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There has not been massive fraud enough to change the outcome of a presidential election.
How the fuck could you possibly know that? You couldn't know that. Nobody could. So you're just making shit up (as usual).
Of course we know. It was investigated by Twice Impeached Trump’s own Department of Justice.

“to date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election.” ~ William Barr, former Attorney General

Which is dumb. It is silly to think that all fraud was found.


The point is the widespread fraud is done for a reason. TO effect an outcome in the election.


Evidence of widespread fraud indicates the need for more information.

Trump has been claiming the system is rigged against him for 40 years.. This crap isn't new for him.
 

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On both sides of the issue of historical statues.


He also clearly, and repeatedly and explicitly excluded the ws from that grouping.


You libs lied about it them and are still lying about it now.


That you lie like that, shows that you know you are the bad guys.


That you are able to make it stick, shows that nothing you say or report can be trusted. You are very good liars, willing to say ANYTHING, and stick to it, as a group, to give it the illusion of credibility.
All he had to do was condemn the violence and the white supremacists and STFU...but he CAN'T. Everything has to come with a qualifier. Just say racists are bad and STOP. Don't talk about "very fine people". Tell the terrorists to go home and STOP. Don't tell them you love them.

His points about the leftists being violent also AND the non-violent pro-statue people were both correct and valid and should have been said and should have been listened to also.


The Leftist were at least half the problem. And the vast majority of people that support the statues are NOT ws.


Ignoring either of those facts, would be wrong, morally and practically.


My point though, was just to use that as proof of how good at lying your side has become.


The President said one thing, and you people have convinced the world that he said the exact opposite.


That reveals both an intent to lie and a capability that we must never forget.



NOTHING that serves the agenda of the Left can ever be trusted. They/you have demonstrated a willingness to lie and a terrifying effective ability to make lies stick.
We get that you have convinced yourself of that, but you’re not convincing the rest of the world who sees Donald Trump for what he is. A self-serving, narcissistic, bloated, borderline racist, one term, loser.
 

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There has not been massive fraud enough to change the outcome of a presidential election.
How the fuck could you possibly know that? You couldn't know that. Nobody could. So you're just making shit up (as usual).
Of course we know. It was investigated by Twice Impeached Trump’s own Department of Justice.

“to date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election.” ~ William Barr, former Attorney General

Which is dumb. It is silly to think that all fraud was found.


The point is the widespread fraud is done for a reason. TO effect an outcome in the election.


Evidence of widespread fraud indicates the need for more information.
That’s the point. There is zero evidence of widespread fraud. Zero!
 

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Trump made a bigger mess of the Republican Party than he did of the US and he really screwed America making it the epicenter of the worst pandemic in 100 years. The Republican Party is exposed.


Your side is literally using violent thugs in the streets and arresting people for defending themselves, in one case for running away.


YOU WAKE UP.
The people who attacked the Capitol and tried to overturn the election are mostly being arrested back in their home towns not in the street.

My point was, obviously about your sides alliance with BLM and Antifa over the last few years.

YOur side is the one that is using fascist tactics and normalizing political violence.


My point stands.
After the complete and total failure by both Bush and Trump, with both leaving office in total disgrace, shame, and failure (with the country in ruins both now and in 2008), republicans can never ever criticize democrats ever again.

The GOP needs to have actual success before they can criticize, and the GOP has had minimal success for the entire 21st century.

If you voted for Bush and Trump you should be thrown in Gitmo for treason.

Shame on you, shame on every Bush and trump supporter, a total disgrace.

Trump was doing fine, despite the insane and hysterical "Resistance" from people like you, until covid hit.


Your...hysterical overreaction is just you being a liar and trying to distract from your side's crimes.
"trump was doing fine"...............:heehee:
Lowest approval rating since Carter isn’t “fine” by a long shot. He really could’ve been reelected however if he had just taken COVID seriously. COVID didn’t kill his presidency, his dismal response to it did.


Nothing Trump did, was ever good enough, according to the liars in the press.


He could have touched the sick with hands glowing with holy light, healing them all, and you people would have invented some bullshit reason to attack him.


Trump was doing fine, despite the insane and hysterical "Resistance" from people like you, until covid hit.


