Does Ted Cruz have Dual Citizenship?

[Mertex]

Unlike you and majority of Republicans, who just post the pap they hear on Faux News?


I guess the courts will have to figure that out....but a 1974 voter register lists her as a voter in Canada, so she definitely must have Canadian citizenship.



That's what you are doing. We're supposed to take your word......Faux News babble? Learn to use google.....it might help you not be so uniformed.

I guess you missed this post.

However, Diane Benson, a spokeswoman for Elections Canada, tells Newsweek that the presence of a person's name on a voter roll does not necessarily mean that he or she was legally allowed to vote. It was not immediately clear if that rule was the same in 1974, when Cruz's mother's name appeared on the list.

It could have been a simple clerical error, she may not have been a citizen of Canada at all, NEXT.

The thing is that it hasn't been proven that "Ralphie's" mother didn't have Canadian citizenship.....her husband did....and they owned a business together, so it makes sense that she obtained Canadian citizenship. The article you mention (her name on a voter roll) doesn't prove that she wasn't a citizen, either.

There ya go again, assuming facts NOT in evidence.

I'm not assuming anything......these are questions that have come up and haven't been proven to be untrue....otherwise Ted wouldn't have had to renounce his Canadian citizenship (just recently)...if it wasn't a problem. You're the one that is taking some spokewoman's word that "Rafael's" mother wasn't legally allowed to vote. Where's your proof?

The real question is did she surrender her US citizenship.

The real question is whether or not she was still a citizen at the time Ralphie was born. I'm sure the courts will determine it. Not that it matters, now that Republican/conservative hero Sarah Palin has endorsed Dumb (Trump)....which means that Dumber (Cruz) will probably lose in Iowa.

First of all a question can't be proven true or untrue, it can only be answered. Second the spokeswoman simply said many names appear on voter rolls who may not be eligible to vote, nothing has been proven to date that his mother was ever a Canadian citizen. The question has been raised, so far, no answer. Got it?

Yeah....right now they are all just accusations.....but the matter isn't settled..... it has not been proven beyond a doubt that he's eligible or ineligible, given the circumstances of his birth, but there are a lot of "uninformed" Republicans that are going to wonder if they're voting for someone that may not be eligible and would just be wasting their vote, just like T-Chump suggests.

 

[Jroc]

Cruz citizenship is troubling, especially worrisome is his fathers' ties to Castro.

Yep....the ones that call those on the left "communists" don't seem to have any problem with "Rafael's" father fighting on the side of Castro, a communist....hmmmm.

 

[JakeStarkey]

I don't think it matters. Sarah gave Iowa for Trump to lose; he won't, he will win handily. If Trump can hold off Kasich in NH, and the Tedster finishes third, Cruz is finished.

 

[Jroc]

Mertex has OKTexas by his little balls.

Yes, Cruz is a Washington insider; yes, Cruz is downplaying the facts of the loan; and, yes, he loves himself some Sachs.

If he was an Establishment guy you be kissing his ass fake. Since he's anti-establishment you hate him. and the fact that he, and his wife had to borrow money from their retirement to help them defeat an establishment millionaire is a resume enhancement to me

 

[Jroc]

I don't think it matters. Sarah gave Iowa for Trump to lose; he won't, he will win handily. If Trump can hold off Kasich in NH, and the Tedster finishes third, Cruz is finished.

Sarah Palin's endorsement is irrelevant ...Wont make a bit of difference

 

[JakeStarkey]

Mertex has OKTexas by his little balls.

Yes, Cruz is a Washington insider; yes, Cruz is downplaying the facts of the loan; and, yes, he loves himself some Sachs.

If he was an Establishment guy you be kissing his ass fake. Since he's anti-establishment you hate him. and the fact that he, and his wife had to borrow money from their retirement to help them defeat an establishment millionaire is a resume enhancement to me

And your looniness continues because her neo-con endorsement is critical. The Cruzes are insiders, yes, but it does not matter. Sarah betrayed him, and I think Trump will take Iowa and if he holds off Kasich in NH, Cruz is finished.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Cruz showed real class yesterday publicly.

 

[Jroc]

Cruz citizenship is troubling, especially worrisome is his fathers' ties to Castro.

Yep....the ones that call those on the left "communists" don't seem to have any problem with "Rafael's" father fighting on the side of Castro, a communist....hmmmm.

We need to know the truth about Cruz' family.

From what I've read.......they're not your most honest people. Ted and his wife conveniently "forgot" to mention a big fat loan he got from the bank she works for.....and didn't report it as he is supposed to. Conservatives who complain that Obama is not transparent enough don't seem to mind when ones on the right are downright dishonest.

