Does the Constitution really give us inalienable rights that cannot be taken away?

[westwall]

westwall
Fascists in the government my arse.
There is No bill put forward wanting to disarm you. You are a liar. Piss off.

Sure there are. I own so called assault rifles. Your fascist leaders want to ban them. That would disarm me.

So you piss off. Moron.

 

[Colin norris]

westwall
Assault weapons are not your only arsenal are they. You own several guns for no reason.
You have no use whatsoever for a weapon specifically designed to kill things quickly. You have it because you are frightened of democrat governments. You don't need it for self protection. You have it because you can.
Basically you are an insecure little wimp.
Those killing machines as will eventually be taken and you will have no say in it. Don't think You will beat the military so you piss off.

 

[Sunsettommy]

We all seem to think our constitutional rights are etched in stone and cannot be violated. In fact they are at the whim of politicians who can justify taking them away with a stroke of the pen. George Carlin had an opinion on that..you think your rights are inviolate. He said if you do just go to Wikipedia and in the search box type in..Japanese-Americans 1942

You're wrong. It's not quite that simple. It can't be done by the stroke of a pen. They did it that way for a reason.

Japanese internment camps were established during World War II by President Franklin D. Roosevelt through his Executive Order 9066 = stroke of a pen

It was removed the next year because he realized it was going to be overturned as the illegal bullshit it was.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

We all seem to think our constitutional rights are etched in stone and cannot be violated. In fact they are at the whim of politicians who can justify taking them away with a stroke of the pen. George Carlin had an opinion on that..you think your rights are inviolate. He said if you do just go to Wikipedia and in the search box type in..Japanese-Americans 1942

Indeed. That's why the fascists in our government want to disarm us.

Gun control is not disarmament...it's gun requlation.

Can't march armed people to the concentration camps. So, no, you are wrong. As usual.

Not wrong..gun control is just gun regulation

Gun regulation inexorably leads to gun confiscation. 100% of the time. No gun registration scheme has ever NOT then led to confiscation.

True story. But that's history. And we all know you fascists try and hide, or rewrite history.

No, it doesn't.
The Tommy gun was banned in 1934, you need a license to own one.
Why didn't the government ban all weapons in the 87 years since?

 

[Pellinore]

We all seem to think our constitutional rights are etched in stone and cannot be violated. In fact they are at the whim of politicians who can justify taking them away with a stroke of the pen. George Carlin had an opinion on that..you think your rights are inviolate. He said if you do just go to Wikipedia and in the search box type in..Japanese-Americans 1942

Indeed. That's why the fascists in our government want to disarm us.

Gun control is not disarmament...it's gun requlation.

Can't march armed people to the concentration camps. So, no, you are wrong. As usual.

Not wrong..gun control is just gun regulation

Gun regulation inexorably leads to gun confiscation. 100% of the time. No gun registration scheme has ever NOT then led to confiscation.

True story. But that's history. And we all know you fascists try and hide, or rewrite history.

No, it doesn't.
The Tommy gun was banned in 1934, you need a license to own one.
Why didn't the government ban all weapons in the 87 years since?

You beat me to it.

Also, the Assault Weapons Ban from the 90s. It was enacted, it was in place for ten years, and then it went away. No inexorable confiscation.

 

[westwall]

westwall
Assault weapons are not your only arsenal are they. You own several guns for no reason.
You have no use whatsoever for a weapon specifically designed to kill things quickly. You have it because you are frightened of democrat governments. You don't need it for self protection. You have it because you can.
Basically you are an insecure little wimp.
Those killing machines as will eventually be taken and you will have no say in it. Don't think You will beat the military so you piss off.

I have every reason to own whatever I want. And the Rumanian fascist government was overthrown just a couple of decades ago, so yeah, the military would lose in a civil war. They are outnumbered over 10 to one.

And most would be on our side. Not yours.

So have fun dreaming your fascist fantasies.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Gun control is not disarmament...it's gun requlation.

Draconian gun regulation (Incremental style … one small step at a time.)

1) All civilian owned ”assault rifles“ are banned and must be turned in.

2) All civilian owned semi-automatic rifles and shotguns are banned and must be turned in.

3) All civilian owned semi-automatic pistols are banned and must be turned in.

4) All civilian owned handguns are banned and must be turned in.

5) A citizen can own no more than one single shot rifle and one single shot or double barreled shotgun if he has a license and insurance.

A license requires a psychological examination, a background check, approval by local law enforcement and a 40 hour gun safety course. The license itself will cost $500 per firearm and be good for a period of three years.

Gun owners realize this incremental approach is being used by gun control advocates and call it “the camels nose under the tent.”

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This fails as a slippery slope fallacy.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Sure there are. I own so called assault rifles. Your fascist leaders want to ban them. That would disarm me.

This is a lie and you’re a liar.

The Supreme Court has never ruled to invalidate AWBs, advocates of such ‘bans’ are misguided but they’re not ‘fascists.’

Moreover, those who support a Federal AWB constitute a tiny, unrepresentative fringe minority.

Last, it’s a lie to claim that state residents subject to an AWB are ‘disarmed.’

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Also, the Assault Weapons Ban from the 90s. It was enacted, it was in place for ten years, and then it went away. No inexorable confiscation.

Correct.

And there won’t be a ‘new’ AWB, no firearms will be ‘banned,’ no firearms will be ‘confiscated.’

Such is a ridiculous lie propagated by the dishonest right.

 

[Colin norris]

westwall
You have the guns because it does wonders for your ego. You have no need for it but the same old threat to take over the government.
Why don't you all line up and take back the government you say was stolen from trump? You've done nothing but cower in the corner.
The military would wipe out you Rambos in minutes. Grow up.

 

[Batcat]

Gun control is not disarmament...it's gun requlation.