Your...hysterical overreaction is just you being a liar and trying to distract from your side's crimes.
Trump has been half-assed his whole life.. Remember right after he took office when he gave up Israeli intelligence assets to the Russians? He was just showing off because he wanted to impress them.

I made a point in the post you "replied" to.

IN your "reply" you did not address it at all.

Thus, you admit that you cannot refute it, or even TRY to refute it.

It is thus the last word, until such a point as one of you grow some balls.


Here it is again.




Nothing Trump did, was ever good enough, according to the liars in the press.


He could have touched the sick with hands glowing with holy light, healing them all, and you people would have invented some bullshit reason to attack him.


Trump was doing fine, despite the insane and hysterical "Resistance" from people like you, until covid hit.


Your...hysterical overreaction is just you being a liar and trying to distract from your side's crimes.
Trump was never "doing fine". Worst approval ratings since Carter before his mob stormed the capitol. Now he's worst in modern history.

His terrible response to COVID sealed it for him. He lost and has no one to blame but himself.

I made a point that nothing he did, would have been good enough for you people and that the media would have spun it negatively no matter what.


Your response was to ignore that point and just keep reasserting your position.


That is the act of someone who knows that his argument has been refuted, but is not enough of a man to admit it.


Man up, Seawytch,, admit it. I expect better from you.
You made a stupid comment I chose to ignore. Plenty he could have done would have been "good enough" . The biggest thing he could have done that would have been "good enough" for me was treat COVID seriously. He didn't. Far from it.

If you were serious about that, you would have admitted that my point was valid generally speaking, especially about the media, while claiming an individual exception.


That you glossed over the fact of the completely partisanship of the media and big tech, greatly undermines your credibility.
No, actually I wouldn't. Your comments about "the media" and "big tech" are tinfoil delusions. I get you're upset with the media for reporting on the things that Trump actually did and actually said, but that's misplaced anger. Be mad at him for doing and saying them. Same for "big tech". Don't violate the TOS, you don't get banned.

The way that the Left managed to sell the Charlottesville, Very Fine People lie, proves that your defense of the Media and Big Tech is nonsense.


We cannot have free and fair elections when the people are that misinformed.


It is theft by fraud, on your part.
They didn't have to sell anything. They just, again, reported on the stupid things he says.

If that was true, they would not have lied about what he said at Charlottesville.


He explicitly stated that ws were bad people and the media reported the exact opposite.

And you people are still, generally speaking, supporting that lie.
No Trump said there were good people on both sides.

Trump is a pitiful buffoon. He doesn't have a clue how civilized people behave.



Trump explicitly stated that ws were bad people, and you faggot whores lied and are still lying.


By the act of lying, you show that, on some level, you know that your claims and positions are false and you cannot win the contest of ideas, based on the merits of your arguments or policies.
Do you remember how Trump "marveled" at how graciously he was treated by Obama and Michelle during his transition?

No. I don't generally bother hanging off of every little word of politicians.


My point stands.


Everytime a lib lies like the media did with Charlotesville, they are admitting that they know they cannot win by telling the truth.
You you are blissfully unaware of what a stupid, vulgar clod Trump is.

If that was true, you libs would not have to lie, like you did with Charlotesville.


Your actions prove that you know what you claimed is bullshit.
The lies are yours and Twice Impeached Trump's, the piece of shit whose balls are dunked in your mouth. It was a racist rally that was organized, sponsored, promoted and attended by racists. There were no "very fine" people on the right there.

:suck:

The President disagreed. He thought there were people there who were NOT ws but supported the statues.


Your side lied. He was explicit in saying that ws were bad people.


You are lying still.
Nice to see you think you're a mind reader now. :lmao:

He explicitly stated he position. He explicitly said that ws were bad people. He explicitly stated that he was referring to the issue of historical statues.


Your side reported that he said the exact opposite of what he actually said.


THat is not me mindreading. That is me reading what he actually said, and noticing that your side is lying.


YOu are a fucking liar.
LOL

Imbecile, claiming "he thought there were people there who were NOT ws," is claiming you can read his "thoughts." You don't even have a brain where you can read your own thoughts, no less, anyone else's.

:abgg2q.jpg:


When a person expresses his opinion in words, he is revealing his thoughts on the matter.


Thus it is possible to make a point about what he thought based on his words.


That you are pretending to not know this, is insanely pathetic stonewalling and gaslighting on your part.