You gotta loves these brain dead idiots. Hillary Clinton is as corrupt as they come. She may be indicted ,and morons like this person worry about Cruz taking out a loan against his retirement ..you cant make this stuff up

 

[Syriusly]

First of all- I think Cruz is eligible- and his dual citizenship is irrelevant to his eligibility.

But has he ever shown us proof that he has actually officially- and legally renounced his Canadian citizenship as he has claimed?

According to Canada if a person successfully renounces his citizenship they send out a renunciation certificate or confirmation of renunciation.

Has Cruz ever shown anyone one of these?

 

[starfish1950]

His mother was an American citizen, he was born in Canada. Canada like the US has birthright citizenship, so yes he held dual citizenship. Doesn't alter the fact that he was born a US citizen.

 

[Mertex]

Cruz citizenship is troubling, especially worrisome is his fathers' ties to Castro.

Yep....the ones that call those on the left "communists" don't seem to have any problem with "Rafael's" father fighting on the side of Castro, a communist....hmmmm.

If he's trying to compare Fidel Castro to Obama he is stupider than his son, Rafael, Ted. What a bunch of hooey he is spouting........no wonder so many conservatives think he is smart! He forgets that he was siding with a communist and is now trying to gloss over it! And so many gullible conservatives just swallow it right up.

 

[Mertex]

Cruz citizenship is troubling, especially worrisome is his fathers' ties to Castro.

Yep....the ones that call those on the left "communists" don't seem to have any problem with "Rafael's" father fighting on the side of Castro, a communist....hmmmm.

We need to know the truth about Cruz' family.

From what I've read.......they're not your most honest people. Ted and his wife conveniently "forgot" to mention a big fat loan he got from the bank she works for.....and didn't report it as he is supposed to. Conservatives who complain that Obama is not transparent enough don't seem to mind when ones on the right are downright dishonest.

You gotta loves these brain dead idiots. Hillary Clinton is as corrupt as they come.

That's only the right-wing nut jobs that push that myth. If it were true, at least one of the many right-wing created scandals against her would have stuck......so far, they have ZERO, ZILCH, NADA, against her....and she just made them look like a bunch of fools at the last (was it the 10th, committee hearing on Benghazi?) with nothing to show for it.

She may be indicted ,and morons like this person worry about Cruz taking out a loan against his retirement ..you cant make this stuff up

That is the Republican dream.......but that is all it is, a "dream" that so far is going up in smoke.
And we're not worried about Cruz's loan.....it just points out what a sleazy liar he truly is.

 

[Jroc]

Cruz citizenship is troubling, especially worrisome is his fathers' ties to Castro.

Yep....the ones that call those on the left "communists" don't seem to have any problem with "Rafael's" father fighting on the side of Castro, a communist....hmmmm.

If he's trying to compare Fidel Castro to Obama he is stupider than his son, Rafael, Ted. What a bunch of hooey he is spouting........no wonder so many conservatives think he is smart! He forgets that he was siding with a communist and is now trying to gloss over it! And so many gullible conservatives just swallow it right up.

Tyranny has more than one name genius

 

[Jroc]

Cruz citizenship is troubling, especially worrisome is his fathers' ties to Castro.

Yep....the ones that call those on the left "communists" don't seem to have any problem with "Rafael's" father fighting on the side of Castro, a communist....hmmmm.

We need to know the truth about Cruz' family.

From what I've read.......they're not your most honest people. Ted and his wife conveniently "forgot" to mention a big fat loan he got from the bank she works for.....and didn't report it as he is supposed to. Conservatives who complain that Obama is not transparent enough don't seem to mind when ones on the right are downright dishonest.

You gotta loves these brain dead idiots. Hillary Clinton is as corrupt as they come.

That's only the right-wing nut jobs that push that myth. If it were true, at least one of the many right-wing created scandals against her would have stuck......so far, they have ZERO, ZILCH, NADA, against her....and she just made them look like a bunch of fools at the last (was it the 10th, committee hearing on Benghazi?) with nothing to show for it.

She may be indicted ,and morons like this person worry about Cruz taking out a loan against his retirement ..you cant make this stuff up

That is the Republican dream.......but that is all it is, a "dream" that so far is going up in smoke.
And we're not worried about Cruz's loan.....it just points out what a sleazy liar he truly is.

Do you support corruption in government ? Crony deals while the Clintons get filthy rich? You leftist are a joke

 

[JakeStarkey]

Cruz citizenship is troubling, especially worrisome is his fathers' ties to Castro.

Yep....the ones that call those on the left "communists" don't seem to have any problem with "Rafael's" father fighting on the side of Castro, a communist....hmmmm.

If he's trying to compare Fidel Castro to Obama he is stupider than his son, Rafael, Ted. What a bunch of hooey he is spouting........no wonder so many conservatives think he is smart! He forgets that he was siding with a communist and is now trying to gloss over it! And so many gullible conservatives just swallow it right up.

