Donald Trump All For Putting The Ten Commandments In Schools

[Couchpotato]

The Constitution is the prevailing document

States or local schools do not get to supersede it

So where in the Constitution does it require the Federal Government to be involved in education? Care to post that section? I must have missed it. The Federal Government doesn't HAVE to get involved it WANTS to be involved. Or more accurately some PEOPLE want it involved. I don't. It's not good at it, and it's a waste of time, money and Government focus. It also makes people concentrate on who's running the Federal Government far too much. The reality is who's President should be far less important to everyone than who their Governor or State rep is.

 

[rightwinger]

So where in the Constitution does it require the Federal Government to be involved in education? Care to post that section? I must have missed it. The Federal Government doesn't HAVE to get involved it WANTS to be involved. Or more accurately some PEOPLE want it involved. I don't. It's not good at it, and it's a waste of time, money and Government focus. It also makes people concentrate on who's running the Federal Government far too much. The reality is who's President should be far less important to everyone than who their Governor or State rep is.

First Amendment

Congress shall pass no laws respecting the establishment of religion

Applies to laws relating to schools also

 

[Couchpotato]

First Amendment

Congress shall pass no laws respecting the establishment of religion

Applies to laws relating to schools also

How does showing the 10 Commandments or any of the other things I said "ESTABLISH a religion"?

 

[skews13]

There is no separation between church and state. There is only a constitutional prohibition for the federal government to interfere with the people's expression/exercise of religious belief/faith. And a constitutional prohibition for any religious group to have any more authority or power than any other citizen group.

There should absolutely be no prohibition of posting the Ten Commandments (or any other historical document) in any classroom. There should also be absolutely no mandate to post such.

 

[rightwinger]

How does showing the 10 Commandments or any of the other things I said "ESTABLISH a religion"?

If you read the First Commandment…

I am the Lord thy God, you shall have no Gods before me

 

[Couchpotato]

First Amendment

Congress shall pass no laws respecting the establishment of religion

Applies to laws relating to schools also

I think you need to do quite a bit of reading on what the founders were talking about when they wrote the 1st Amendment.

 

[rightwinger]

I think you need to do quite a bit of reading on what the founders were talking about when they wrote the 1st Amendment.

Ummm…It is quite obvious Goober

 

[Couchpotato]

If you read the First Commandment…

I am the Lord thy God, you shall have no Gods before me

Which God? How does that establish one religion as the Federally mandated religion vs another? You are just fundamentally wrong on this subject. It's not freedom FROM religion.

 

[Couchpotato]

Ummm…It is quite obvious Goober

So why are you having such a hard time figuring it out?

 

[rightwinger]

So why are you having such a hard time figuring it out?

What part of…

Congress shall pass no laws respecting the establishment of religion

Didn’t you understand?

 

[rightwinger]

Which God? How does that establish one religion as the Federally mandated religion vs another? You are just fundamentally wrong on this subject. It's not freedom FROM religion.

It establishes the God of Moses as the one God above all others

Kind of supersedes those who follow other religions or no religion at all

 

[Nostra]

Follow the Constitution, Benito.

#MAGAISFASCIST

Where is "separation of church and state" found in the Constitution?

 

[Rawley]

..but not to be displayed, since they are religion-specific and, therefore, unconstitutional.

#SEPERATIONISATHING

What religion are they specific to?

 

[Nostra]

Was a law passed mandating the display at the Supreme Court

Congress shall pass no laws mandating religion

Congress didn't pass any such law, Moron.

 

[Nostra]

First Amendment

Congress shall pass no laws respecting the establishment of religion

Applies to laws relating to schools also

Congress didn't pass this law, Trollwinger

 

[Rawley]

What part of…

Congress shall pass no laws respecting the establishment of religion

Didn’t you understand?

How does it "establish" a religion?

 

[Couchpotato]

It establishes the God of Moses as the one God above all others

Kind of supersedes those who follow other religions or no religion at all

Displaying it doesn't require you to believe that.

The Ten Commandments (Exodus 20:2-17 NKJV)
1	“I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before Me.
2	“You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My Commandments.
3	“You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.
4	“Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.
5	“Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long upon the land which the Lord your God is giving you.
6	“You shall not murder.
7	“You shall not commit adultery.
8	“You shall not steal.
9	“You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
10	“You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor's.”

Did I just convert you?

Not to mention that the 10 Commandments isn't limited to a single religion in the first place. It's something held by Judaism, Christianity and Islam. So which religion is being established by displaying it?

 

[Nostra]

What part of…

Congress shall pass no laws respecting the establishment of religion

Didn’t you understand?

Link us up to this law establishing a national religion passed by Congress, Trollwinger.

 

[Foxfyre]

Then posting things from other religions should also be allowable.

`Posting from other religions that have historical significance in the development of laws, culture, geography, yes. It would likely apply to world history more than American history though.

 

[XponentialChaos]

That was my OPINION. The "I think" part of the sentence should have clued you in it being an opinion. Quit being so eager to disagree with what Im saying. If you just want to sling shit back and forth with someone Im sure Nostra will be happy to oblige. You two have been doing that for 5-6 pages now.

Don’t get pissy with me because I disagree with you.

I think your plan is stupid. Separating schools by religion, gay pride acceptance, and political ideologies would be a logistical nightmare, and beyond ridiculous.

I have a better idea. Allow all of the religious bullshit in schools or remove all of it. Your choice. Either is fine with me. Don’t like that? No problem, you can go to a private school.