My point stands.


He explicitly stated he position. He explicitly said that ws were bad people. He explicitly stated that he was referring to the issue of historical statues.


Your side reported that he said the exact opposite of what he actually said.


THat is not me mindreading. That is me reading what he actually said, and noticing that your side is lying.


YOu are a fucking liar.
His thoughts were there were "very fine people" among a group of racists.
And I doubt there are very many people who want to see statues of traitors kept in place that aren’t a little bit racist, especially the ones that actually get their fat asses off their couch to protest in favor of it. Just sayin’....
 

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There has not been massive fraud enough to change the outcome of a presidential election.
How the fuck could you possibly know that? You couldn't know that. Nobody could. So you're just making shit up (as usual).
Of course we know. It was investigated by Twice Impeached Trump’s own Department of Justice.

“to date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election.” ~ William Barr, former Attorney General

Which is dumb. It is silly to think that all fraud was found.


The point is the widespread fraud is done for a reason. TO effect an outcome in the election.


Evidence of widespread fraud indicates the need for more information.
Waaaaaaa Waaaaaa !!!
it was fraud it was fraud.

Do you even know how pathetic you sound? Crying over fraud that didn't happen, with no eivdence of fraud and all these people and courts coming out saying no fraud.

Waaaaa waaaaa it's all a global conspiracy against Trump. You people are pathetic.

At least lose with dignity.

Enjoy the Biden presidency, Trump has done such a terrible job with covid that Biden will easily do a much better job and he will look like the hero.

Once the virus is gone the economy will start booming and sleepy Joe will be another Bill clinton.

How come all the good presidents are democrats and all the failed presidents are republicans???
 

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There has not been massive fraud enough to change the outcome of a presidential election.
How the fuck could you possibly know that? You couldn't know that. Nobody could. So you're just making shit up (as usual).
Of course we know. It was investigated by Twice Impeached Trump’s own Department of Justice.

“to date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election.” ~ William Barr, former Attorney General

Which is dumb. It is silly to think that all fraud was found.


The point is the widespread fraud is done for a reason. TO effect an outcome in the election.


Evidence of widespread fraud indicates the need for more information.
What a dumbfuck you are. Barr never said all fraud was found. From where did you even get that silly notion? Again, what he did say was up until that date, they had not found enough widespread fraud to change the outcome of the election. Shortly after that, a spokeswoman from the Department of Justice added to that saying they were still looking to see if they could find more evidence of fraud. Apparently, they still never found enough to change the outcome of the election.
 

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Trump made a bigger mess of the Republican Party than he did of the US and he really screwed America making it the epicenter of the worst pandemic in 100 years. The Republican Party is exposed.


Your side is literally using violent thugs in the streets and arresting people for defending themselves, in one case for running away.


YOU WAKE UP.
The people who attacked the Capitol and tried to overturn the election are mostly being arrested back in their home towns not in the street.

My point was, obviously about your sides alliance with BLM and Antifa over the last few years.

YOur side is the one that is using fascist tactics and normalizing political violence.


My point stands.
After the complete and total failure by both Bush and Trump, with both leaving office in total disgrace, shame, and failure (with the country in ruins both now and in 2008), republicans can never ever criticize democrats ever again.

The GOP needs to have actual success before they can criticize, and the GOP has had minimal success for the entire 21st century.

If you voted for Bush and Trump you should be thrown in Gitmo for treason.

Shame on you, shame on every Bush and trump supporter, a total disgrace.

Trump was doing fine, despite the insane and hysterical "Resistance" from people like you, until covid hit.


Your...hysterical overreaction is just you being a liar and trying to distract from your side's crimes.
"trump was doing fine"...............:heehee:
Lowest approval rating since Carter isn’t “fine” by a long shot. He really could’ve been reelected however if he had just taken COVID seriously. COVID didn’t kill his presidency, his dismal response to it did.


Nothing Trump did, was ever good enough, according to the liars in the press.


He could have touched the sick with hands glowing with holy light, healing them all, and you people would have invented some bullshit reason to attack him.


Trump was doing fine, despite the insane and hysterical "Resistance" from people like you, until covid hit.


Your...hysterical overreaction is just you being a liar and trying to distract from your side's crimes.
Trump has been half-assed his whole life.. Remember right after he took office when he gave up Israeli intelligence assets to the Russians? He was just showing off because he wanted to impress them.