Tyranny has more than one name genius

Yes, it has two words in cultural mccarthyism and its followers, such as you. And if you don't Trump is a crony capitalist, you are a fuckwit.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Funny how you've ignored what I've said on the subject.

What did you say? That there is no discussion? That Ted Cruz is a citizen because he was born one? Cruz wasn't born in the US and there is sufficient doubt that he may not be eligible since he kept his Canadian citizenship until just recently. Someone has filed a suit against him, so I guess we'll soon find out.

Your previous statement:

According to the Constitution there are only two ways to become a citizen, be born one, which Cruz was, or be a naturalized citizen.

In fact, Teddy may be in some more serious trouble, since he didn't reveal that he had Canadian citizenship when he ran for the Senate....which is considered a fraud. Not to mention the fact that he and his wife also didn't disclose a big fat loan they got to fund his campaign, required by the Federal Election Committee. It may not cause him more trouble but it sure exposes Ted Cruz as a fraud and a liar.



In short, Sen. Ted Cruz was a legal citizen of Canada when he ran for and became a U.S. Senator, without ever having disclosed his Canadian citizenship to Texas voters, which under both Texas and U.S. Election law, is an act of fraud. Ted Cruz had committed election fraud by failing to disclose to Texas voters that he was a Canadian citizen in 2012.
By having retained his Canadian citizenship until 2014 means that he “could” have voted in Canada and ran for the Canadian Parliament at the same time he was in the U.S. Senate. This eligibility issue is showing a lack of integrity on the part of Cruz.
Cruz Says 'If Obama Can Do It, So Can I' - Dr. Rich Swier


The Federal Election Committee requires candidates to disclose loans that are used to fund their campaigns, in order to increase transparency and ensure that candidates aren’t getting sweetheart rates from banks. Cruz did not disclose the loans, one of which came from his wife’s employer—Goldman Sachs.
Cruz Didn’t Disclose up to $1 Million in Senate Campaign Loans From Goldman Sachs, Citibank

The suit will be dismissed for lack of standing, just like the ones on your dear leader. Otherwise feel free to keep grasping for those straws, you might get lucky.

The claims against Obama were always bogus........that's why you all resorted to the lie that he was born in Kenya. It's not looking that clear for Teddy, and these aren't "straws".
The fact that Teddy's mother obtained Canadian citizenship may have disqualified her as an American citizen...but keep holding on to your dream....if it gives you warm fuzzies.

And because becoming a Canadian citizen requires an oath of allegiance—and Section 349 of the U.S. Immigration and Nationality Act stipulates that American citizens who swear allegiance to another country may lose their American citizenship—it seems possible that Cruz's mother may have lost her American citizenship. This would mean that Cruz was not a U.S. citizen at the time of his birth and is therefore ineligible to become president.
http://www.newsweek.com/ted-cruz-mother-birth-certificate-us-united-states-citizen-413530

Damn you're good at cutting and pasting,

Unlike you and majority of Republicans, who just post the pap they hear on Faux News?

did she get this supposed citizenship before or after little Teddy was born?

I guess the courts will have to figure that out....but a 1974 voter register lists her as a voter in Canada, so she definitely must have Canadian citizenship.

Why do you post assumptions without the facts?

That's what you are doing. We're supposed to take your word......Faux News babble? Learn to use google.....it might help you not be so uniformed.

Yes, she DEFINITELY must have Canadian citizenship, because you're a ******* expert on Canadian voter rolls, and the head of Election Canada, who says being listed on the rolls doesn't necessarily mean a damned thing, is a driveling idiot.

You don't need to be "not so uninformed". You need to be "not so brainless" before you even START on becoming informed.

 

[Cecilie1200]

What did you say? That there is no discussion? That Ted Cruz is a citizen because he was born one? Cruz wasn't born in the US and there is sufficient doubt that he may not be eligible since he kept his Canadian citizenship until just recently. Someone has filed a suit against him, so I guess we'll soon find out.

Your previous statement:

In fact, Teddy may be in some more serious trouble, since he didn't reveal that he had Canadian citizenship when he ran for the Senate....which is considered a fraud. Not to mention the fact that he and his wife also didn't disclose a big fat loan they got to fund his campaign, required by the Federal Election Committee. It may not cause him more trouble but it sure exposes Ted Cruz as a fraud and a liar.



