last year that the COVID death numbers are not inflated.


It wasn't created to hurt Donald Trump. The numbers aren't inflated to hurt Donald Trump. Trump failed in his response and it cost him the election.


1. Your pretense that you are unaware of the usefulness of covid and the shutdown for your side, politically, makes you look not credible.

2. When you accept guesses, and with as from AND give out more money for covid, the numbers cannot be trusted.

3. You claim there was no motive to do this, and in the same post use it to attack Trump politically. LOL!!!
Pointing out facts is not "attacking him politically", it's pointing out the FACT of his failed response.

How do you explain that we have roughly the same number of excess deaths as the reported number of COVID deaths? Explain that one away with one of your ludicrous conspiracy theories.


Dude. YOu gin up bad numbers, and then blame them on your enemy.


People do that with statistics all the time. THe only slight variation here, is that instead of just massaging the numbers, you are interfering with the gathering of the data.


YOur pretense that this is... out of the question, is just you being silly.

Knock it off.
What bad numbers? We have had over 400,000 excess deaths in 2020...which matches up with the COVID death total. COVID is killing Americans at a rate of thousands per day. This is reality. You wanting to deny that fact, for what possible reason escapes normal people, is just sick.


What bad numbers?

The bad numbers I have been talking about with you for days.


That bit, where you ignore that a point has been answered, and pretend it was not, and just reassert your initial position?


That is the logical fallacy of proof by assertion, and is a tactic you use, when you know that the truth is, that you are wrong.


By using such a tactic,, you have implicitly admitted that you know that the numbers were ginned up to give you people a club to beat Trump with.
You have provide ZERO proof that the "numbers are bad".

The reported death totals are supported by the number of excess deaths we have experienced in the United States.

COVID is killing Americans at a rate of thousands per day. This is not "ginned up". You're a crackpot.
The pandemic is global.
US Blue Cities are magnets for international business and gangs so more people got sick and died.
Yes, it's a pandemic. It means it would have gotten here one way or the other. And?
And Trump is not to blame.
Nobody is blaming him for the virus...just the horrific response to it.
That’s the NEW lie.

They have to backtrack now, because now the buck stops with Biden.
 

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