I made a point in the post you "replied" to.

IN your "reply" you did not address it at all.

Thus, you admit that you cannot refute it, or even TRY to refute it.

It is thus the last word, until such a point as one of you grow some balls.


Here it is again.




Nothing Trump did, was ever good enough, according to the liars in the press.


He could have touched the sick with hands glowing with holy light, healing them all, and you people would have invented some bullshit reason to attack him.


Trump was doing fine, despite the insane and hysterical "Resistance" from people like you, until covid hit.


Your...hysterical overreaction is just you being a liar and trying to distract from your side's crimes.
Trump was never "doing fine". Worst approval ratings since Carter before his mob stormed the capitol. Now he's worst in modern history.

His terrible response to COVID sealed it for him. He lost and has no one to blame but himself.

I made a point that nothing he did, would have been good enough for you people and that the media would have spun it negatively no matter what.


Your response was to ignore that point and just keep reasserting your position.


That is the act of someone who knows that his argument has been refuted, but is not enough of a man to admit it.


Man up, Seawytch,, admit it. I expect better from you.
You made a stupid comment I chose to ignore. Plenty he could have done would have been "good enough" . The biggest thing he could have done that would have been "good enough" for me was treat COVID seriously. He didn't. Far from it.

If you were serious about that, you would have admitted that my point was valid generally speaking, especially about the media, while claiming an individual exception.


That you glossed over the fact of the completely partisanship of the media and big tech, greatly undermines your credibility.
No, actually I wouldn't. Your comments about "the media" and "big tech" are tinfoil delusions. I get you're upset with the media for reporting on the things that Trump actually did and actually said, but that's misplaced anger. Be mad at him for doing and saying them. Same for "big tech". Don't violate the TOS, you don't get banned.

The way that the Left managed to sell the Charlottesville, Very Fine People lie, proves that your defense of the Media and Big Tech is nonsense.


We cannot have free and fair elections when the people are that misinformed.


It is theft by fraud, on your part.
They didn't have to sell anything. They just, again, reported on the stupid things he says.

If that was true, they would not have lied about what he said at Charlottesville.


He explicitly stated that ws were bad people and the media reported the exact opposite.

And you people are still, generally speaking, supporting that lie.
No Trump said there were good people on both sides.

Trump is a pitiful buffoon. He doesn't have a clue how civilized people behave.



Trump explicitly stated that ws were bad people, and you faggot whores lied and are still lying.


By the act of lying, you show that, on some level, you know that your claims and positions are false and you cannot win the contest of ideas, based on the merits of your arguments or policies.
Do you remember how Trump "marveled" at how graciously he was treated by Obama and Michelle during his transition?

No. I don't generally bother hanging off of every little word of politicians.


My point stands.


Everytime a lib lies like the media did with Charlotesville, they are admitting that they know they cannot win by telling the truth.
You you are blissfully unaware of what a stupid, vulgar clod Trump is.

If that was true, you libs would not have to lie, like you did with Charlotesville.


Your actions prove that you know what you claimed is bullshit.
The lies are yours and Twice Impeached Trump's, the piece of shit whose balls are dunked in your mouth. It was a racist rally that was organized, sponsored, promoted and attended by racists. There were no "very fine" people on the right there.

:suck:

The President disagreed. He thought there were people there who were NOT ws but supported the statues.


Your side lied. He was explicit in saying that ws were bad people.


You are lying still.
Nice to see you think you're a mind reader now. :lmao:

He explicitly stated he position. He explicitly said that ws were bad people. He explicitly stated that he was referring to the issue of historical statues.


Your side reported that he said the exact opposite of what he actually said.


THat is not me mindreading. That is me reading what he actually said, and noticing that your side is lying.


YOu are a fucking liar.
LOL

Imbecile, claiming "he thought there were people there who were NOT ws," is claiming you can read his "thoughts." You don't even have a brain where you can read your own thoughts, no less, anyone else's.

:abgg2q.jpg:


When a person expresses his opinion in words, he is revealing his thoughts on the matter.


Thus it is possible to make a point about what he thought based on his words.


That you are pretending to not know this, is insanely pathetic stonewalling and gaslighting on your part.


My point stands.