In short, Sen. Ted Cruz was a legal citizen of Canada when he ran for and became a U.S. Senator, without ever having disclosed his Canadian citizenship to Texas voters, which under both Texas and U.S. Election law, is an act of fraud. Ted Cruz had committed election fraud by failing to disclose to Texas voters that he was a Canadian citizen in 2012.
By having retained his Canadian citizenship until 2014 means that he “could” have voted in Canada and ran for the Canadian Parliament at the same time he was in the U.S. Senate. This eligibility issue is showing a lack of integrity on the part of Cruz.
Cruz Says 'If Obama Can Do It, So Can I' - Dr. Rich Swier


The Federal Election Committee requires candidates to disclose loans that are used to fund their campaigns, in order to increase transparency and ensure that candidates aren’t getting sweetheart rates from banks. Cruz did not disclose the loans, one of which came from his wife’s employer—Goldman Sachs.
Cruz Didn’t Disclose up to $1 Million in Senate Campaign Loans From Goldman Sachs, Citibank

The suit will be dismissed for lack of standing, just like the ones on your dear leader. Otherwise feel free to keep grasping for those straws, you might get lucky.

The claims against Obama were always bogus........that's why you all resorted to the lie that he was born in Kenya. It's not looking that clear for Teddy, and these aren't "straws".
The fact that Teddy's mother obtained Canadian citizenship may have disqualified her as an American citizen...but keep holding on to your dream....if it gives you warm fuzzies.

And because becoming a Canadian citizen requires an oath of allegiance—and Section 349 of the U.S. Immigration and Nationality Act stipulates that American citizens who swear allegiance to another country may lose their American citizenship—it seems possible that Cruz's mother may have lost her American citizenship. This would mean that Cruz was not a U.S. citizen at the time of his birth and is therefore ineligible to become president.
http://www.newsweek.com/ted-cruz-mother-birth-certificate-us-united-states-citizen-413530

Damn you're good at cutting and pasting,

Unlike you and majority of Republicans, who just post the pap they hear on Faux News?

did she get this supposed citizenship before or after little Teddy was born?

I guess the courts will have to figure that out....but a 1974 voter register lists her as a voter in Canada, so she definitely must have Canadian citizenship.

Why do you post assumptions without the facts?

That's what you are doing. We're supposed to take your word......Faux News babble? Learn to use google.....it might help you not be so uniformed.

I guess you missed this post.

However, Diane Benson, a spokeswoman for Elections Canada, tells Newsweek that the presence of a person's name on a voter roll does not necessarily mean that he or she was legally allowed to vote. It was not immediately clear if that rule was the same in 1974, when Cruz's mother's name appeared on the list.

It could have been a simple clerical error, she may not have been a citizen of Canada at all, NEXT.

I have no clue how voter rolls in Canada are compiled, or were at that time. Apparently, it doesn't - or didn't - actually require the person to do anything, or even be aware of it.

 

[jillian]

I've heard that this was true on another website. I don't know how accurate it is but his mother was canadian and he had, at one time, canadian as well as American citizenship. Is this true?

he had dual citizenship.

he gave up his canadian citizenship when he decided to run for president.

 

[Cecilie1200]

It has been pointed out over and over again that he has given up his Canadian citizenship, though very recently (2013?) and with an eye toward running for US President.

Actually it wasn't until 2014 that he gave us his Canadian citizenship. Claims he didn't know.....for being a Harvard law graduate, he must be pretty dense if he didn't know.

Because Harvard Law teaches a lot of courses on CANADIAN citizenship law, does it? Please show me those listings in their course catalog, lackwit.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Constitutional Cruz Control

From what I see in your link, the author is making assumptions. That's the problem with lawyers and regressives, they try to split hairs and play semantics games when plain language would better serve the situation.

Funny how Republicans made such an issue over Obama's eligibility (and Obama was born in the United States - even is his mother had been from Mars, the fact he was born in the US settled the matter) and now they are glossing over the glaring fact that Cruz wasn't even born in the United States. I'm sure that enough interest in the truth will be generated to cause Ted Cruz plenty of angst.......Karma is a *****.

Funny how leftists 1) think all situations are exactly the same, and 2) think parroting people's criticisms back blankly, regardless of appropriateness, is the definition of "karma".

Where's your proof that the left think all situations are exactly the same? Nobody on the left has equated Obama's situation with Cruz's? Obama was born in the US....there was no question about his citizenship except to the dumb and uninformed Republicans. The "karma" is about how the very issue that Republicans made such a big deal over Obama that even today many "smart" Republicans still think Obama wasn't born in the US, is now coming back to haunt one of their own and causing him angst.

"You said it, and now I'm saying it to YOU! Hahahahahaha!"

Saying what? You really don't make much sense.

Makes me glad I'm too smart to be leftist.

Keep thinking that......while you vote against your own interest. Republicans don't want women to make the same amount of money as men for the same job.....and you're okay with that....that ought to give you a glimpse on how "smart" you really are.

The proof is in the post I responded to, shitforbrains.

Your inability to understand English is your problem, not mine.

All things considered, I'm not much interested in someone as "brilliant" as you trying to define either my beliefs or my "best interests" for me. You don't appear able to define words, let alone suss out meaning when they're strung together into sentences.