Draconian gun regulation (Incremental style … one small step at a time.)

1) All civilian owned ”assault rifles“ are banned and must be turned in.

2) All civilian owned semi-automatic rifles and shotguns are banned and must be turned in.

3) All civilian owned semi-automatic pistols are banned and must be turned in.

4) All civilian owned handguns are banned and must be turned in.

5) A citizen can own no more than one single shot rifle and one single shot or double barreled shotgun if he has a license and insurance.

A license requires a psychological examination, a background check, approval by local law enforcement and a 40 hour gun safety course. The license itself will cost $500 per firearm and be good for a period of three years.

Gun owners realize this incremental approach is being used by gun control advocates and call it “the camels nose under the tent.”

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This fails as a slippery slope fallacy.

The fact that banning and confiscating civilian owned firearms has failed is not due to effort. The Big Bad NRA hasn’t really blocked it either.

The bottom line is the voters. Politicians know if they go too far the voters will boot them out of office. That’s why the favored approach is the incremental banning of firearms starting with the least popular, “assault rifles.”

Unfortunately the AR-15 is the most popular rifle in our nation and is selling like hot cakes. Even liberals are first time gun buyers since the democrats stupidly threw their police departments under the bus and crime is skyrocketing.

Americans Are Buying Guns Like Never Before, As FBI Background Checks Outpace Last Year

The Federal Bureau of Investigation reported a total of 3.22 million background checks in May 2021, meaning that 2021 is on track to break last year’s record for data based on gun sales.

www.forbes.com

 

[Batcat]

westwall
You have the guns because it does wonders for your ego. You have no need for it but the same old threat to take over the government.
Why don't you all line up and take back the government you say was stolen from trump? You've done nothing but cower in the corner.
The military would wipe out you Rambos in minutes. Grow up.

Joe Biden may be a senile old fart and Kamala Harris is proving herself to be incompetent but few people would call the Biden administration tyrannical or a dictatorship. Sane and rational people don’t start rebellions unless there is no other choice.

It does appear the democrats rigged the 2020 election but the proof is not in yet. The Arizona audit is finishing and other audits are being planned.

If enough election malfeasance is found across the nation to prove Trump did win the election who knows what will happen? I don’t necessarily see an uprising but I could be wrong.

As far as the Rambo comment just consider how well our big, bad military did in Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan.

How Gun Ownership Protects Citizens From An Abusive Government

Much like the effect of one vote, one gun will not stop tyranny. But many together can enact change and protect citizens.

thefederalist.com

 

[westwall]

westwall
You have the guns because it does wonders for your ego. You have no need for it but the same old threat to take over the government.
Why don't you all line up and take back the government you say was stolen from trump? You've done nothing but cower in the corner.
The military would wipe out you Rambos in minutes. Grow up.

My ego is just fine without guns. I find it amusing that you fascist loons are always so quick to commit violence.

I am not. So long as there is a chance to avoid a bloody Civil War I am happy to let the legal processes play out.

If the government continues to push its fascist agenda then there will be no choices left.

But I hope it doesn't come to that.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

We all seem to think our constitutional rights are etched in stone and cannot be violated. In fact they are at the whim of politicians who can justify taking them away with a stroke of the pen. George Carlin had an opinion on that..you think your rights are inviolate. He said if you do just go to Wikipedia and in the search box type in..Japanese-Americans 1942

No. The Constitution only RECOGNIZES them. When the government stops RECOGNIZING your rights they can certainly take them away by FORCE, but those rights are still GOD GIVEN and you still have them.

 

[BlackSand]

Assault weapons are not your only arsenal are they. You own several guns for no reason.

.

Sweetie ... I don't own a single firearm that doesn't have a reason ...
They are all pretty damn good at what they are intended to do.

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[danielpalos]

We all seem to think our constitutional rights are etched in stone and cannot be violated. In fact they are at the whim of politicians who can justify taking them away with a stroke of the pen. George Carlin had an opinion on that..you think your rights are inviolate. He said if you do just go to Wikipedia and in the search box type in..Japanese-Americans 1942

Capitalists are supposed to be for open market based metrics under any form of Capitalism for rational choice theory purposes.

Why blame only Communists for also failing to bear true witness to their own Constitution?

 

[Baron Von Murderpaws]

It's not the Constitution you should be reading..............

it's all the amendments, riders, revisions, alterations, modifications, and "reforms" they've all done to it.

 

[Pellinore]

We all seem to think our constitutional rights are etched in stone and cannot be violated. In fact they are at the whim of politicians who can justify taking them away with a stroke of the pen. George Carlin had an opinion on that..you think your rights are inviolate. He said if you do just go to Wikipedia and in the search box type in..Japanese-Americans 1942

No. The Constitution only RECOGNIZES them. When the government stops RECOGNIZING your rights they can certainly take them away by FORCE, but those rights are still GOD GIVEN and you still have them.

This is correct, and is the entire basis for the Bill of Rights. If the King or the Pope or some other human give you rights, the Founders said, then they or some other human can take them away. They changed the rules when they founded the country on the idea that those rights are natural and God-given, and can't be taken away by anyone.

 

[Skylar]

We all seem to think our constitutional rights are etched in stone and cannot be violated. In fact they are at the whim of politicians who can justify taking them away with a stroke of the pen. George Carlin had an opinion on that..you think your rights are inviolate. He said if you do just go to Wikipedia and in the search box type in..Japanese-Americans 1942

The logic of unalienable rights is that they are unalienable. They wouldn't need to be 'given' by a constitution. Which is why they were cited by the founders before there was a constitution.

 

[Gabe Lackmann]

The courts are corrupt, and compromised. You have no rights. They can, have, and will take everything away from you. Not one Amendment in those first ten has not been widdled down to nothing.
You have no rights. You are a slave.