He explicitly stated he position. He explicitly said that ws were bad people. He explicitly stated that he was referring to the issue of historical statues.


Your side reported that he said the exact opposite of what he actually said.


THat is not me mindreading. That is me reading what he actually said, and noticing that your side is lying.


YOu are a fucking liar.
His thoughts were there were "very fine people" among a group of racists.

I based my point on his stated position.


You are the one making up shit.


FUCK YOU.
You based that on your desire to suck his cock as he never said what you claim he was thinking. You just can't help yourself but defend that piece of shit. He said there were very fine people on the side which was comprised by racists who organized, sponsored, arranged, participated and attended that event.

[edit: interestingly enough, some of the people who attended that racist Unite the Right rally, which led to one death and many more injured; also stormed the Capitol which led to 5 deaths and many more injured. Those are the people you defend]
 
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There has not been massive fraud enough to change the outcome of a presidential election.
How the fuck could you possibly know that? You couldn't know that. Nobody could. So you're just making shit up (as usual).
Of course we know. It was investigated by Twice Impeached Trump’s own Department of Justice.

“to date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election.” ~ William Barr, former Attorney General

Which is dumb. It is silly to think that all fraud was found.


The point is the widespread fraud is done for a reason. TO effect an outcome in the election.


Evidence of widespread fraud indicates the need for more information.
Waaaaaaa Waaaaaa !!!
it was fraud it was fraud.

Do you even know how pathetic you sound? Crying over fraud that didn't happen, with no eivdence of fraud and all these people and courts coming out saying no fraud.

Waaaaa waaaaa it's all a global conspiracy against Trump. You people are pathetic.

At least lose with dignity.

Enjoy the Biden presidency, Trump has done such a terrible job with covid that Biden will easily do a much better job and he will look like the hero.

Once the virus is gone the economy will start booming and sleepy Joe will be another Bill clinton.

How come all the good presidents are democrats and all the failed presidents are republicans???
They never had any dignity with which to lose.
 

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On both sides of the issue of historical statues.


He also clearly, and repeatedly and explicitly excluded the ws from that grouping.


You libs lied about it them and are still lying about it now.


That you lie like that, shows that you know you are the bad guys.


That you are able to make it stick, shows that nothing you say or report can be trusted. You are very good liars, willing to say ANYTHING, and stick to it, as a group, to give it the illusion of credibility.
All he had to do was condemn the violence and the white supremacists and STFU...but he CAN'T. Everything has to come with a qualifier. Just say racists are bad and STOP. Don't talk about "very fine people". Tell the terrorists to go home and STOP. Don't tell them you love them.

His points about the leftists being violent also AND the non-violent pro-statue people were both correct and valid and should have been said and should have been listened to also.


The Leftist were at least half the problem. And the vast majority of people that support the statues are NOT ws.


Ignoring either of those facts, would be wrong, morally and practically.


My point though, was just to use that as proof of how good at lying your side has become.


The President said one thing, and you people have convinced the world that he said the exact opposite.


That reveals both an intent to lie and a capability that we must never forget.



NOTHING that serves the agenda of the Left can ever be trusted. They/you have demonstrated a willingness to lie and a terrifying effective ability to make lies stick.
We get that you have convinced yourself of that, but you’re not convincing the rest of the world who sees Donald Trump for what he is. A self-serving, narcissistic, bloated, borderline racist, one term, loser.
What is that old joke.. If they are running you out of town on a rail, pretend you are leading a parade??
 
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Nothing happened to it. It happened but it didn't rise to the level of criminal conspiracy. And?
But you just said that no election has ever been compromised by voter fraud because there isn't enough. So Russia couldn't have interfered with the elections to the point that it caused President Trump to win. Oops.
 
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I don't know who you are trying to convince other than yourself. Most of America and the rest of the world know what an unmitigated disaster his presidency was.
The only people who consider President Trump's administration an "unmitigated disaster" are anti-American fascists.

By any metric, President Trump was one of the three most remarkable presidents in US history. Record market highs. Record market lows. Not a single war. Four historic peace agreements. Trillions repatriated by corporations thanks to his tax break. Manufacturing at decades long highs. It just goes on and on and on.
 

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Nothing happened to it. It happened but it didn't rise to the level of criminal conspiracy. And?
But you just said that no election has ever been compromised by voter fraud because there isn't enough. So Russia couldn't have interfered with the elections to the point that it caused President Trump to win. Oops.
That wasn't voter fraud, that was collusion with a foreign country.
 

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I don't know who you are trying to convince other than yourself. Most of America and the rest of the world know what an unmitigated disaster his presidency was.
The only people who consider President Trump's administration an "unmitigated disaster" are anti-American fascists.

By any metric, President Trump was one of the three most remarkable presidents in US history. Record market highs. Record market lows. Not a single war. Four historic peace agreements. Trillions repatriated by corporations thanks to his tax break. Manufacturing at decades long highs. It just goes on and on and on.
:lol: Ah, so now the majority of Americans and pretty much the whole world are "anti American fascists"? You're getting more sad and pathetic by the moment...kind of like your cult leader, Trump. :lol:
 

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President Trump is doing something that not only has no other politician ever been able to achieve - but nobody even thought it was possible. He is getting the idealistic, immature, left-wing hatriots to respect and embrace the U.S. Constitution. This statement by one of the hardline Hollywood progressives is nothing short of astounding. It literally left Tucker Carlson speechless...
I have withdrawn from partisan politics. I am a constitutionalist who believes that the Constitution and the Bill of Rights must be central and the parties must be peripheral. What’s most important for me is what you just mentioned haphazardly, we are over 30. Civics has not been taught in the American public school system since 1970. And that means everyone in Congress never studied the constitution and the bill of rights as you and I might have. - Richard Dreyfuss
See the astonishing reason actor Richard Dreyfuss left Tucker Carlson absolutely speechless
Lol in what world do trump cultists live in?

Every channel I tune in to, friends and family members all over the world, their FB feeds they all celebrated the departure of the dumbest most erratic asshole to ever make it to the White House.
What a fucking nightmare that was.
 

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They taught the Constitution and Bill of rights when I was in civics class in 1975..
I was there in '69 and saw exactly what they thought about many things including the Constitution which they only talk about if they think it can be twisted to fit their agenda. Bullspit!
 

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As one Trump action after another gets ruled unconstitutional, it's apparent that it's not America's kids who need most to study the document.
Right. It's apparent there are courts that should actually read it. And it behooves us all to remember that the courts are a part of government. You know that thing that was supposed to serve the people; not itself?
 

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There has not been massive fraud enough to change the outcome of a presidential election.
How the fuck could you possibly know that? You couldn't know that. Nobody could. So you're just making shit up (as usual).
Of course we know. It was investigated by Twice Impeached Trump’s own Department of Justice.

“to date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election.” ~ William Barr, former Attorney General

Which is dumb. It is silly to think that all fraud was found.


The point is the widespread fraud is done for a reason. TO effect an outcome in the election.


Evidence of widespread fraud indicates the need for more information.

Trump has been claiming the system is rigged against him for 40 years.. This crap isn't new for him.

That someone has long standing complaints is not evidence that the complaints are not valid.


Obviously.


I mean, did that sound reasonable in your head, or are you just gaslighting?
 

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On both sides of the issue of historical statues.


He also clearly, and repeatedly and explicitly excluded the ws from that grouping.


You libs lied about it them and are still lying about it now.


That you lie like that, shows that you know you are the bad guys.


That you are able to make it stick, shows that nothing you say or report can be trusted. You are very good liars, willing to say ANYTHING, and stick to it, as a group, to give it the illusion of credibility.
All he had to do was condemn the violence and the white supremacists and STFU...but he CAN'T. Everything has to come with a qualifier. Just say racists are bad and STOP. Don't talk about "very fine people". Tell the terrorists to go home and STOP. Don't tell them you love them.

His points about the leftists being violent also AND the non-violent pro-statue people were both correct and valid and should have been said and should have been listened to also.


The Leftist were at least half the problem. And the vast majority of people that support the statues are NOT ws.


Ignoring either of those facts, would be wrong, morally and practically.


My point though, was just to use that as proof of how good at lying your side has become.


The President said one thing, and you people have convinced the world that he said the exact opposite.


That reveals both an intent to lie and a capability that we must never forget.



NOTHING that serves the agenda of the Left can ever be trusted. They/you have demonstrated a willingness to lie and a terrifying effective ability to make lies stick.
We get that you have convinced yourself of that, but you’re not convincing the rest of the world who sees Donald Trump for what he is. A self-serving, narcissistic, bloated, borderline racist, one term, loser.


THe full text of the speech, which proves my claims about what TRump said, have been repeatedly linked and excerpted to this site.

The fact that you admit that despite that, that the "rest of the world" is convinced of the lie,


validates my point about how powerful you side's Lying Machine is.


We cannot have a Free and Fair Election, when one side is able to sell such blatant and obvious and poisonous lies about the other.


No Free Elections, means the country itself is not Free.


You are a Good Little German.
 

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There has not been massive fraud enough to change the outcome of a presidential election.
How the fuck could you possibly know that? You couldn't know that. Nobody could. So you're just making shit up (as usual).
Of course we know. It was investigated by Twice Impeached Trump’s own Department of Justice.

“to date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election.” ~ William Barr, former Attorney General

Which is dumb. It is silly to think that all fraud was found.


The point is the widespread fraud is done for a reason. TO effect an outcome in the election.


Evidence of widespread fraud indicates the need for more information.
That’s the point. There is zero evidence of widespread fraud. Zero!

Funny. The quote was that there was not evidence of enough fraud to swing the election.

Yet you either failed to read that properly or your brain lied to you, (confirmation bias) to protect your fragile world view.


My point stands. The point of fraud is to swing the election. If we see evidence of fraud, then an investigation to see how much more there was that was not found, in the rushed initial look, is reasonable.


Just assuming that what you see is all there is, is madness.


This country is like a man waking in bed and seeing smoke building up on the ceiling, and going back to sleep because, just a little smoke, is not proof of fire somewhere.
 

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Trump made a bigger mess of the Republican Party than he did of the US and he really screwed America making it the epicenter of the worst pandemic in 100 years. The Republican Party is exposed.


Your side is literally using violent thugs in the streets and arresting people for defending themselves, in one case for running away.


YOU WAKE UP.
The people who attacked the Capitol and tried to overturn the election are mostly being arrested back in their home towns not in the street.

My point was, obviously about your sides alliance with BLM and Antifa over the last few years.

YOur side is the one that is using fascist tactics and normalizing political violence.


My point stands.
After the complete and total failure by both Bush and Trump, with both leaving office in total disgrace, shame, and failure (with the country in ruins both now and in 2008), republicans can never ever criticize democrats ever again.

The GOP needs to have actual success before they can criticize, and the GOP has had minimal success for the entire 21st century.

If you voted for Bush and Trump you should be thrown in Gitmo for treason.

Shame on you, shame on every Bush and trump supporter, a total disgrace.

Trump was doing fine, despite the insane and hysterical "Resistance" from people like you, until covid hit.


Your...hysterical overreaction is just you being a liar and trying to distract from your side's crimes.
"trump was doing fine"...............:heehee:
Lowest approval rating since Carter isn’t “fine” by a long shot. He really could’ve been reelected however if he had just taken COVID seriously. COVID didn’t kill his presidency, his dismal response to it did.


Nothing Trump did, was ever good enough, according to the liars in the press.


He could have touched the sick with hands glowing with holy light, healing them all, and you people would have invented some bullshit reason to attack him.


Trump was doing fine, despite the insane and hysterical "Resistance" from people like you, until covid hit.


Your...hysterical overreaction is just you being a liar and trying to distract from your side's crimes.
Trump has been half-assed his whole life.. Remember right after he took office when he gave up Israeli intelligence assets to the Russians? He was just showing off because he wanted to impress them.

I made a point in the post you "replied" to.

IN your "reply" you did not address it at all.

Thus, you admit that you cannot refute it, or even TRY to refute it.

It is thus the last word, until such a point as one of you grow some balls.


Here it is again.




Nothing Trump did, was ever good enough, according to the liars in the press.


He could have touched the sick with hands glowing with holy light, healing them all, and you people would have invented some bullshit reason to attack him.


Trump was doing fine, despite the insane and hysterical "Resistance" from people like you, until covid hit.


Your...hysterical overreaction is just you being a liar and trying to distract from your side's crimes.
Trump was never "doing fine". Worst approval ratings since Carter before his mob stormed the capitol. Now he's worst in modern history.

His terrible response to COVID sealed it for him. He lost and has no one to blame but himself.

I made a point that nothing he did, would have been good enough for you people and that the media would have spun it negatively no matter what.


Your response was to ignore that point and just keep reasserting your position.


That is the act of someone who knows that his argument has been refuted, but is not enough of a man to admit it.


Man up, Seawytch,, admit it. I expect better from you.
You made a stupid comment I chose to ignore. Plenty he could have done would have been "good enough" . The biggest thing he could have done that would have been "good enough" for me was treat COVID seriously. He didn't. Far from it.

If you were serious about that, you would have admitted that my point was valid generally speaking, especially about the media, while claiming an individual exception.


That you glossed over the fact of the completely partisanship of the media and big tech, greatly undermines your credibility.
No, actually I wouldn't. Your comments about "the media" and "big tech" are tinfoil delusions. I get you're upset with the media for reporting on the things that Trump actually did and actually said, but that's misplaced anger. Be mad at him for doing and saying them. Same for "big tech". Don't violate the TOS, you don't get banned.

The way that the Left managed to sell the Charlottesville, Very Fine People lie, proves that your defense of the Media and Big Tech is nonsense.


We cannot have free and fair elections when the people are that misinformed.


It is theft by fraud, on your part.
They didn't have to sell anything. They just, again, reported on the stupid things he says.

If that was true, they would not have lied about what he said at Charlottesville.


He explicitly stated that ws were bad people and the media reported the exact opposite.

And you people are still, generally speaking, supporting that lie.
No Trump said there were good people on both sides.

Trump is a pitiful buffoon. He doesn't have a clue how civilized people behave.



Trump explicitly stated that ws were bad people, and you faggot whores lied and are still lying.


By the act of lying, you show that, on some level, you know that your claims and positions are false and you cannot win the contest of ideas, based on the merits of your arguments or policies.
Do you remember how Trump "marveled" at how graciously he was treated by Obama and Michelle during his transition?

No. I don't generally bother hanging off of every little word of politicians.


My point stands.


Everytime a lib lies like the media did with Charlotesville, they are admitting that they know they cannot win by telling the truth.
You you are blissfully unaware of what a stupid, vulgar clod Trump is.

If that was true, you libs would not have to lie, like you did with Charlotesville.


Your actions prove that you know what you claimed is bullshit.
The lies are yours and Twice Impeached Trump's, the piece of shit whose balls are dunked in your mouth. It was a racist rally that was organized, sponsored, promoted and attended by racists. There were no "very fine" people on the right there.

:suck:

The President disagreed. He thought there were people there who were NOT ws but supported the statues.


Your side lied. He was explicit in saying that ws were bad people.


You are lying still.
Nice to see you think you're a mind reader now. :lmao:

He explicitly stated he position. He explicitly said that ws were bad people. He explicitly stated that he was referring to the issue of historical statues.


Your side reported that he said the exact opposite of what he actually said.


THat is not me mindreading. That is me reading what he actually said, and noticing that your side is lying.


YOu are a fucking liar.
LOL

Imbecile, claiming "he thought there were people there who were NOT ws," is claiming you can read his "thoughts." You don't even have a brain where you can read your own thoughts, no less, anyone else's.

:abgg2q.jpg:


When a person expresses his opinion in words, he is revealing his thoughts on the matter.


Thus it is possible to make a point about what he thought based on his words.


That you are pretending to not know this, is insanely pathetic stonewalling and gaslighting on your part.


My point stands.


He explicitly stated he position. He explicitly said that ws were bad people. He explicitly stated that he was referring to the issue of historical statues.


Your side reported that he said the exact opposite of what he actually said.


THat is not me mindreading. That is me reading what he actually said, and noticing that your side is lying.


YOu are a fucking liar.
His thoughts were there were "very fine people" among a group of racists.
And I doubt there are very many people who want to see statues of traitors kept in place that aren’t a little bit racist, especially the ones that actually get their fat asses off their couch to protest in favor of it. Just sayin’....
For 5 generations the children of this country were taught that those people were soldiers that did their duty, as they saw it, in a difficult and confusing time, and who should be celebrated as American Heroes.


It is legitimate if you want to disagree with that choice that was made.

Pretending that that did not happen, and judging those people, as though they agree with you, (that the men were traitors)

is you being being willfully ignorant of history.
 

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